MAYHEM: The Official Discussion Thread (Act II) It’s MAYHEM in here 👹

[Hennycomb 3,434]

1 hour ago, 7thChaos said:

Guys, read this 

Donatan, a Polish music producer who was at Eurovision 2014 final with artist Cleo with song "We Are Slavic" wants money from Lady Gaga for plagiarism. Cleo shared song "Łowcy Gwiazd" in 2018, when her Polish fans compared it to song Abracadabra. Donatan claims that Gaga took idea from Cleo to use for Abracadabra and wants money from Gaga. Most people claim that these songs aren't similar at all.

Donatan didn't hold back and also addressed alleged plagiarism. Under Cleo's post, he posted a comment in which he noted that Polish singer should demand payment. "I think I can contact her for money," the producer wrote, gathering many reactions from Internet users under his statement. Listeners can now only wait for American star to respond to allegations.

source: https://muzyka.interia.pl/pop/news-lady-gaga-ukradla-melodie-polskiej-wokalistki-donatan-chce-z,nId,20947620 (translate it)

For a song to be considered plagiarism it has to match the melodies, rhythm, tempo, pauses, chord progression, key, etc. It needs to fit on top of the other. Or exact lyrics with different music underneath. Just one layer or one aspect of the song being the same doesn't make a case for plagiarism. It can't just be details. That's what happened recently with Adele's "Million Years Ago" and Toninho Geraes's "Mulheres". A musician was hired to make the analysis and report to the judge, he used colors to show the judge what matched and it was the rhythm, pauses, chord progression, vocal melody, everything. The judge only ruled because when he saw the visual representation with colors representing notes and beats, everything matched in the different layers. It doesn't mean Adele stole the song, it means she had an idea that already existed and did it by mistake, and songs are registered intelectual property, that's why she lost the case. You can't point out plagiarism in similar loose ideas. Chord progression, for example, is one of the things that different songs share a lot. From reading this, I don't understand what similarities this person is pointing out.

[Hennycomb 3,434]

I just listened to the song. The melody of the vocals are not the same. Could have some similar intervals but the prosody is different, and the structure of the song is different. And according to tunebat, Abracadabra is in Bb minor and this song is in F# major. This would never make a case for plagiarism.

[Gabe 2,295]

1 hour ago, 7thChaos said:

Guys, read this 

Donatan, a Polish music producer who was at Eurovision 2014 final with artist Cleo with song "We Are Slavic" wants money from Lady Gaga for plagiarism. Cleo shared song "Łowcy Gwiazd" in 2018, when her Polish fans compared it to song Abracadabra. Donatan claims that Gaga took idea from Cleo to use for Abracadabra and wants money from Gaga. Most people claim that these songs aren't similar at all.

Donatan didn't hold back and also addressed alleged plagiarism. Under Cleo's post, he posted a comment in which he noted that Polish singer should demand payment. "I think I can contact her for money," the producer wrote, gathering many reactions from Internet users under his statement. Listeners can now only wait for American star to respond to allegations.

source: https://muzyka.interia.pl/pop/news-lady-gaga-ukradla-melodie-polskiej-wokalistki-donatan-chce-z,nId,20947620 (translate it)

The delusion

[Hennycomb 3,434]

Nevermind 

Edited 9 hours ago by Hennycomb

[Mirrion Rizzons 10,480]

21 hours ago, GerMonsterNotta said:

Yes I hear you here- I think she has been reflecting on how her demons manifest for a long, long time…. She gave this painting to Tony… I always thought it was a way of saying, look at what my love of jazz is helping me face…… I only think when she fully settled with Michael did she conquer or harness such demons…. Such a long time 

Yep! Pretty sure even the disease character had the same ‘silhouette’, just more humanised

Also love the representation of her inner demon with disease, how it only had 1 bloodshot eye and one normal eye, and had more human like features - it represents a scary but real part of her, but she has gotten better at living with that part of herself that it no longer has as much power over her

[tonyrosamusic 44]

Guys, I did a version of Disease as if it was on The Fame Monster, I hope you love it!

 

[RAYA.core 737]

2 hours ago, tonyrosamusic said:

Guys, I did a version of Disease as if it was on The Fame Monster, I hope you love it!

 

interesting! definitely thought i heard some of this beat