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6 hours ago, SHALLOW said:

Why are you interpreting as misogynistic tho? I didn't talk about her being sexy. I'm talking about her being the crazy Gaga we know, being provocative and wearing outrageous looks. We're never going to get that back. I have the feeling that this album is a farewell to that dark, crazy side of her. I think the albums she's gonna make from now on are probably going to be more like Joanne, or at least a bit softer when it comes to aesthetics and themes. That's all

Every single thing you post on this site is always such a downer by the way

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1 hour ago, PawsUpJago said:

Every single thing you post on this site is always such a downer by the way

I'm not very optimistic in general, and i can also be very critical, i'll give you that; but i trust my intuition as i often end up being right. I'm sure Gaga's gonna change after she has kids, cause most women do. So it's likely that her music will change too. That's all.  I don't think i was being negative, i just have a gut feeling about stuff :enigma:

 

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39 minutes ago, SHALLOW said:

I'm not very optimistic in general, and i can also be very critical, i'll give you that; but i trust my intuition as i often end up being right. I'm sure Gaga's gonna change after she has kids, cause most women do. So it's likely that her music will change too. That's all.  I don't think i was being negative, i just have a gut feeling about stuff :enigma:

 

Madonna made Ray Of Light, Music, American Life and COADF after having kids. Beyoncé made Beyoncé, Lemonade, Renaissance and CC. I think she'll be fine. 

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2 hours ago, PawsUpJago said:

Every single thing you post on this site is always such a downer by the way

tbh we need opinions and members like @SHALLOW because sometimes the opinions are too positive everywhere. In every fan base u need more critical members to give a push and pull. I would argue that it is better to argue with him instead of just labelling him as a debbie downer! it makes for more fun interaction. That's the whole point of having a cult website! its to have debate in good faith! :hug: :heart: come on guys! :runhug:

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4 minutes ago, Vimo said:

Madonna made Ray Of Light, Music, American Life and COADF after having kids. Beyoncé made Beyoncé, Lemonade, Renaissance and CC. I think she'll be fine. 

yes but Shallow has a point tbh. Gaga has not expressed the same mentality as they have before giving birth. She is talking about a much much more traditional lifestyle in her interviews and about being way more private. I just watched a ton of Madonna interviews from right before she gave birth / when she was pregnant and during it she was talking about all the projects she will do while pregnant, about how she will not hide her children or herself etc...the ambition level was a little bit different tbh. Idk about Beyonce tho. The point that @SHALLOW is making i think is that we cant use past exaples to dictate how we think Gaga will deal with having kids....everything is pointing towards Gaga being way more private and taking on a slower career trajectory post children tbh. Doesn ot mean its a bad thing at all by the way! we are all grown ups and we will be able to adjust but i think he has a bit of a point to say that past behavior of other divas does not mean it will automatically apply to our Gagita! 

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6 minutes ago, dit said:

yes but Shallow has a point tbh. Gaga has not expressed the same mentality as they have before giving birth. She is talking about a much much more traditional lifestyle in her interviews and about being way more private. I just watched a ton of Madonna interviews from right before she gave birth / when she was pregnant and during it she was talking about all the projects she will do while pregnant, about how she will not hide her children or herself etc...the ambition level was a little bit different tbh. Idk about Beyonce tho. The point that @SHALLOW is making i think is that we cant use past exaples to dictate how we think Gaga will deal with having kids....everything is pointing towards Gaga being way more private and taking on a slower career trajectory post children tbh. Doesn ot mean its a bad thing at all by the way! we are all grown ups and we will be able to adjust but i think he has a bit of a point to say that past behavior of other divas does not mean it will automatically apply to our Gagita! 

Well, a more Adele approach to it then.

