babababylon 124 Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 2 hours ago, crazygato said: I’m really starting to like the song but was not impressed with the video, which doesn’t matter much anyway. I expected a top 15 debut tbh. I also don’t see many people enjoying this song, except for the fans. It’s an earworm for sure, but don’t see it being popular outside of the internet. I fear that she will only get hits off ballads or features, which I dread! Definitely think it will rise, at least top 20! It’s just a warm up for better things because it does sound promising! You ok girl? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo 26 Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 I understand that the most people from this page try to support Gaga whatever happens. But sometimes I miss the realistic view without Gaga glasses. Wether DWAS nor less promo is the reason, Disease is not a perfect airplay lead single and overheard very quick. Too slow for the clubs, too dark for the commercial success. Being succesful these days is not based on how a fan base is pushing a song, it is based on how people listen to it who are NOT involved in the gaga world. Too many people here mixing their wishes with reality. 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smitherz 2,106 Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 I’m starting to feel like them being much more reserved in Disease rollout was kinda smart… she clearly wanted to give us a lil Halloween moment, but is cognizant of the fact that the election is right after. Sinking all this time, energy and exposure right before the biggest political moment of the century seems a bit futile. She came and served the fans what they’ve been begging for to build some good will… once the election noise and the Christmas holiday is out of the way, then she can really pound the pavement and go full force 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TortureMeOnReplay 5,784 Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 7 hours ago, Caldy said: I think it's safe to say that Disease is not performing as well as we would have hoped for a lead single, and that's ok. I personally didn't enjoy the song and it is definitely not radio friendly nor is it in the realm of songs that the GP have come to love from Gaga. However, I do know many people that love it for how different it sounds compared to the rest of the current pop landscape. I also think that part of Disease's thunder is being stolen by DWAS, which is creating an unexpected problem for Gaga's team because they must now choose to promote one of the songs over the other. I suspect that it was expected that the hype for DWAS would have died out by this time and that Disease would be a hit as it was released at the same time as Halloween. However, DWAS has only grown in popularity and there is probably pressure from both Bruno and Gaga's record labels to promote it further now that it has the potential to reach #1. Gaga has never been in a position before in her career where a new lead was being overshadowed by a duet released weeks prior, not even during ASIB era. I also feel that the bad press of FAD may have negatively impacted her image, further contributing to the underperformance of this single. I think her team royally scr*wed up this release and it's kind of disappointing to see, especially after everything Gaga has been through. I really think her management should know better at this point, especially after being in the business for over 16 years now. I personally found it interesting that they would release new versions of DWAS and a live performance a few days after a completely new song. That being said, I am glad that she is in a place where she is happy again. I also think we need to stop saying "oh but she doesn't care about the charts, she is releasing what makes her happy". That is total BS, everybody cares about charts and this is no different. You're technically right because of your wording. But Gaga's biggest hits have always been growers that debuted horribly and grown to become the hits they are. 5 hours ago, juicyjuicy said: Honestly, I’m not surprised. Is anyone? The untimely teasing, messy rollouts of her new music this year, negative Joker press, and lack of promo have surmounted to this. Disease as a song has been quite divisive - you either love it or hate it - so in my opinion, this is actually pretty good, all things considered. 27 is not bad, but not great (for Gaga’s standards). Personally, I really like the song and am trying not to care about the charts too. But for all those saying “music not the bling”…let’s be real, she is a pop star and recording artist signed to one of the biggest music record labels in the world at the end of the day. Whilst many in the industry still applaud her for her legacy, artistry and talent (as do I), unfortunately to some (and definitely her label), her success will still be held to a fair extent to how well she performs commercially and her pop music career’s longevity may depend on that. You want to hear her new music on the radio? You best hope that she charts. Is Disease her best song? No. Far from it. It sounds ‘watered down’ for the GP - it wants to be rock, but not quite, it wants to be industrial techno, but not quite, it wants to be pop, but it’s unlike anything on the radio/top 40 at the moment. But I love that. It’s new. It’s fresh. It’s daring. Like Lady Gaga has always been. It makes me excited for what’s to come (LG7). Also, huge applause for the MV as it is a great showcase of her artistry and creative intent and talent. I will always be rooting for her. Talent won. Gaga's LG7 budget has already been decided, and considering her earlier albums had around a 15 million dollar commitment, I'd assume LG7 has at least that. It's not that the label is uncommitted and able to cut her off when they want. Also, her budgets are based on ALBUM sales, not single sales. Nothing about Gaga's career is front loaded, it's all been a slow burn. Watch the video I mentioned above and see how her biggest hits didn't debut well. ARTPOP only gained love over the past 10 years. Bloody Mary became a hit 13 years after the fact. It took the GP 5 albums to realize she can sing. Her catalog is EXTREMELY attractive to the label and investors as an investment, not a pump and dump scheme. If Interscope thought she was a cash cow to be milked for instant gratification, we'd be sitting here like the Navy with LG11. