TimotheeChalamet 4,629 Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 Yeah okay, we know it flopped. Enough with these threads 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOT 2,636 Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 9 hours ago, mamo said: When I think about it, I really don't understand why Gaga decided to take on this role at all. She was offered 12m to star opposite Joaquin Phoenix in a high-profile sequel. That's 12m. And it wasn't conditional on the movie being successful. Twelve. Million. 2 1 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mamo 17,586 Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 (edited) 3 hours ago, ARTPOPSYCHOLOGY said: What a dumb post. If anything, the Venice & UK premieres had way more positive reception & hype than when it was released. If anything, it was smarter for the film to roll out to average reviews, the standing ovation, all of her media appearances, the album, Etc. the minute the basement dwelling straights saw it, it was always destined to fail. The RT score before it came out was around what the first joker was. Then it became hip and engagement pieces to **** on the movie creating the **** storm that happened. Also, Gaga signed on before the script was finished because it was her most major role in a very well known IP. She obviously didn’t know the hate it would get but 90% of the reviews commend her performance and I still think she’ll be in award conversations next year. What’s dumb is you feeling the need to reply tbh. But since you chose to respond in such a negative manner: My initial post wasn’t out of malice or hate. It was simply questioning the choices that went into the marketing and promoting of the film. It could have been executed a lot better and prevented the mess that’s happening now which is costing them millions. Also did you fall down and smack your little head on the pavement? The reception at Venice was mostly mid-negative. London was better, I’ll give you that. But Venice’s reactions were enough to taint the excitement and that’s really where the negative word-of-mouth initially set aflame. That and also the film in general being a "musical". And since we’re on the topic of "dumb", it’s a huge risk to launch a sequel to a billion dollar film a whole month earlier at Venice without having any test screenings at all. Some might consider that dumb, don’t you think? Since Joker: FAD had no test screenings whatsoever, there was no pre-warning to what the reception could be. Had there been test-screenings, maybe there was a possibility to re-edit and save the film. However, I truly believe T.P thought FAD was a masterpiece hence his refusal to show anyone the final cut. It’s truly his own fault. And it’s adorable how you still think Gaga has a shot this awards season. At most she’ll get a Golden Globe/Critics Choice nomination and even then that would be kind. If she couldn’t get nominated for House of Gucci then what makes you think the Academy would nominate her for this? Wake up. Unfortunately, I think this film has been tainted which is sad for Gaga no matter how good her performance was. Let’s just move on to LG7 already. Anyways…Ciao. Edited October 15 by mamo you can serve it to me ancient city style... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mamo 17,586 Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 2 hours ago, MOT said: She was offered 12m to star opposite Joaquin Phoenix in a high-profile sequel. That's 12m. And it wasn't conditional on the movie being successful. Twelve. Million. LMAO omg I totally forgot about that big-ass pay cheque. That would be enough to say yes for sure. Thanks for the reminder! you can serve it to me ancient city style... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTheCloset 17,753 Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 Id rather succ dicque but at least im h0rny C*m on me c*m c*m C*m on me c*m c*m Where's the spunk, Adam? 2 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThisGuyTony 28,998 Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 7 hours ago, Anderson123 said: 34 mins. So she was only in 24% of the movie Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 101,922 Posted October 15 Author Share Posted October 15 (edited) 8 hours ago, TortureMeOnReplay said: I believe it's about $300M to break even based on 200 production and 100 marketing. Where are you getting the $100M in marketing from? Usually films need 2.5 times its budget to break even, due to marketing + distribution costs, which is why film sources have been saying it needs $500M to break even. Edit: Found a source “Joker 2” cost $200 million to produce and roughly $100 million to market and distribute. At this rate, the film won’t get anywhere close to the $450 million needed to break even in its theatrical run (ticket sales are split between studios and theater owners). Sources at Warner Bros. say the movie will break even at $375 million.” So even if we take the best case scenario of $375M to break even, it will be losing up to $100M give or take. But, yeah, usually films need 2.5x which is why $450-$500M is the break even point from film sources, for anyone unfamiliar with the box office. Edited October 15 by Morphine Prince 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 101,922 Posted October 15 