The "Abracadabra spell" explained (NOT satanic)

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I watched the full video. 

 

to say I'm a skeptic on these types of topics is a big understatement, with that said, it was an enjoyable video, he goes through potential meanings of the video and explains his thought process and lists his "sources" and gives context, and he's NOT biased against gaga, he's very fair from my laymen pov.

 

it's honestly a bit fascinating vid and why he kinda  

[faysalaaa 3,662]

3 minutes ago, Axl Jax said:

Aleister Crowley was very misunderstood and said things to be shocking, you do realise in the era he lived in if you wasn't a christian you were basically evil. She isn't referencing Crowley specifically, but some of his teachings like Thelema which I kinda follow, match up with things in the video. I said about the Lust card because if you watch the guy in the video describe the "Lady in Red" and what she represents (the bible is very misunderstood and highly metaphorical btw) it is the same woman riding the beast on the Lust tarot card.

People hear the word "Occult" and automatically think of evil spells and hexes and summoning demons. Lets pretend demons are confirmed real for a moment, I think back to when I used to get sleep paralysis as a kid, I would send them love and healing and the demons at my bed would go, because I somehow knew they needed positivity (think of the + and - on a magnet for example. It's just two polarized forces, as gaga even alludes to in the first part of the born this way video). People have things so twisted and it's all down to due religion.

I think Occultists center Abrahamic religion in everything they do, and all their morals and values comes from being an opposition reactionary to Abrahamic religion. They never preach their morals and values, and when they do, they do it in a demonic dark way to rebel against Abrahamic religions. Its too focused on Abrahamic religions even though they are all the same thing.

And it is true that Occultists believe in casting spells and doing magic against peoples consent, I see them talk about it all the time like its nothing, which is insane to me.

[Axl Jax 563]

Just now, faysalaaa said:

And it is true that Occultists believe in casting spells and doing magic against peoples consent, I see them talk about it all the time like its nothing, which is insane to me.

Yes of course some of them will do. I'm an occultist and would never do that. Just like any group, religion, country etc, there will be good people and bad people. Funnily enough that goes back to the polarising forces between dark and light theme of Abracadabra, especially in the video.

[Axl Jax 563]

3 minutes ago, faysalaaa said:

I think Occultists center Abrahamic religion in everything they do, and all their morals and values comes from being an opposition reactionary to Abrahamic religion. They never preach their morals and values, and when they do, they do it in a demonic dark way to rebel against Abrahamic religions. Its too focused on Abrahamic religions even though they are all the same thing.

And it is true that Occultists believe in casting spells and doing magic against peoples consent, I see them talk about it all the time like its nothing, which is insane to me.

Occult just means hidden knowledge btw. There's no specific "group" of occultists that contains all of us.

[moonsago 6,913]

Idk, I have no doubt that Gaga is into the occult but I also feel like people are putting too much weight in that sense on this song. I also saw the video and I don’t think he got everything right though even from what Gaga said about the characters. She literally says in the behind video that Mistress Mayhem represents an inner struggle, a demon that she is trying to face. Not at all this embrace that this guy is implying of the lady in red. Even in the video, at the end after ‘Virgin Gaga’ finishes dancing, she turns to face Mistress Mayhem who looks at the camera absolutely defeated and bows her head in disappointment with Virgin Gaga looking up victorious at us in the final shot.
 

‘Paris & I came up with this idea of the battle of the night, in this club, the club of my soul would be dance or die, this tension between the dark side that makes all the bad decisions and the light side that is findind the positive & moving on’. Gaga said from the beginning that this album was a return to the kind of music she used to make, the kind she was afraid to make for a while. To me Mistress Mayhem is old Gaga, the one that at one point got so out of control that it nearly killed her. She is trying to face her and defeat her to be reborn. This goes against the idea of embracing the so called ‘***** of Babylon’ or leaning into her energy at all. To me it sounds like maybe Gaga did that at one point and is now trying to regain control of whatever she unleashed then. I’m sorry but his analysis just goes against what Gaga herself said, and I also don’t think the chorus is a real spell.
 

But the song is BEAUTIFULLY written, almost in a storytelling kind of way. The way she sets the scene, describes characters and has sections that lead into one another like the pre-chorus being ‘it’s time to cast your spell on the night’ with the chorus being said spell in a different language to then also translate it at the end ‘in her tongue she said love or death tonight’, or the bridge where she invokes the phantom of the dancefloor to come to her with a melody to then be almost ‘possessed’ by her and sing the melody, the ohhh part…. just SPECTACULAR songwritting on a dance pop song, like it doesn’t get more intelligent than this. Some of her best EVER! But yes, to me it’s a fantastical story meant to describe a real inner struggle she faced, not an actual occult ritual with spells being cast. Idk… 

Edited 13 hours ago by moonsago

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8 hours ago, Axl Jax said:

