I say this with love…

[JustJames 885]

57 minutes ago, DISZKO said:

No, I’m not saying the Chart section should be erased. I just think the hyper-focus on sales and streaming numbers can sometimes take away from simply enjoying the music. Of course, following charts can be fun, but when it turns into stress and constant comparison, it starts to feel less about the music itself and more about external validation. Just my perspective!

This is putting it nicely. I came here for Charts discussions originally and I’m avoiding those threads as much as possible because - instead of what should be overwhelmingly celebratory discussion - it’s the same people using stats, comparisons, etc. to arbitrarily deflate Gaga’s successes.

Like, it’s fun to play “little manager” in the off season, discuss what could’ve been done better, vent about promo, whatever… but what’s the point of those games if, when we’re literally in the middle of album release week surrounded by favorable metrics, people are actively seeking the few unfavorable ones or twisting others to convince us she’s flopping?

They aren’t looking to metrics for validation - or, MAYHEM’s metacritic score or its predicted debut atop the BB200 with over $200k in sales would be providing that. They’re abusing #s to make their opinions look “objective,” when there’s nothing objective about calling pop stars 10 years younger her “contemporaries,” as 1 example.

And these people are MIA in threads discussing the music, artistry, or anything else EXCEPT to remind us how underwhelmgly she’s doing.

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[OliviaRodrigoStan 4,869]

22 minutes ago, River said:

but did grass even give it's consent to be touched? think about it

This TBH. I identify as grass, and I find this thread to be highly problematic, like, excuse me?  I would very much like to be excluded from this narrative 

[DISZKO 773]

27 minutes ago, River said:

the problem with people who says to others to touch some grass is that they themselves also needs to touch some grass.

but did grass even give it's consent to be touched? think about it

I think its just funny in general that I brought up 3 points that I have noticed in the community and most peoples comments have vaguely to do anything with it because they read what they wanna read instead of actually responding to what I am saying. Therefore yes, people do need to touch grass.

[River 109,922]

20 minutes ago, DISZKO said:

I think its just funny in general that I brought up 3 points that I have noticed in the community and most peoples comments have vaguely to do anything with it because they read what they wanna read instead of actually responding to what I am saying. Therefore yes, people do need to touch grass.

yeah but like you spent like what 5 minutes to write this post and then 1 hour on it to refresh and reply to others.. so like take your own advice and touch some grass as well.

it's a pop forum and people talk about pop things, just like a politics forum, people talk about politics.. so to tell them to touch some grass because they are in the place where they can talk about a subject they like and passionate about, it's kinda rude

[artd0me 647]

I am in general always surprised how people can get intense about discussions on an internet forum (let alone a comment section of social media posts). 
 

[TheARTPOPball 265]

I see both sides

I do see people doing cringey things, and definitely find it cringey. I do wish people would stop being harsh and mean about their gaga opinions (or any artist in general) calling them names or flops. Its unnecessary. I do find their comments about Michael invasive

however, internet is diverse and full of different type of thinkers. Not everyone has social awareness or operates their brains in the same way. There is a lot of neurodivergence on forums like this, naturally. I feel like trying to police what others say or hold them accountable in some type of way is futile and certainly a waste of time. And it gives off minor control freak vibes. I have found the best way to silence these people is to disengage completely. They WANT you to debate with them. Next time someone says “FLOPmatica”, if we all keeps scrolling and pay no mind to it, it stops there and doesn't escalate into an argument/debate where they can say more offensive things. Gaga does not need us to defend her on a fan forum site. I feel like the only time we should be interacting with ppl like that, is if they are spreading misinformation about gaga, or someone else. In that case, they can be corrected. 
 

And the charts are the pop star equivalent, of sports fans cheering on their teams and wanting to be on top. Am i upset when gaga is not #1? Nah bc I'm a ride or die fan. But of course i love to see her getting the attention and recognition she deserves. Its nice to watch her get #1 debuts and trend globally.