Author Share Posted October 15 (edited) 6 hours ago, Guillaume Hamon said: Well it's at $165M WW ( a day before the China release ) after 11 days of exploitation so I believe it will crack $200M and maybe $300M. Also I believe they make huge deals with platforms for exclusivity after the theatrical run which could help the movie to not represent a financial loss overall. https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl2339995649/?ref_=bo_hm_rd Films usually need 2.5 times its budget to break even. Which is why even at $300M total it will lose up to $200M give or take. See post above this for explanation Edited October 15 by Morphine Prince 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTPOPSYCHOLOGY 6,237 Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 21 hours ago, mamo said: What’s dumb is you feeling the need to reply tbh. But since you chose to respond in such a negative manner: My initial post wasn’t out of malice or hate. It was simply questioning the choices that went into the marketing and promoting of the film. It could have been executed a lot better and prevented the mess that’s happening now which is costing them millions. Also did you fall down and smack your little head on the pavement? The reception at Venice was mostly mid-negative. London was better, I’ll give you that. But Venice’s reactions were enough to taint the excitement and that’s really where the negative word-of-mouth initially set aflame. That and also the film in general being a "musical". And since we’re on the topic of "dumb", it’s a huge risk to launch a sequel to a billion dollar film a whole month earlier at Venice without having any test screenings at all. Some might consider that dumb, don’t you think? Since Joker: FAD had no test screenings whatsoever, there was no pre-warning to what the reception could be. Had there been test-screenings, maybe there was a possibility to re-edit and save the film. However, I truly believe T.P thought FAD was a masterpiece hence his refusal to show anyone the final cut. It’s truly his own fault. And it’s adorable how you still think Gaga has a shot this awards season. At most she’ll get a Golden Globe/Critics Choice nomination and even then that would be kind. If she couldn’t get nominated for House of Gucci then what makes you think the Academy would nominate her for this? Wake up. Unfortunately, I think this film has been tainted which is sad for Gaga no matter how good her performance was. Let’s just move on to LG7 already. Anyways…Ciao. It’s dumb for me to want to reply to a post on a public forum? Lmao. Go write in your diary if you don’t want responses. You lack the intellectual capacity to understand what the film was trying to say and the risk it took. It won’t affect Gaga in the long run. Unlike you and other award and accolade obsessed “fans” if she isn’t nominated I wouldn’t care either way. Facts remain her performance was mostly praised in reviews and people wanted more of her. She had the #1 song and movie for a period of time and remains iconic. The fact you need to write and embarassing diatribe on the failure of the movie and the possible impact on the trajectory of her career shows you should probably lay off the internet and get some air MAMO. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starmie25 12,937 Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 On 10/15/2024 at 2:44 PM, Louvre said: hope Gaga releases a statement at some point! Why would she release a statement? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockstar 18 Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 At this point she HAS to release a statement! This is a mess 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALGAYDO 29,872 Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 (edited) It’s crazy to me how Todd and WB completely dropped the ball with this film, yet Gaga keeps getting backlash for it. She was in only 34 minutes of it, her performance got rave reviews, and the movie sucked because of the director. I do feel really bad for Gaga but she probably knows the film’s failure has nothing to do with her, so she better pivot and release the single ASAP lol edit: but also, the fact that she signed on to the film BEFORE THE SCRIPT WAS EVEN FINISHED????? Gaga YOURE SMARTER THAN THIS Edited October 16 by ALGAYDO 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALGAYDO 29,872 Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 Side note: isn’t this the first time in YEARS that The Haus wasn’t involved in one of Gaga’s projects? And Sarah even “liked” shady comments about JFAD? What if her whole team advised her against this film and is why they didn’t work for her for this project? Gagagagaga Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickMonster98 7,233 Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 1 hour ago, rockstar said: At this point she HAS to release a statement! This is a mess She doesnt have to...? What could she possibly say? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brinty 83 Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 12 minutes ago, RickMonster98 said: She doesnt have to...? What could she possibly say? Hope yall enjoyed the movie as much as I did 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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