Taylor hanging out with MAGA draws criticism

[SimonBaetens 8,378]

is anyone surprised lol

[River 115,455]

There is a MAGA owned bar and then there is a MAGA cult member owned bar.

The bar concept is nazism, fascism, homophobia and racism and it’s in your face, it’s not a regular bar lol they are there to preach these things lol

[nATAH 48,125]

5 hours ago, faysalaaa said:

I would! everything we consume is owned by the worst people in the world. Why would I go out of my way to not end up in a MAGA bar?

well it's good you have the privilege to feel welcome at a right wing bar, not everybody here has that

[faysalaaa 4,414]

1 minute ago, nATAH said:

well it's good you have the privilege to feel welcome at a right wing bar, not everybody here has that

I said a bar owned by MAGA, not a bar with a MAGA theme

[Guillaume Hamon 6,448]

Wasn't she rumored to be dating ( she at least was hanging out with ) a singer making N*zi salutes on stage right during his "thank you Kanye very much" lyric right after Kanye's public anti-jew rants?

If even that led to her making the biggest tour of all time afterwards... It's not giving money to MAGA bars that will bother the GP. It'll rather boost her career if anything...  

She always do the maths and knows what she's doing. She's sending contradictory messages to get all publics and sadly it works.

[Guillaume Hamon 6,448]

6 hours ago, faysalaaa said:

So people arent allowed to drink at a bar owned by a MAGA? 

6 hours ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

I don’t even fw her and I think people caring are about this are doing too much lol

It's beyond that, the guy's pushing for terrible ideologies so giving him your money and buzz as the biggest popstar on earth is weird if you pretend to fight these ideologies like Taylor often does.

4 hours ago, OliviaRodrigoStan said:

I disagree with the idea that if you are in proximity with anyone who voted differwnt from you, then you automatically share their ideology by osmosis . Like, I'm sorry but how on earth does that make any sense? . 

It's a very chronically online take, and it's really stupid, specially when the person who's political stance is being speculated upon, already made their political leaning clear . She already campaigned against Donald Trump, funded a raped woman's legal feeds, and made a pro LGBT music video, you may like Taylor Swift or not, that's valid, but her political allignment is not a secret, she is progressive in her views . 

Do you guys legitimately believe that she has to post everyday about it, otherwise it expires and she becomes alt-right? . I think a lot of people in stan world, want to see Taylor Swift as this poster girl for conservatives because she's a blonde, blue-eyed white girl, and will just force whatever ridiculous interpretation of her actions to fit that narrative . 

Y'all want her really bad to be alt-right but she's not, get over it . Calling her "maga", because her boyfriend's friends are conservative, is stupid, I'm sorry 💀. 

And these type of absurd overreactions are what make "the left" seem repelent for so many people, and make it easier for people like Donald Trump, Bolsonaro or Milei win the elections . Do better. 

I wouldn't call her MAGA over it but she's helping its ideology to spread here while saying she's opposed to it as you said...

Why would one go bring publicity to a terrible racist while posing as pro equality? She's the most famous woman ever so there's no way she doesn't check where/ with whom she shows herself and here she was fine with promoting this dude's mess.

[Taylucifer 5,123]

she was there to support Travis, get his ass instead

[llemesm 1,498]

imagine gaga doing this. Exactly. 

[TheARTPOPball 403]

I’m getting really bored of the rhetoric that its our job to control and police celebrities or literally any other ppl. Shes allowed to do what she wants and shouldn't have to explain her personal relationships and endeavors to strangers on the internet, while they are treating this like a witch hunt. She is a known democrat and was done a lot of good things for the world.
 

So what exactly are yall actually accusing her of? Being in the same room as someone you don’t approve of? Worry about yourself.
 

 

[OliviaRodrigoStan 6,565]

1 hour ago, Guillaume Hamon said:

I wouldn't call her MAGA over it but she's helping its ideology to spread here 

How? nobody on planet earth is changing their minds on that guy, or Trump, based on Taylor Swift being close to him on a picture. People who dislike Trump will continue disliking Trump after seeing the photo . 

This imaginary scenario where people see Taylor Swift next to a conservative guy, and automatically change their political views and go alt-right, is unexistent. The photo is there already, nobody on this side is turning conservative because of it, his ideology is not "spreading" through her, she's getting dragged by chronically online people and that's it, that's the only outcome of the situation . 

[OMF 3,431]

So I’m confused, did she just happen to go into a bar who just happened to be run by MAGAs or did she intentionally go there to hang out with them knowing who they are - and if it’s the latter wtf would she do that, it’s not exactly “on brand”

[Bronco 10,363]

Honestly I don't think she's MAGA, and I think folks trying to pretend otherwise are just not helping themselves or the current political climate. 

The real issue here which fully explains her behaviour is that she's a multi-millionaire straight (gaylors shut up) white woman. 

She posesses a level of priviledge that removes her from so many layers of society. These people will never pose a threat to her, because her wealth makes her more powerful than them. Where as many of us would avoid associating with these people because their social &/or economic views would do us active unavoidable harms - for her there is no such threat. It's a purely philosophical opposition. The MAGA economy benefits the wealthy like her, and none of their social policies are a threat to her either due to her whiteness or ability to avoid consequences through wealth. 

And she's not the only celebrity - if Trump et al. ran on the same economic platform with none of the anti-LGBT/immigrant/abortion rhetoric then 90% of the Harris endorsing celebrities wouldn't have said a ****ing word.  Gaga included.

[GagaGame 3,613]

8 hours ago, faysalaaa said:

I would! everything we consume is owned by the worst people in the world. Why would I go out of my way to not end up in a MAGA bar?

You're such a red flag 

[Defmix100 6,341]

2 hours ago, faysalaaa said:

I said a bar owned by MAGA, not a bar with a MAGA theme

I think this might be where there's some confusion perhaps? I thought people here were just talking about a bar/business owned by someone who voted for Trump.

And if close to 80 million people voted for him then that will include a bunch of business owners, but unless they have Trump/MAGA things on display then most customers aren't going to know who the business owner voted for and I don't think many people go around asking the owner beforehand to decide if they will purchase from them or not

[faysalaaa 4,414]

11 minutes ago, Defmix100 said:

I think this might be where there's some confusion perhaps? I thought people here were just talking about a bar/business owned by someone who voted for Trump.

And if close to 80 million people voted for him then that will include a bunch of business owners, but unless they have Trump/MAGA things on display then most customers aren't going to know who the business owner voted for and I don't think many people go around asking the owner beforehand to decide if they will purchase from them or not

Yes exactly! And I think I have a bad habit of talking about the subject in general, to see how it relates to us, but people want to make it only about Taylor.

Edited Thursday at 09:24 AM by faysalaaa