faysalaaa 4,146 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 (edited) It sounds unnecessarily obnoxious, I dont hate the song, but it is a bit annoying. ARTPOP whole album sounds obnoxious, but in a good way lol Edited April 17 by faysalaaa 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayi 2,624 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 (edited) 3 hours ago, zevthepaparazzo said: Hear me out y'all I don't know why but I really can't see Garden of Eden in any late 2000s pop album, like I get how you guys say it sounds like Britney or whatever but, it just feels so weirdly satire, like she's almost mocking the sound of the time, and with that outro it just seems... corrupted in a way, like it was a Britney or Nelly Furtado song but just darkened gagafied and ized. I hear this weird, almost aggressive vibe that I dont think was that popular back then. It just has this je ne sais quoi, y'know what I mean? It's still a certified banger tho theres no denying that Yep you're right The vocals : They sound inspired by bubbly and sexy 2000s type of singing in pop music like Britney or Nelly Furtado songs... But with a lot of theatrality, storytelling and rawness. It's like Paparazzi but a way more raw. And there's litteraly a Private Audition interpolation. I like the comparison Fantano used to describe this song "cheerleader" anthem like "Hollaback girls" or "Mickey". The vocal choir echoes in the background are something that Cirkut like to incorporate in his pop songs like in his Ava Max produced songs such as "Kings and Queens" but it is also reminiscent of Nelly Furtado's prods by Timbaland. And the reverberations are something that that both Cirkut and Gesaffelstein (lost in fire ft The Weeknd) use a lot in their productions. There's some distortions that are naturually done by Gaga's voice but also some distortions added by the producers. I can hear some small similarities with BRAT because both Cirkut and Gesaffelstein worked on it. Honestly there's a lot of textures in the vocals and Chris Liepe (a vocal coach) analyzed it and it's very interesting. Spoiler The instrumental production : The intrumental also sounds very 2000s coded with the pop/rnb sounds of Timbaland, especially the the 0:54 repetitive sounds of guitars strings. But there's also some rock sounds Rock sounds with the heavy guitar and drums sounds that are played by Andrew Watt at 1:09. At 0:00, 1:25, 2:36 and 3:35 you can hear the synths are aggressive, obsessional and mysterious, it's Gesaffelstein signature sonorities, I think you can hear some similarities with his recent works on GAMMA and b2b. At 0:42, 1:50 it's Cirkut's bubbly, harmonious pop sounds, again I think there's resemblances to some of his Ava Max production such as Sweet but Psycho. It's masterfully executed cause it follows the storytelling brought by the lyrics and Gaga's singing. It's one of my fav Gaga song. There's rawness, edginess and maturity. It's not a 2000s pop song, it's a song inspired by the 2000s produced with modern technologies, 2020s sonorities elements and the artists who worked on it used their respective styles on it. Edited April 17 by Kayi I'm here to take a break from university homeworks :/ 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyM 1,256 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 A song I keep going back to, it just gives me Britney vibes, wish she collabed with her on it!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
REALITY 76,029 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 2 hours ago, chathonnete said: Yes I don't understand how she could write these lyrics in a serious way in 2025 Maybe because it wasn't meant to be super serious. The song feels very in line with her work on The Fame, which had a ton of fun and campy lyrics. 🦠🧙♀️🥀📸🎉👻🕺🧟💊💖☎️🔪👤🐺🌱🌎 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChvVolk 2,266 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 (edited) 3 hours ago, Stefanotta said: Lyrics are really dissappointing in a way, and she could’ve exlpored more the “Eden/Biblical reference theme” lyrics, I just can’t with this club song lyrical theme if you know what I mean Yesss I write a lot of biblical songs for my noise-pop band. I read the Bible to get ideas and adapt them into things in my life. If she wanted to be playful and sexual at the same, I think she could've been more creative For example, the song is about temptation so I think she could've had 3 different lines in the chorus and those A.I. lyrics had a clever line about the soul which was so good "I could be your girlfriend for the weekend But you gotta sell your soul to keep me My excuse to make a bad decision Bodies getting FURTHER from the light I've been feeling this familiar feeling Like I've known you my whole life Ill take you to the garden of Eden Posion apple, take a bite" Then for the 2nd time, I would change the poison apple line to "Hear that serpents' deep inside" The 3rd time I would've done "Its mayhem in paradise" or "a chaotic paradise" I also think she could've mentioned Cherubim who are angels that protect the Garden of Eden So on the final "come hit the lights" it would've been cool to have said "DJ Cherubim hit the lights" it plays with the biblical reference of the protector of Eden being the DJ of this party in Eden Anyway, thank you for getting through my tedtalk lol Edited April 17 by ChvVolk 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Oak 7,593 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 4 hours ago, zevthepaparazzo said: it just feels so weirdly satire, like she's almost mocking the sound of the time, Didn't she say something like that during the interview with Zane Lowe? