StrawberryBlond 14,836 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 20 hours ago, Emily said: Totally agree regarding the UK promo.. I mean, surely she will do promo after mayhem is released? Isn't one of the main parts of her "job" to visit different countries and do interviews and play her music? It doesn't make sense to me to just release a new album and not promote it? Also I feel like she would have done this with chromatica if it wasn't for COVID Also, thanks for somewhat 'backing me' with the UK/Europe thing, that's what I meant really - we've never been treated as part of Europe and our culture isn't necessarily European, so that's what I meant. It's what she needs after so long without a massive hit era in the UK. The last time she had one of those was with ASIB and BTW before that. To see ASIB do so well without promo likely made Interscope believe she didn't need to promote worldwide anymore. Even though the movie was obviously helping the music to sell and selling an album completely on its own merit is different. As much as I would love her to sell effortlessly like Beyonce, Taylor and Adele can, she's just not on that level. She needs to perform to remind the public of why she's so amazing. Say what you like about Katy but it turned out to be a very smart move that she performed at the AFL (Australia's equivalent of the Superbowl) when her album came out and now, despite how much it flopped, the album went to #2 in Australia and she's sold out 13 arenas there, with another 2 just added. Just one big performance can turn your fortunes around. Whenever Gaga performs in the UK, her songs always start improving, so why isn't she being made to do it again when Abra is falling down the top 10 after it started out so well? We're one of the very few countries that got Disease into the top 10. We don't deserve any reward for that? At least she had a French interview today, so that's something at least. And that's no problem. I personally think we're a lot more like Europe than we think (love of football, love of dance music, beloved national foods, liberal attitudes, etc) but I get why many don't feel that way. Maybe if the rest of Europe liked us a bit more, we'd feel differently. I remember there was a media personality who said why we always do badly at Eurovision is because: "We started war with everyone, so nobody likes us." Don't get why they want to bring up our warmongering past when many of their countries did the exact same thing and they don't want to be reminded of and defined by that today. 3 hours ago, Lippoutou said: Always those damn Brits who want to feel special I swear... Also Gibraltar is literally British territory on the European landmass if the rest isn't already sufficient We didn't say we were special. Just that Gaga is highly popular here, so you'd think we'd be due some reward for that. And the UK is one of the world's biggest music market and the biggest in Europe and we produce some of the biggest musical acts in the world, so it makes sense to promote here, we can help set the trends for a lot of the world. France and Germany also need more promo, they're hugely populated, major music markets and Gaga's popular there too. And what do you mean by that last paragraph? No one's arguing about its geographical location. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creyk 17,805 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 Othe big stars like Taylor, Bey, Ariana also did not do European promo for their latest eras so I would not be surprised if Gaga also did not do it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pratz 1,439 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 On 2/23/2025 at 8:10 AM, TAIPEI said: i'm also curious if she'll promote in asia or not, if so its probably japan only. sometimes i really miss her promotional schedules during the fame & born this way era that she did in korea, taiwan, macau, philippines and singaore, not just japan only Don't forget her Promotional schedule in India during BTW. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeshaErotica 1,704 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 (edited) On 2/24/2025 at 11:53 PM, StrawberryBlond said: I personally think we're a lot more like Europe than we think (love of football, love of dance music, beloved national foods, liberal attitudes, etc) but I get why many don't feel that way. Maybe if the rest of Europe liked us a bit more, we'd feel differently. I remember there was a media personality who said why we always do badly at Eurovision is because: "We started war with everyone, so nobody likes us." The UK is bad at the ESC because it is not dependent on it, has no will to win and other countries simply invest more energy in it. The ESC is above all a big stage for small countries that are otherwise hardly represented in the media. These small countries have a lot of motivation because they can become big for one night. But the UK is already world-famous in abundance. Just like Germany and France, which also tend to come last. These countries are also automatically qualified for the final and don't have to try at all - if they were bad, they would be eliminated in the preliminary round, but they always get to the final - and then compete with countries that have already had a real qualifying test. When do you ever hear anything positive from Moldova or Azerbaijan? Never except at the ESC. You hear a lot about the UK, France and Germany in the media even without the ESC. This has nothing to do with the wars, colonialism or Brexit (the UK was bad long before Brexit) and a supposed dislike. Continental Europe likes the UK, but actually only likes London and is indifferent to the rest, but London is enough. And London is probably the DEFAULT city of Europe. It is the strongest, most powerful, best-known city in Europe. Everywhere in