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hijadeputa 3,482 Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 Guys enjoy the music, Disease might grow on the charts, second single might be a top 5 hit and the album is still coming. The album is hyped and will do very well in its first week 2 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler k 4,734 Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 I am begging you all to let go needing songs to chart well for them to be good to you Disease is a smash, the most interesting & most GAGA thing Gaga has done in years, enjoy it? mmmy name ~isn't~ aliceee 1 1 1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M i K E Y 7,283 Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 People are literally “embarrassed” by this? Does your mood depend on a song performance on the charts which get manipulated anyway? Wow calm tf down. You’re not losing anything except for your mind maybe. And a good chart position is not necessarily an indicator of a “good” song. Just enjoy what you have ffs NO DUCT TAPE - NO MISSON 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juanlittlem 41,504 Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 The only reason this dropped from early predictions is because of Tyler's new album (not announced when predictions happened). And to those of you who say "she's top 3 on spotify!!!" Well, The Weeknd is #1 and his lead single (with physical release) and bot youtube views debuted at #14. Dejare de quererte cuando un pintor sordo pinte el sonido de un pétalo al caer en el suelo de cristal de un castillo que no existe. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastpopicon 3,632 Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 Wasn't the prediction 28? we are up big The melody that you choose can rescue you Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagzus 14,458 Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 I see this in the vein of Beyoncé where the singles don’t do as well but the albums do. I mean Beyoncé hasn’t had a proper hit that everyone loves in over 10 years on Self Titled really. Her fans don’t complain because she gave them what they wanted, same for Gaga. This is the Gaga music we’ve all asked for, if she wants to have hits and chart performance she can just slap out a ballad or collab every 3-4 years really. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
princedeeblebleble 514 Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 (edited) The song is great, fans and non fans seem to be enjoying it, like fans immidiately took it to social media to talk about it, hours after the vid came out people made the looks and immitated the video again flooding various websites, so we did the best we could. Problem is that there's no physicals that bump up singles the most As for making the general public aware theres no interviews, no public appearances minus the Rally; like not even paparazzi shots which makes it look like she's hiding lool The nail on the coffin is them deciding to put out all the DWAS varians during the Disease release week since I guess they were busy with the Harlequin promo prep and physical formats in september and october? :P She could have made a quick haloween appearance at a random gay club, or did a quick preformance on some tv show, but even the release itself seemed so quickly put together that it makes it look like they didn't have anything ready to capitalise the release. There's not even a basic update on the website to at least take you to the Disease video, like the bio link takes you to the Harlequin segment, thus not even selling the DWAS formats they prioritised over Disease vynils and cds. Yea, it's not all about the charts, but at the same time I'm slightly annoyed that for Chromatica they used the pandemic for lack of any promo/preformances, what is holding them back now? Like this is the best lead she's released since BTW/Applause and it feels like it's some b side random song she dropped between album cycles cause the song does not have a place on any album. Edited November 5 by princedeeblebleble Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimitristhe 1,543 Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 The song has 30+ million streams and 15million views in YouTube (combined). She is ok. The song is not a hit but not a flop. I expected more to be honest, considering the GP is eating her past dark songs, like Judas and Bloody Mary. I don't know what happened and the song is underperforming for her standards. Maybe it will be a sleeper hit, like Hold My Hand. When we're not together tell me everything's gonna be alright 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijahfan 24,869 Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 While chart success is always a nice bonus, and it’s natural to want to see your fave doing well, I feel it too often veers into toxic territory. Disease is a total artistic triumph, and it’s a shame some fans will appreciate it less because it didn’t instantly make the top 20. Makes you wonder if some people are here for the good reasons. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagzus 14,458 Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 (edited) 2 hours ago, M i K E Y said: People are literally “embarrassed” by this? Does your mood depend on a song performance on the charts which get manipulated anyway? Wow calm tf down. You’re not losing anything except for your mind maybe. And a good chart position is not necessarily an indicator of a “good” song. Just enjoy what you have ffs It’s mostly the younger fans that are craving to live through a Gaga peak era, because they were too young to remember or live through her original peak. Artistically Disease as a song and video could easily slot into TFM for example. Whilst easily being a progression. This is what older fans wanted, so I’m glad she’s appealing to us and bringing back her more eccentricity and dark bangers again. Edited November 5 by gagzus 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliviaRodrigoStan 4,383 Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 I do understand 4 hours ago, Romeo said: I understand that the most people from this page try to support Gaga whatever happens. But sometimes I miss the realistic view without Gaga glasses. Wether DWAS nor less promo is the reason, Disease is not a perfect airplay lead single and overheard very quick. Too slow for the clubs, too dark for the commercial success. Being succesful these days is not based on how a fan base is pushing a song, it is based on how people listen to it who are NOT involved in the gaga world. Too many people here mixing their wishes with reality. This. To me, this is as high as a song like Disease can go, and that's fine? . If released by anyone else, this song wouldn't have touched the HOT100 at all. It's charting only because Lady GaGa released it, not because there's a mainstream audience for it. And she probably knows this, she's been in the industry for decades, she knows what works, and what doesn't. She released this song knowing it would never go #1, and she probably doesn't care. She'll make obscene amounts of money with her next tour, I think she'll be fine releasing songs that only hit the top30 this era, I personally couldn't care less. HEART OF EVER-FROST Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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