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chathonnete 693 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 3 hours ago, Anveeroy said: Ah, a woman can not have fun or be silly in her late 30s Gurl that's not what I'm saying I'm super feminist It's just shitty lyrics 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazilwood 4,184 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 (edited) It doesn't exactly fit that era because the rhythm is very 2000s, the math of the drums make a hip hop-y groove BUT with a rock outfit with the synths and guitars, and even the timbre of the drums, so it doesn't exactly translate as hip hop or R&B. This unexpected fusion makes it a little weird or different and not a pastiche of a gente/style. Edited April 17 by Brazilwood Paubrasilia echinata 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayi 2,624 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 (edited) Yep there's Biblical, Gnostic and Kabbalistics refs. I tried to modify some lines of interpretations on Genius but I don't have enough iQ on it to modify interpretations... Based on my notepad notes : Litteraly, it's a party in a club (maybe the club of the Garden of Eden) and there's a seduction game. The girl tempts the guy to have a s*xual connexion rather than a real romantic connexion. She seduces him, they do drugs. But it can also be interpretated as us being hypnotized by her music in a party and acting messy lol... "Ah-ah-ah-ah, oh-oh-oh-oh" It's lustful and hypnotizing. In this song Gaga's ego takes control and lead her to make mistakes. But she also seduce her victim/listener to lead them to do and accept their mistakes (it's her boyfriend metaphorically). There's a lot of onomatopoeias repeated several times and the song in itself is repetitive to sound hypnotic. "Go get your friends and meet me on the floor" Floor is foretaste of the fall. The friends might be the characters of the episode of The Fall (God and the snake). It's lustful. "You’re out of candy, I can get you mo-o-ore" It's about drugs, it's hypnotizing. Drugs can be used to be an altered mental state, so this can be a way to do rituals. "I’m fallin’ over in my nine-inch heels" Ref to the 9 circles of Hell that exist in some kabbalistic traditions or to Dante's Inferno part in his Divine Comedy. "(So hit the lights) Come on and hit me, come on" The lights in Bible are the knowledge, it's something that is associated to God. "Dj hit the lights" It might be Satan/Lucifer/the snake cause the lyrics are globally Luciferian. "I could be your girlfriend for the weekend" This is obviously about ephemerality of their relationship cause they're going to fall from the Garden of Eden. It's the idea of making a mistake and knowing it's a mistake that is going to have consequences. And it's very lustful and hedonistic, so it's sinful. "My excuse to make a bad decision Bodies gettin' close under the lights" You know, the whole Mayhem album is haunted by the idea of a duality between her ego and the part of lucidity that still remains in her (a sort of Gaga vs Stefani). She knows she's doing mistakes but she simply does it bc of her ego. Bodies and the materialism are very far from the lights in Gnosis and Kabbalism. "(Oh) I’ve been feelin’ this familiar feeling Like I’ve known you my whole life" This line evokes a mystical sense of déjà vu, as if the narrator had already lived this moment before. The feeling of familiarity may relate to the concept of the Aleph in Kabbalah: the point of ultimate knowledge where all times (past, present, future) and all experiences coexist. Gaga seems to invite her lover/listener to transgress, to step outside of ordinary perception, in order to reach this higher light or truth. Through the Aleph-like revelation, she feels as though she has always known both this Fall and this person, as if this forbidden connection is part of some ancient, eternal truth. But it's an illusion. So more concretly, this line reflects the idea that mistakes are a natural part of the human experience. Gaga refuses to regret her transgressions, normalizing them as an inherent part of life. "(Oh) Take you to the Garden of Eden Poison apple, take a bite (Oh)" It's about recreating the scene of The Fall from the Bible. "You’re turnin’ green from the adrenaline" The victim is drugged and hypnotized, he (but it's about also the listener) "This chick’s a machine, but her friend is way more fun But you can’t hear her with the music on So you say “yes” and then the party’s o-on" The “chick” being a machine might be a metaphor for God being too rigid or oppressive. The word machine stands in contrast with the idea of spiritual liberation or enlightenment, often referred to as “the lights” or higher knowledge. “Her friend” could be interpreted as Lucifer/Satan. This line suggests that transgression can be a path to freedom or awakening. The music distracts the boyfriend, and music has historically been associated with Lucifer and decadence, especially in symbolic or esoteric interpretations. This line implies that making mistakes or breaking the rules leads to knowledge. It resonates with Luciferian philosophy, where the Fall is not seen as a punishment, but as a necessary step toward enlightenment. The myth of the Fall is also present in gnosticism and in some kabbalistic traditions, where descent into error is seen as a stage in the journey back to divine knowledge. "Yeah" So she don't regret her mistakes at all, but she understand herself better now. In Gnosis and Kabbalism it's a way to gain lucidity. It's not about moral. It's a passage to work on herself. She questions herself all along the album, there's a duality between her ego and her lucidity. Wtf I wrote this whole thing for a pop song... I think that the whole album is esoterical so at least it's better than Christian saying "It's Satanic 🤓📖👈". Don't show this to your conservative, religious aunt guys Edited April 17 by Kayi I'm here to take a break from university homeworks :/ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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