elegidadedios 1,926 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 (edited) 16 minutes ago, PartySick said: Trying so hard to not "what about" with the fact that Gaga worked with a known rapist, a predator, and she has a predator's face tattooed on her back...guess I did it anyway though but I'm not sticking around to argue about it just "glass houses and stones" or whatever. Idk, I cut Katy slack. Luke's just a producer, not her bestie, not her idol. Just a tool to be used to make (what she thought would be) hits. I don't exactly look to Katy Perry for moral guidance so idc what she does Well said. This generation really feels the need to overshare their opinions on everything because they want to feel better individuals every single second of the day. Do I think it was a good move? Hell no. Do I think it was ok to produce an album with a predator? Hell to the fckn no. Do I really care on my daily life about it to spend time on it doing essays here and there? The answer is no again cause I don't feel like a ciberactivist as I used to consider myself 6/7 years ago Edited February 18 by elegidadedios 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaGame 3,651 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 2 minutes ago, elegidadedios said: Watch your mouth before doing such an statement as if I thought it was okay for her to do such a horrible thing... Yeah, I'm really sorry for saying that, but I'm just trying to put you in perspective. What I'm trying to say is that she DID deserve the hate from the Dr. Luke situation, but not the whole album and era itself. Yes, I don't like the album and I have stated this always, but I do respect (sorta kinda) if anyone likes the album. 𝚎𝚢𝚎𝚜 𝚛𝚘𝚕𝚕 𝚋𝚊𝚌𝚔 𝚒𝚗 𝚎𝚌𝚜𝚝𝚊𝚜𝚢 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpeer 3,668 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 10 minutes ago, PartySick said: Trying so hard to not "what about" with the fact that Gaga worked with a known rapist, a predator, and she has a predator's face tattooed on her back...guess I did it anyway though but I'm not sticking around to argue about it just "glass houses and stones" or whatever. Idk, I cut Katy slack. Luke's just a producer, not her bestie, not her idol. Just a tool to be used to make (what she thought would be) hits. I don't exactly look to Katy Perry for moral guidance so idc what she does Gaga had her fair share of negative feedback thru her career. Sometimes fair sometimes not. I’m sure Katy would had almost no real life negative comments ( only probs Twitter) if she didn’t make Women’s World the lead. It was like a f you in the face. It was a bold move from Katy and her team that backfired 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegidadedios 1,926 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 (edited) 10 minutes ago, GagaGame said: Yeah, I'm really sorry for saying that, but I'm just trying to put you in perspective. What I'm trying to say is that she DID deserve the hate from the Dr. Luke situation, but not the whole album and era itself. Yes, I don't like the album and I have stated this always, but I do respect (sorta kinda) if anyone likes the album. I appreciate your effort but it wasn't needed to me put me in perspective in the first place as I have a clear opinion about it. The album is objectively bad, I do get the underperforming and awful reviews, it was a huge mistake to actively work with a predator in her new album but I still don't think she as an individual deserved all that hate. Period. Edited February 18 by elegidadedios 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegidadedios 1,926 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 6 minutes ago, Cpeer said: I personally never wrote anything bad about Katy when all that happened, I even enjoyed Lifetimes a few times on Spotify. But they knew she would get negative feedback when they made and planned to release Women’s World. Agreed. They should have known better and for her to still do it was absolutely awful. But that's it Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagzus 15,831 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 The music is poorly written, poorly produced and was a cash grab. That plus her deciding to work with a known sex offender. Plus the album is objectively bad with the exception of Lifetimes. It feels like an imitation of Prism era Katy and not a progression at all. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CautiousLurker 19,270 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Luke warm take but they wouldn't have to contend with nearly as much negativity if the music was any good, like Kim Petras gets sh*t on for working with Dr Luke too, but at least she pulled some good bops out of him that are still in circulation... Idk, on one hand I don't like how when an artist puts out work that's subpar, some people feel enraged by it... on the other hands, you're at the tipy top of the industry and have no excuse putting out such uninspired work, get it together... It's a joke! When you give me that look, it's a joke! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tylerjs 5,862 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 boring. it’s just their usual lame attempts at gaslighting people into thinking the hatred was forced. She has a bad track record and it has gotten worse with time. She’s being held accountable and they want to act like it’s unwarranted and manufactured lol. it’s still all a load of empty cash grabbing and she really is starting to bother me tbh 🇨🇺🇧🇸 monica from rhoslc kinda had a point 10 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windowlicker 3,522 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 I mean… Dr. Luke stuff aside, the music just flat out sucked, and the desperation to ✨slay✨ riddled throughout the campaign was palpable. So it was bound to be poorly received regardless. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegidadedios 1,926 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 1 minute ago, tylerjs said: boring. it’s just their usual lame attempts at gaslighting people into thinking the hatred was forced. She has a bad track record and it has gotten worse with time. She’s being held accountable and they want to act like it’s unwarranted and manufactured lol. it’s still all a load of empty cash grabbing and she really is starting to bother me tbh See? I do absolutely agree with this. Constructive criticism is always okay no matter what 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebit 6,240 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Between this guy & that insane interview with her A&R guy last summer (where he defended Luke, & claimed Lifetimes was a "club hit across the med" lmao), the people she's surrounded by are out-of-touch, delusional, enablers. It's easy to see how she ended up making such a terrible decision by having a whole album produced by Luke. That said, at this point, she is 40-years old, and she's not stupid - these are conscious decisions, so I'm not laying it all on them either. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionic 49,850 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 1 hour ago, PartySick said: It's weird how much hate she gets honestly. I can't believe I'm excited to see her in August...but I'm not learning any of the 143 songs, sorry She did personally kill all those nuns stream bionic 7 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 159,825 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 48 minutes ago, River said: That's enough for me hmm will we discover soon that u actually like voldemort swift? God no 🌸Flourishing and vibrant🌼 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionic 49,850 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Cpeer said: Gaga had her fair share of negative feedback thru her career. Sometimes fair sometimes not. People on this site are no better than MAGAs making excuses for Trump when it comes to making excuses for Gaga's problematic moments. Katy wanted a hit and went to a hitmaker to get one. The attitude would be a lot different if the music was actually good. Nobody cares about Say So etc Just visit any thread about Nicki Minaj, Azealia Banks etc and ppl will excuse anything if it suits their narrative Edited February 18 by bionic stream bionic 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagarka 474 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 53 minutes ago, Cpeer said: Well, she did release a female empowerment song with an alleged sexual abuser. It was bound to catch controversy The key word is “alleged.” He has not been proven to have done what he is accused of doing. But people don't want to think, they want to base it on their own emotions (in which there is no thinking) and believe victims who accuse others. If the court had found that Luke did all the things Kesha accused him of - then I would understand this flood of hate. But when nothing has been proven and you are hysterically proving that the person is guilty - it's just your emotions that you haven't learned to control (as adults you should learn to do that). Always remember the Michael Jackson case. Almost everyone believed he was guilty, the victims made it look like Michael did all the things he was accused of. But in the end, he won. 1 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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