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1 minute ago, Vimo said:

Well, a more Adele approach to it then.

yes I think this is the most likely outcome! obviously but with more bops to it! lol just with big gaps like Adele probably and more residency in vegas instead of touring too much etc

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34 minutes ago, dit said:

tbh we need opinions and members like @SHALLOW because sometimes the opinions are too positive everywhere. In every fan base u need more critical members to give a push and pull. I would argue that it is better to argue with him instead of just labelling him as a debbie downer! it makes for more fun interaction. That's the whole point of having a cult website! its to have debate in good faith! :hug: :heart: come on guys! :runhug:

Thank you. I really appreciate you saying that. You don't know how many times i felt attacked on this site just for expressing an opinion. I know i can be very critical and ofc i stick out like a sore thumb in threads where most people show their excitement. Thing is, i'm also excited for Mayhem, same as i was for Disease etc... I just can't help but give my opinion on some aspects. Thing is i always mean well as i want Gaga to be her best self as an artist. Thank you again for seeing that :heart:

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A long long time ago, I was an ashlee simpson fan. One of the last things she did before I stopped being a fan was get pregnant with Bronx. I was so happy to see her baby bump as she was out and about. And now gaga. She is talking about having kids. And ugh I can't wait for the upgrade. I hope she isn't SUPER private. Us little monsters wanna know what you named the baby at least!

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Is anyone else a bit confused by the mixed messaging in the article? Don’t get me wrong, it’s a fantastic read, but on the one hand Gaga conveys that she is settling down, slowing down, focused on making genuine connections with people, and finding joy in private moments at home. She’s full of joy and no longer influenced by her past fears, insecurities, and vices, like drinking and smoking. But at the same time, she’s saying this album is super dark, chaotic, and about her demons. It’s a bit confusing to me, like the messaging around where she is in life is at odds with the messaging of this album. Her words here feel more in line with Joanne or Chromatica (family, healing, etc.). If this album indeed represents Gaga’s personal journey with chaos and darkness in her life, but her life so peaceful and quiet… I’m a bit confused? Also, I wish she gave actual examples of how she is “embracing darkness” in her life, because her anecdotes all seem quite the opposite (making broccoli lol). I guess I wish she sold the dark persona a bit more for this era, rather than being all lovey and peaceful. At least I’d believe the fantasy a bit more :) 

(A good example being: how Charli served brat in every single thing she did and said during that era)

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22 minutes ago, Nycboy said:

Is anyone else a bit confused by the mixed messaging in the article? Don’t get me wrong, it’s a fantastic read, but on the one hand Gaga conveys that she is settling down, slowing down, focused on making genuine connections with people, and finding joy in private moments at home. She’s full of joy and no longer influenced by her past fears, insecurities, and vices, like drinking and smoking. But at the same time, she’s saying this album is super dark, chaotic, and about her demons. It’s a bit confusing to me, like the messaging around where she is in life is at odds with the messaging of this album. Her words here feel more in line with Joanne or Chromatica (family, healing, etc.). If this album indeed represents Gaga’s personal journey with chaos and darkness in her life, but her life so peaceful and quiet… I’m a bit confused? Also, I wish she gave actual examples of how she is “embracing darkness” in her life, because her anecdotes all seem quite the opposite (making broccoli lol). I guess I wish she sold the dark persona a bit more for this era, rather than being all lovey and peaceful. At least I’d believe the fantasy a bit more :) 

(A good example being: how Charli served brat in every single thing she did and said during that era)

She specified that she now knows how to channel her darkness through music rather than being in this darkness all the time. I also think it's healthy to make dark art when you're happy. You are in control of the darkness, and you can step out of it once you go back into your life. It probably even makes it easier to go deeper in the darkness cause you feel safe. 

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6 minutes ago, Vimo said:

She specified that she now knows how to channel her darkness through music rather than being in this darkness all the time. I also think it's healthy to make dark art when you're happy. You are in control of the darkness, and you can step out of it once you go back into your life. It probably even makes it easier to go deeper in the darkness cause you feel safe. 

That totally makes sense and it would have been so cool if she explained it that way, like “I feel so so safe with Michael that it’s allowing me to travel into the deepest, darkest, sickest parts of my mind to make art, and come out alive” 

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