Yes but Gagas abracadabra is specifically about alchemy. As I said, you're not going to agree so there's no point trying to describe red to a blind man or sound to a deaf man. It is more of an incantation than a spell but it is still a spell, but the likes of Hollywood movies have got thinking a spell must mean a witch or wizard with a magic wand putting spells on people. She's been using forms of chaos magick and the law of attraction since the beginning of her career. Remember how she used to say "I've always been famous"? Because when you're manifesting, you do it in present tense (or past in this case) as if you already have it. This is a big principle in chaos magick, and why praying doesnt work, because you're essentially asking/begging yourself (god/consciousness) for something. We are moving out of that Piscean age if conformity and religion now into Aquarius where we come together. I also know that Gaga is very knowledgeable when it comes to the Law of One, I won't go into it here cos there's too much to say about it butnwe are moving from third density into fourth density, where we learn to love each other because we all one. It's a fascinating system and the 7 densities are linked to the colour spectrum and also what some cultures call chakras. (1st density consciousness - rocks, materials, minerals etc. 2nd - animals and plants. 3rd - humans. By the end of 2026 this shift will be very clear and more and more people will be talking about it, this year is the crumbling of the old structure (2025 is a vibration 9 year also which is the last number) to make way for the new clean slate in 2026. Theres so much I'd love to go into but as a science nerd i am aware that most of this is still pseudoscience, like many things once were. Gaga is phenomenal and will know this - we already know she believes in meditation and chakras from the pre-Joanne days.

Edit: also Eminem is no where near on the same level and caliber as gaga, thats why. Eminem sampled an old song and made it into a comedy rap track. 

Gaga also references the alchemic process directly in the Sonnet for a knight interlude from the Chromatica Ball, and as we know these themes are formative to the conception of Mayhem, honestly whomever thinks she's not pulling concepts and meaning from occult knowledge is deluding themselves, Altho gaga still considers herself a christian, she very open minded to different ideas and beliefs systems and she incorporates it to her own. She's always been a very spiritually connected person from the beginning of her career, and making things with careless and lukewarm meanings was never her thing, yes it is a spell, she herself said thats how she sees it, and yest it is a big fuss, and we love that it is that way

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4 hours ago, moonsago said:

Idk, I have no doubt that Gaga is into the occult but I also feel like people are putting too much weight in that sense on this song. I also saw the video and I don’t think he got everything right though even from what Gaga said about the characters. She literally says in the behind video that Mistress Mayhem represents an inner struggle, a demon that she is trying to face. Not at all this embrace that this guy is implying of the lady in red. Even in the video, at the end after ‘Virgin Gaga’ finishes dancing, she turns to face Mistress Mayhem who looks at the camera absolutely defeated and bows her head in disappointment with Virgin Gaga looking up victorious at us in the final shot.
 

‘Paris & I came up with this idea of the battle of the night, in this club, the club of my soul would be dance or die, this tension between the dark side that makes all the bad decisions and the light side that is findind the positive & moving on’. Gaga said from the beginning that this album was a return to the kind of music she used to make, the kind she was afraid to make for a while. To me Mistress Mayhem is old Gaga, the one that at one point got so out of control that it nearly killed her. She is trying to face her and defeat her to be reborn. This goes against the idea of embracing the so called ‘***** of Babylon’ or leaning into her energy at all. To me it sounds like maybe Gaga did that at one point and is now trying to regain control of whatever she unleashed then. I’m sorry but his analysis just goes against what Gaga herself said, and I also don’t think the chorus is a real spell.
 

But the song is BEAUTIFULLY written, almost in a storytelling kind of way. The way she sets the scene, describes characters and has sections that lead into one another like the pre-chorus being ‘it’s time to cast your spell on the night’ with the chorus being said spell in a different language to then also translate it at the end ‘in her tongue she said love or death tonight’, or the bridge where she invokes the phantom of the dancefloor to come to her with a melody to then be almost ‘possessed’ by her and sing the melody, the ohhh part…. just SPECTACULAR songwritting on a dance pop song, like it doesn’t get more intelligent than this. Some of her best EVER! But yes, to me it’s a fantastical story meant to describe a real inner struggle she faced, not an actual occult ritual with spells being cast. Idk… 

this is just how you interpret her words, Morgue himself quotes her and what she says doesnt contradict his points, if she was afraid for a long time of leaning into it, it means that now she's leaning into it unafraid, and doesn't see it as a bad thing inherently, it is just a challenge she takes, that "old gaga" theory is just your own takeaway, both versions of her are parts of her that have always lived inside. Gaga also said right before that refering to misstress mayhem in the behind the scenes "i have a strong belief that the parts of you that challenge you, actually make you so much stronger" so in her perspective it is not something entirely bad. If we contrast it to Disease, we always see her running away from her, and being tortured by her, up until the end where the chaos suddenly ends, and then in Abracadabra, she's not running away, she's literally leaning into her, accepting the challenge, it is the unification of both parts that makes her complete, the end of abracadabra is also open to interpretation, "virgin gaga" is not nessesarily triumphant at the end, the last shot of her is looking upward towards Mayhem, seamingly in truoble.

Gaga has always blurred the lines between what is real and what is fantastical, she refered to it as a spell, and if its a spell to her why wouldn't it be real if she uses it to manifest something in herself? i mean this delimitation between Fantasy and reality is something gaga has always been opposed to. Are "real spells" even real? it's not just the caster believing what they're casting what makes them real? if not they are all fastastical only.