USA and Iran Conflict

[Lord Mayhem 3,449]

1 hour ago, SharkmanthaC said:

Trump is speaking in about 30 minutes. 

That was probably the shortest speech he ever gave and him threatening further military action against Iran just adds fuel to the fire...We all know Iran is NOT gonna just sit there and NOT retaliate so expect this as confirmation we are in a war now with Iran if it wasn't already obvious 

Im sure Iran is LIVID and already planning how to retaliate locally and on the global landscape making calls to allies for assistance...especially China and Russia which is...VERY bad

[RAMROD 117,252]

I am just afraid some landmark buildings or huge concerts here gonna get B*ombed again. Fck this orange tool, man!

[LadyxGaGa 3,222]

this is so genuinely scary and concerning i can’t believe this is just year 1 of this baboon 

[GregJA 5,548]

8 minutes ago, Shadow said:

Taking military action without authorization from Congress though?

 

7 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said:

Deciding to bomb another country without Congressional authorization is the argument, actually.  

That's for declaration of war, which he did not do.

 

Also the president has 90 days allowed for troops to engage in war before congress is required. (Congress obviously gets asked anytime a war starts as they would likely expect it to last longer than 90 days)

 

but the bottom line is the president can bomb without approval - mainly for strategic reasons- going through congress would alert your targets - nullifying the reason to do it in the first place.

 

so again not impeachable 

[Lord Mayhem 3,449]

3 minutes ago, RAMROD said:

I am just afraid some landmark buildings or huge concerts here gonna get B*ombed again. Fck this orange tool, man!

Oh for sure. Please be clear that the terrorism threat level went full blown RED in this country from this point forward because radical Muslims will look at this as an attack on Islam and start attacking innocent Americans all across this country.

These are such dark times and its all because of the orders of 1 man...INCREDIBLE

[Flareon Voyager 379]

I mean, hasn’t the US been doing this for decades now? 

[StarstruckIllusion 53,579]

12 minutes ago, GregJA said:

 

That's for declaration of war, which he did not do.

 

Also the president has 90 days allowed for troops to engage in war before congress is required. (Congress obviously gets asked anytime a war starts as they would likely expect it to last longer than 90 days)

 

but the bottom line is the president can bomb without approval - mainly for strategic reasons- going through congress would alert your targets - nullifying the reason to do it in the first place.

 

so again not impeachable 

Well, we’re not gonna wait around and play semantic games with the Republicans.

They could start another Iraq and just never call it a war and trillions would vanish over repeated “special military operations.”

This standard of “war only starts once it’s admitted” but “we can bomb whatever” is wild.

Mind you, if China did this exact thing to America they’d def call it an act of war so

[alsemanche 97,820]

28 minutes ago, GregJA said:

Bombing the nuclear facilities of a terrorist regime that refused to make a deal in 60 days is not grounds for impeachment. 

Lol it took y'all less than a day to parrot bullshit propaganda to manufacture consent for yet another american war be ever so fucking serious

[Bebe 17,289]

The Iranian Government is worried about self preservation/regime survival first and foremost. What's less clear is the goals of the US... Do we just care about nuclear enrichment? If so:

Best case scenario is that Iran conceeds on retaining any enrichment capabilities (something they previously conceeded through diplomacy until Trump tore it up in his last term).

Worst case they target oil facilities in the region and start blockading the Straits of Hormuz, increasing prices of oil significantly.

BUT Israel has been screaming about regime change in Iran... If the US turns course and starts demanding that as the terms of surrender?? We could be looking at a repeat of the wars of Iraq and Afghanistan on steroids. Iran is twice the size of Afghanistan and three times the size of Iraq. We will have new ISIS-esq extremist groups popping up decades from now if that is the road the US takes.

 

 

[HelloHangoverz 17,452]

I wonder how it feels to be in a position of power like that and realize you have enemies coming after you. Personally.

[alsemanche 97,820]

Whatever happens, America and its allies (the Zionist occupation obviously, but other allies as well) are to blame here, just like America is to blame for any other war it has waged on foreign land. Learn something from your past and from the bullshit they fed you for years and years instead of playing dumb once again.

[SharkmanthaC 115,066]

It’s like he expects Iran to be like, yeah you’re right, we will behave now. Zero chance of that happening. This just made things worse rather than better. I just cannot understand the rationale outside of Trump thinking this makes him look more powerful.

[StarstruckIllusion 53,579]

1 minute ago, SharkmanthaC said:

It’s like he expects Iran to be like, yeah you’re right, we will behave now. Zero chance of that happening. This just made things worse rather than better. I just cannot understand the rationale outside of Trump thinking this makes him look more powerful.

It’s one thing to love your country over every other, but to not fathom others feel the same about theirs? 

Like ofc Iran would have the pride to not let that **** stand.

Theyre soo idiotic

[Morphine Prince 109,709]

17 minutes ago, GregJA said:

 

That's for declaration of war, which he did not do.

 

Also the president has 90 days allowed for troops to engage in war before congress is required. (Congress obviously gets asked anytime a war starts as they would likely expect it to last longer than 90 days)

 

but the bottom line is the president can bomb without approval - mainly for strategic reasons- going through congress would alert your targets - nullifying the reason to do it in the first place.

 

so again not impeachable 

The US hasn't formally declared war since 1941.

Things like the Iraq War, were not formally wars, they were Authorizations for Use of Military Force, but were approved by Congress.

I don't think Trump can be impeached for this, but there's still legal debate over a US president using military force this way and that's why it's being discussed.

 

[Morphine Prince 109,709]

17 minutes ago, alsemanche said:

Whatever happens, America and its allies (the Zionist occupation obviously, but other allies as well) are to blame here, just like America is to blame for any other war it has waged on foreign land. Learn something from your past and from the bullshit they fed you for years and years instead of playing dumb once again.

A lot of Americans have goldfish brains. The Iraq War was only 20 years ago and we now know how much BS was involved in starting that and maintaining it. 

We are back at square one and tons of people are going to just go along with more BS until the US is in another conflict.