Bronco 7,573 Posted Wednesday at 01:41 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 01:41 PM Just a reminder for folks. Piracy exists. And robbing fascists of wealth is morally right. Steal the music. Don't stream it lol 12 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathaniel Arven 1,633 Posted Wednesday at 01:46 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 01:46 PM (edited) 42 minutes ago, Gorehound said: Kinda pathetic imo sorry. don't be sorry. Just think please. i'm being very compact. NO ARTIST NO WORK OF ART IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN A REAL INTERACTION WITH A SIMPLE TREE. my only mistake was to pretend it's actually hard to cut off a singer from your life when i'd do that any day. This is a demonstration in setting yourself free. Edited Wednesday at 01:54 PM by Nathaniel Arven 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorehound 4,184 Posted Wednesday at 01:54 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 01:54 PM (edited) 13 minutes ago, Nathaniel Arven said: don't be sorry. Just think please. i'm being very compact. NO ARTIST NO WORK OF ART IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN A REAL INTERACTION WITH A SIMPLE TREE. my only mistake was to pretend it's actually hard to cut off a singer from your life when i'd do that any day. I'm doing a demonstration in setting yourself free. What do you mean "a real interaction with a simple tree"?? So you have cut off Bowie and Lana? Can I ask why? I didn't mean any insult btw it's just this particular topic sparked off my views on the larger matter. My post wasn't directed entirely on you. But I still stand by my belief that there is no harm in personally loving the artwork made by a bad person, even if you hate that person. That is freedom imo. Art and creativity is and always will be essential to humanity, and to dictate what should and shouldn't be accessible in that field is wrong. Edited Wednesday at 02:00 PM by Gorehound I'm fine, Ta 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathaniel Arven 1,633 Posted Wednesday at 02:01 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 02:01 PM 1 minute ago, Gorehound said: What do you mean "a real interaction with a simple tree"?? So you have cut off Bowie and Lana? Can I ask why? you need trees to breathe not van gogh or anywho. also you can sit under the shadow of a tree or hug the tree and share energy with a clever and sensible being. trees and bees and our oceans are so much more important than bowie and lana and mozart and van gogh and also lady gaga combined. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathaniel Arven 1,633 Posted Wednesday at 02:04 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 02:04 PM (edited) also bowie liked underaged groupies and lana flirst with colonialistic imagery and sucks a trumpist alligator tails. I'm not as radical with Lana, she still has the benefit of the doubt .. but like.... I just can't really. I don't even want it like i used too.... Just because of that. That's weird but it's true. Edited Wednesday at 02:06 PM by Nathaniel Arven Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorehound 4,184 Posted Wednesday at 02:06 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 02:06 PM 1 minute ago, Nathaniel Arven said: you need trees to breathe not van gogh or anywho. also you can sit under the shadow of a tree or hug the tree and share energy with a clever and sensible being. trees and bees and our oceans are so much more important than bowie and lana and mozart and van gogh and also lady gaga combined. Where is this coming from? I never said that art is more important than life and nature. Of course there are more important things than art but that is irrelevant to the argument at hand. I'm fine, Ta 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorehound 4,184 Posted Wednesday at 02:10 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 02:10 PM (edited) 42 minutes ago, Nathaniel Arven said: also bowie like underaged groupies and lana flirst with colonialistic imagery and sucks a trumpist alligator tails. I'm not as radical with Lana, she still has the benefit of the doubt .. but like.... I just can't really. I don't even want it like i used too.... Just because of that. That's weird but it's true. But neither of these come in the way of the fact that Bowie is one of the greatest music legends of all time, and so is Lana in her own way. With your perspective you might as well stop listening to music all together because most old school bands and alternative artists were/are problematic people. Hell, why not just never leave your house in future and enjoy anything, because there will always be things in this world (art, music, cinema, food, tech, fashion, etc.) made by people who you won't agree with. And how about I never talk to or see my old granddad again, because he's from an old fashioned close minded era and is therefore kinda racist and homophobic. Edited Wednesday at 02:47 PM by Gorehound I'm fine, Ta 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathaniel Arven 1,633 Posted Wednesday at 02:18 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 02:18 PM 4 minutes ago, Gorehound said: you might as well stop listening to music all together nope. believe me my jazz collection is rare. what i mean by that before you interpret me a bit too literally is that I can have a great experience with arts without any famous figure involved. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
notconfident 274 Posted Wednesday at 02:18 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 02:18 PM stopped listening to her music a couple years ago when I detected problematic behavior (everything after Miss Anthropocene has been nothing more than generic electonic music anyway), but finally blocked her this time, her pick-me-Elon behavior has reached new heights and I hope she feels all the consenquences 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorehound 4,184 Posted Wednesday at 02:19 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 02:19 PM Just now, Nathaniel Arven said: nope. believe me my jazz collection is rare. what i mean by that before you interpret me a bit too literally is that I can have a great experience with arts without any famous figure involved. You're missing my point. I'm fine, Ta Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathaniel Arven 1,633 Posted Wednesday at 02:30 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 02:30 PM 2 minutes ago, Gorehound said: You're missing my point. it's a very complex discussion. not in my native language.. and i'm being very abstract because i really wanna talk about the benefits of letting go. this is one of the only things i'm good at in general : letting go. also i wanna talk about stardom and what it is and what it does and capitalism. It's like stardom is the capitalism of art. and capitalism is the root of all evil. lol... finally to nuance who I am, I could listen to Lana again because she ain't done any literal crime yet nor proven she agrees with her husband.... but i just do way less and organically Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy 10,849 Posted Wednesday at 02:35 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 02:35 PM Girl oblivion was never that good be fr lmao Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorehound 4,184 Posted Wednesday at 02:36 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 02:36 PM (edited) 6 minutes ago, Nathaniel Arven said: it's a very complex discussion. not in my native language.. and i'm being very abstract because i really wanna talk about the benefits of letting go. this is one of the only things i'm good at in general : letting go. also i wanna talk about stardom and what it is and what it does and capitalism. It's like stardom is the capitalism of art. and capitalism is the root of all evil. lol... finally to nuance who I am, I could listen to Lana again because she ain't done any literal crime yet nor proven she agrees with her husband.... but i just do way less and organically Well that's fair. We can agree to disagree. But I stand by my belief that cancel culture is getting out of hand, and there is nothing wrong from separating the art from the artist. Edited Wednesday at 02:38 PM by Gorehound I'm fine, Ta 2 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chromaticainmyhead 6,434 Posted Wednesday at 02:39 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 02:39 PM hopefully people will stop defending her fan-tas-tique, chic, freak, slaaaay 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelloHangoverz 16,236 Posted Wednesday at 02:44 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 02:44 PM 13 minutes ago, Nathaniel Arven said: it's a very complex discussion. not in my native language.. and i'm being very abstract because i really wanna talk about the benefits of letting go. this is one of the only things i'm good at in general : letting go. also i wanna talk about stardom and what it is and what it does and capitalism. It's like stardom is the capitalism of art. and capitalism is the root of all evil. lol... finally to nuance who I am, I could listen to Lana again because she ain't done any literal crime yet nor proven she agrees with her husband.... but i just do way less and organically girl you're confusing us more than gaga promoting ARTPOP IS NO ONE GOING TO HELP ME WITH THE POST OFFICE?! 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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