Why does Perfect Illusion have mixed reactions among the fan base?

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1 minute ago, EvilBunny said:

The perfect illusion mini era was so chaotic, I love it  

 

I remember the dive bar era and Gaga stopping sound check cause the bass was gonna make her orgasm.  

[EvilBunny 1,070]

1 minute ago, BARKDANGER said:

Same but with booze, late night, dancing in my rural yard, no lights what so ever. Looking up at the stars. And just vibe. As I am doing right now. 
 

That sounds like a marvelous experience  

[BornAsUnic0rn 1,937]

I truly believe it’s one of her best songs, and I am still surprised to this day that it didn’t get massive.

 

But yeah, Monsters expected RedOne Gaga which it wasn’t. Also sadly quite a big part of the fanbase can‘t help but rate Gaga‘s singles based on their success.
 

Look at Judas for example, until it became a steady TikTok & streaming darling, it was almost consensus that Judas was her biggest mistake and the beginning of some kind of downfall. But now that it‘s slowly surpassing single after single in streams, they „always loved it“.

[EvilBunny 1,070]

Just now, BARKDANGER said:

I remember the dive bar era and Gaga stopping sound check cause the bass was gonna make her orgasm.  

Hahaha the dive bar tour was so fun, I remember being so stoked to see the livestreams. I love these special moments she creates in every era. The beginning of Chromatica era was also super exciting, I was hyperventilating when she posted new Gagavisions and was posting a lot of crazy videos on her socials (like that one with her high at the fast food hahaha). I’m really curious to see what she have in store for LG7 

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1 minute ago, BornAsUnic0rn said:

I truly believe it’s one of her best songs, and I am still surprised to this day that it didn’t get massive.

 

But yeah, Monsters expected RedOne Gaga which it wasn’t. Also sadly quite a big part of the fanbase can‘t help but rate Gaga‘s singles based on their success.
 

Look at Judas for example, until it became a steady TikTok & streaming darling, it was almost consensus that Judas was her biggest mistake and the beginning of some kind of downfall. But now that it‘s slowly surpassing single after single in streams, they „always loved it“.

So true. Our modern stan culture is really spoiling the experience of pop music with this obsession over numbers. Like you said, our perception if a song is good or not is becoming more and more based on how many streams the work can get. And it definitely didn’t need to be like that, because Gaga is already a consolidated figure in the music industry. We could definitely just relax and enjoy the music. Slave 4 u, one of the most iconic singles in pop history, peaked at number 27 on the hot 100. Imagine if that track was released today… Twitter would claim it as a flop, and the general perception surrounding the song would probably be mediocre. This is so crazy and sad… 

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1 minute ago, EvilBunny said:

That sounds like a marvelous experience  

It was such an experience I will never forget. I'm actually doing it as I type. Perfect Delusion. 

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16 minutes ago, BornAsUnic0rn said:

I truly believe it’s one of her best songs, and I am still surprised to this day that it didn’t get massive.

 

But yeah, Monsters expected RedOne Gaga which it wasn’t. Also sadly quite a big part of the fanbase can‘t help but rate Gaga‘s singles based on their success.
 

Look at Judas for example, until it became a steady TikTok & streaming darling, it was almost consensus that Judas was her biggest mistake and the beginning of some kind of downfall. But now that it‘s slowly surpassing single after single in streams, they „always loved it“.

I'm so old, I remember when Judas dropped/leaked earlier than expected. I was driving in a green dodge neon, back in April of 2011, and the radio host said this is the new song by Gaga, maybe 2 days before the actual release, and I hollered!!! I couldn't believe it. I was at the intersection of of Mt. Harmony and Route 2 in Calvert County, Maryland. I was in disbelief it leaked. Love Judas!!!! So glad to be a OG monster! 

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[AnnTakamaki 6,744]

I love the song but the mv turn me completely off 

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23 minutes ago, EvilBunny said:

Hahaha the dive bar tour was so fun, I remember being so stoked to see the livestreams. I love these special moments she creates in every era. The beginning of Chromatica era was also super exciting, I was hyperventilating when she posted new Gagavisions and was posting a lot of crazy videos on her socials (like that one with her high at the fast food hahaha). I’m really curious to see what she have in store for LG7 

Gaga is gonna give the gays everything with this era. Oh- I feel it in my fruit farm orchard. 

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[FameHookah 4,574]

Well for me it was the super aggresive vocals

 

BUT i was going thru the exactly same ( at a smaller scale) so yeah it made sense to me

 

as all the gaga songs did and are doing including Disease

 

i mean i was kinda youtube famous back then

 

(1 million subs, i pivoted and left my old content ala fame/btw shift) people just abandoned me idk 

 

her journey was  and is so close to mine (on a MUCH smaller scale) that it felt so uncomfortable To hear

 

even tho i loved it as i did every era and project

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[PartySick 146,285]

'Cause some fans are tasteless

PI is a stadium shaker

[Creyk 17,111]

Dope'd shouty vocals.

[Just A Holy Fool 2,440]

Because it’s not that great. It’s boring to me, and probably one of the worst songs on Joanne.

[Didymus 34,379]

Because some people can be honest and say it sounds like a half finished Miley song?

It's got a good base, all fans acknowledge Kevin's genius in that song. Thing is, that genius got downgraded a bit. The mix is not great, Gaga's Eastern European adjacent accent is annoying and unnecessary af, and the song just never flowers into its full potential.

[Kevbev 377]

Because it's grating