Morphine Prince 109,711 Posted November 9, 2024 Share Posted November 9, 2024 Donald Trump's phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Wednesday included two surprises: Elon Musk was also on the line, and Zelensky was somewhat reassured by what he heard from the president-elect, two sources with knowledge of the call tell Axios. Why it matters: The new details of the call underscore how influential Musk could be in the second Trump administration, and the uncertainty over how exactly Trump will approach Ukraine. Between the lines: Trump's public messages throughout the election campaign — promising a quick resolution to the war, declining to say which side he wanted to win and criticizing the massive aid packages flowing from Washington — raised alarm bells in Kyiv and throughout Europe. The Biden administration is now looking for ways to get as much military assistance as possible to Ukraine ahead of Jan. 20, when Trump could turn off the spigot. But the private conversations Trump and his team have had with Zelensky and his advisers over the last two months — including on Wednesday — were somewhat more reassuring to the Ukrainians, the sources say. Zelensky himself felt the fact that the call happened so soon after Trump was declared the winner was a positive sign, one of the sources told Axios. Trump has yet to speak with Vladimir Putin since the election, but the Russian president said he will pick up if Trump calls. Musk also weighed in during the call to say he will continue supporting Ukraine through his Starlink satellites, the sources said. Musk did not respond to a request for comment. Starlink has been crucial to Ukraine's war effort, though Musk has also mocked Zelensky's requests for U.S. aid, and Zelensky rebuked the billionaire for proposing a peace plan of his own in 2022. Reality check: Much went unsaid, and much remains unknown. Trump and Zelensky did not delve into policies like Trump's purported plan to end the war, or the prospect of further U.S. aid, the sources said. Read more: https://www.axios.com/2024/11/08/musk-trump-zelensky-ukraine-call Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas 31,235 Posted November 9, 2024 Share Posted November 9, 2024 49 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: But the private conversations Trump and his team have had with Zelensky and his advisers over the last two months — including on Wednesday — were somewhat more reassuring to the Ukrainians, the sources say. Ok but Trump lies every time he opens his mouth, Trump is friend with Putin, and Russia would have no interest in interfering in the USA elections in favor of Trump if Trump is going to still send any help to Ukraine. They don't want Zelensky to know what's coming, not Europe either who is starting to panick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
4th Time Around 5,061 Posted November 9, 2024 Share Posted November 9, 2024 Trump will have a limited impact on the ultimate outcome of the conflict regardless if he continues funding Zelensky or cuts the funds off. Putin is not going to give concessions, if anything his position has hardened lately and if Trump decides to stop supporting Ukraine, that will just hasten their defeat. The reality is that the war is lost from a Ukranian standpoint because we are talking about attritional fighting and Russia has vastly superior resources and continues capturing territory every day. This comes from the Ukranian insiders themselves which is why Europe is so worried about a Trump presidency. The sanctions have totally failed to bring down the Russian economy and they are not geopoliticlly isolated since they have pivoted to brics and support the Palestinians which has won them friends in the middle east who are hostile to Israel and the United States. Support for Israels slaughter of Palestinians has done nothing but ruin our geopolitical position and Israel is still no closer to winning in military terms. Trump got treated like gum on the bottom of Putin's shoe during his last term, does anyone seriously expect him to live up to his delusional promise of solving the war in Ukraine in 24 hours? Here is your throat back, thanks for the loan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatography 10,186 Posted November 9, 2024 Share Posted November 9, 2024 Why are we involving Elon? Such a ****ing idiot. America is doomed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow 6,697 Posted November 9, 2024 Share Posted November 9, 2024 With all the money Elon donated to Trump's campaign, it appears he will have dangerous sway on American policy and executive power. Stand in the light, cast your shadow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivy 13,752 Posted November 9, 2024 Share Posted November 9, 2024 Trump supporters are saying "see how foreign leaders fall in line when they feel power" the meow in zombieboy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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