Slate: Why Gaga & Bruno Needed Each Other For #1

[RAMROD 105,524]

4 minutes ago, RenegAde said:

When was brunos last successful solo project? 

2016 for That's What I Like from his 3rd album. He's doing Silk Sonic project and long touring & residency after that. 
 

Gaga last solo #1 is in 2011 for Born This Way

[Starmie25 14,367]

I remember when the first debut numbers for DWAS were revealed and many were saying it was quite low? 

Also it's ok to give Gaga a bit credit too seriously. She still played a part in this beautiful collab along with the mv direction it seems too.

[gumzy3000 6,989]

Controversial opinion but I do not think DWAS would have been as successful or even top 10 with just Gaga on it. The GP loves Bruno Mars for his boy next door, accessible image. Gaga is still considered outlandish and too out there for casual listeners (just look at Disease). 

[RenegAde 18,310]

19 minutes ago, RAMROD said:

2016 for That's What I Like from his 3rd album. He's doing Silk Sonic project and long touring & residency after that. 
 

Gaga last solo #1 is in 2011 for Born This Way

I said a successful solo project and not a no1 per se.

Gaga has had numerous moments of tremendous success since born this way. Yet anytime she's successful, people (even fans) look for a reason to rationalize it instead sticking to the obvious reasons like quality of the project and timing of release.

How many times and ways is Gaga expected to prove herself? especially when bruno hasn't received much solo success of his own in almost a decade but these same petty conversations aren't being had about him?

These conversations really pisses me off because  for the first time I followed chart data tracking because of how much I love DWAS and no one can deny the fact that little monsters did most of  the heavy lifting for those first week numbers before brunos demographic even caught on.

Edited January 12 by RenegAde

[monketsharona 59,606]

A lot of mess in that article.

That said I have to agree on the obvious fact DWAS is used by Gaga's team and label to make up with the recent fails : Joker being a big tank in both commercial and critics, Harlequin kinda being a one week moment (most definitely suffered in plans because of the movie fail), and Disease clear underperformance (100% also suffering from timing and recent bad press around Joker).

Not even a shade in some points as everybody would have done the same. I just hope they will sell the album for what it is, not only relying DWAS. Because it's safe to say this album will be a serve in quality and that would be a total mess not trying to get some success from this. Gaga can carry songs, she just need a team and label that are willing to trying a bit more with her solo material.

[MOT 2,757]

Look, this guy's boss told him 'Write an article about Bruno and Gaga, come up with an angle, any ol s--t, I don't care'.

Neither of them are living in a cold attic flat surviving on beans and toast and pining for past glories. In Gaga's case she was heading for billionaire status last time I checked. JFAD turned out to be a flop, but the fact is she is someone who has just starred in a very high profile movie. DWAS is Bruno's song. Gaga got involved and together they created a bit of magic, so it's champagne all round, Dom I'd guess.

[monketsharona 59,606]

A point : people need to stop with the narrative that anything that doesn't go #1 is not hit material.

ROM went #1 while Bad Romance, Telephone, Paparazzi, ARUTW, Alejandro, The Edge of Glory, Million Reason, Applause, Bloody Mary did not. It says a lot. 

Edited January 12 by monketsharona

[RAMROD 105,524]

9 minutes ago, RenegAde said:

I said a successful solo project and not a no1 per se.

 

Well, what are you considered success, specifically? Cos his last solo album got number 1s, sold multi platinums, and winning 6 grammys for it, and known widely by locals. And he got sold out tours too. All things that an artist wish to have when they release new records. 

[RenegAde 18,310]

17 minutes ago, RAMROD said:

Well, what are you considered success, specifically? Cos his last solo album got number 1s, sold multi platinums, and winning 6 grammys for it, and known widely by locals. And he got sold out tours too. All things that an artist wish to have when they release new records. 

Why are you listing out brunos stats for me when the point I'm making is abundantly clear ?

Yes these are impressive but they happened over a decade ago and  bruno has had success since then but they are all collaborative and no one is invalidating him like they are gaga. My point is clear

[eifulien 2,442]

Ugh, I can already sense DWAS will be a sore thumb of sorts for the whole LG7 campaign (is it even happening at this point or the management and the label decided that slapping that song on the album was enough to make the album a success, hence no need to push more songs from it?).

I hate the idea that this album will be remembered for having DWAS on it. TERRIBLE considering Disease is the lead single + the sound and vibe from the Paris snippets...

Also, why does the author imply it was somehow Gaga's fault that the audience shrugged at Disease? It remains an immaculate classic-Gaga addition to her catalogue. Stupid Love for comparison may not have been shrugged at by the GP but it remains an abysmal low for a Gaga lead quality-wise. Then there's the Harlequin dismissal, again why? The quality is right there. Happy Mistake blows all her ballads out of the water for me, with the exception of Speechless.

Sorry for the vent, but we are again at a point where she's not getting enough credit for the quality of her output. Paradoxically, her highest rated album is Chromatica, which is easily her most basic one. Whenever she does something more complex she's misunderstood. It's always been a part of our journey with her, I guess.

[RAMROD 105,524]

4 minutes ago, RenegAde said:

Why are you listing out brunos stats for me when the point I'm making is abundantly clear ?

Yes these are impressive but they happened over a decade ago and  bruno has had success since then but they are all collaborative and no one is invalidating him like they are gaga. My point is clear

Welk you were asking his last success, so there was it. Maybe you need to be more to the point next time than just wishy washy about it, cos the point is not that clear, sorry to say. 

[RenegAde 18,310]

3 minutes ago, RAMROD said:

Welk you were asking his last success, so there was it. Maybe you need to be more to the point next time than just wishy washy about it, cos the point is not that clear, sorry to say. 

Reading posts before responding is so important. 

[Juanlittlem 42,123]

16 minutes ago, RenegAde said:

Reading posts before responding is so important. 

I mean you're asking about a succesful solo project and you're getting the answer about it. He hasn't released a solo album since 2016 so of course is gonna be almost a decade old.

That's 'cause you're chosing to ignore Silk Sonic, which was a huge success too and you can tell it was Bruno carrying 'cause Anderson Paak is doing nothing in terms of success 

 

[Bowman 8,085]

Not gonna lie I gave up reading halfway through 

[River 107,073]

You always need to check the journalists past articles to understand their mind and their stance

I mean.. please..

https://slate.com/culture/2024/05/taylor-swift-fortnight-song-tortured-poets-department-billboard.html

Don't give him too much credit, he's like a 12 years old pop stan, writing articles to the school's newspaper.