continental Europe, children learn about London because they have English lessons, and English lessons make London and England the best-known country in Europe, even though England is not a nation. Paris and Madrid look on jealously. And yes, the English books neglect Scotland, Whales and Northern Ireland. They are completely overshadowed by England. One page is devoted to the rest of the UK, then it's over to the Republic of Ireland and the USA. It is understandable that the peripheral areas of Scotland, NI, Whales, may sometimes feel less European, but at least the south of England and London have the best reasons to feel European. The EU does not define Europe or Being European. The EU does not even define the security architecture of the EU itself, that is done by the USA in consultation with Russia for the EU. Edited March 10 by AyeshaErotica I'm looking gorgeous tonight 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackaroo 1,881 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 (edited) Perfect uk promo would be her doing a pop up acoustic set at Oxford Street’s HMV I think about this a lot on the bus Edited March 10 by Jackaroo Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackaroo 1,881 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 On 2/25/2025 at 8:22 AM, pratz said: Don't forget her Promotional schedule in India during BTW. Girl, that schedule probably was not healthy at all. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eMILY 1,099 Posted March 10 Author Share Posted March 10 With all these recently announced shows, I don't know when she will come here 😭 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,836 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 On 2/25/2025 at 8:22 AM, pratz said: Don't forget her Promotional schedule in India during BTW. I still can't believe she's never done a tour stop in India before. I don't know what all that promo was for just for it to result in nothing. It's wild that she managed to do a date in Dubai, which she had to censor, but not India. On 3/10/2025 at 3:41 AM, AyeshaErotica said: The UK is bad at the ESC because it is not dependent on it, has no will to win and other countries simply invest more energy in it. The ESC is above all a big stage for small countries that are otherwise hardly represented in the media. These small countries have a lot of motivation because they can become big for one night. But the UK is already world-famous in abundance. Just like Germany and France, which also tend to come last. These countries are also automatically qualified for the final and don't have to try at all - if they were bad, they would be eliminated in the preliminary round, but they always get to the final - and then compete with countries that have already had a real qualifying test. When do you ever hear anything positive from Moldova or Azerbaijan? Never except at the ESC. You hear a lot about the UK, France and Germany in the media even without the ESC. This has nothing to do with the wars, colonialism or Brexit (the UK was bad long before Brexit) and a supposed dislike. Continental Europe likes the UK, but actually only likes London and is indifferent to the rest, but London is enough. And London is probably the DEFAULT city of Europe. It is the strongest, most powerful, best-known city in Europe. Everywhere in continental Europe, children learn about London because they have English lessons, and English lessons make London and England the best-known country in Europe, even though England is not a nation. Paris and Madrid look on jealously. And yes, the English books neglect Scotland, Whales and Northern Ireland. They are completely overshadowed by England. One page is devoted to the rest of the UK, then it's over to the Republic of Ireland and the USA. It is understandable that the peripheral areas of Scotland, NI, Whales, may sometimes feel less European, but at least the south of England and London have the best reasons to feel European. The EU does not define Europe or Being European. The EU does not even define the security architecture of the EU itself, that is done by the USA in consultation with Russia for the EU. I agree with what you claim, this has been said for years as well. There's a sense of unfairness in letting some countries automatically qualify just because they pay more donation money to the cause, so they're not as receptive to them. However, this isn't always the case. The UK usually did very well up until the Iraq war and then we were lucky to not to get last every year after that with just 2 exceptions in all these years. It's widely suspected that we got second just 2 years ago because of our great response to Ukrainian refugees (including 12 points from Ukraine itself). Italy is always respected and has always done well ever since returning to the competition some years ago and has even won. Germany hasn't won in a long time but they did win in 2010 and France has done really well in recent years. The UK stands out like a sore thumb as the country that nobody likes anymore. It's well-noted that whoever wins is always well-liked by Europe in that respected year for whatever reason. And yes, nothing is taught about the other countries in the UK and we are all lumped in with England's opinions. We're divided enough within our own nation. As a German yourself, you'll know what it was like to have division in your own country at one point. Along with being un-liked by Europe as a whole, it's not surprising that so many of us don't feel a connection to Europe. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eMILY 1,099 Posted March 12 Author Share Posted March 12 I'm starting to worry that if she doesn't visit the UK this year then we might not see her for a long long time Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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