Siena 5,624 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 I enjoyed the film and have been trying to stay off social media to avoid the discourse, but was scrolling through insta and noticed this. Yikes The comment suggests it's aimed at Todd and not Gaga obvs, but that's interesting she liked it in the first place when she literally worked on the film... 22 5 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LG2008 2,960 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 You know what? It's better not to say anything 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley 57,118 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 (edited) I lost a lot of respect for Todd Phillips after this project. Very few writers write and create from that authentic place of care and love for their characters. Todd is not one of them. He is so easily swayed by the audience and studio interference, he doesn't know how to stand his ground as an artist. Bradley does, and that's why ASIB and Maestro are masterpieces even if Bradley's reputation is pretty shaky itself. Even voters who found Bradley a bit dramatic cannot deny the merit in his directing, writing and acting. Edited October 8 by Bradley 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siena 5,624 Posted October 8 Author Share Posted October 8 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Bradley said: I lost a lot of respect for Todd Phillips after this project. Very few writers write and create from that authentic place of care and love for their characters. Todd is not one of them. Bradley is, and that's why ASIB and Maestro are masterpieces even if Bradley's reputation is pretty shaky itself. I didn't watch a ton of Todd's interviews so I really don't know his mindset. However, out of all of the critiques I have seen about the film, cutting scenes that you relentlessly used for promo is the main thing I'm upset about, and doesn't seem respectful to the actor or the team. I can see how Gaga's team would feel upset that their hard work was basically just used for marketing. Edited October 8 by Siena 15 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley 57,118 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Siena said: I didn't watch a ton of Todd's interviews so I really don't know his mindset. However, out of all of the critiques I have seen about the film, cutting scenes that you relentlessly used for promo does is the main thing I'm upset about. I can see how Gaga's team would feel upset that their hard work was basically just used for marketing. Apart from that, he doesn't seem to care about Harley's complexity as a character than Joker. You can clearly see that in his writing. He builds his narrative around completely around Joker without much interest in Harley. And the whole "but the film is called Joker!" argument isn't even valid because plenty of movies centring around the male lead have been able to write very complex female leads alongside them. Todd Phillips just doesn't understand what makes a woman complex. Bradley does. In his only two attempts at directing/writing a movie, his two female leads are nominated for Oscars (Carey Mulligan for Maestro, Gaga for ASIB). Edited October 8 by Bradley 21 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rahrahbitchson 17,339 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Bradley said: Bradley does, and that's why ASIB and Maestro are masterpieces even if Bradley's reputation is pretty shaky itself. Even voters who found Bradley a bit dramatic cannot deny the merit in his directing, writing and acting. Loving how you stand and speak for yourself, the self love of it all Edited October 8 by Rahrahbitchson Quizás bastaba respirar, sólo respirar, muy lento...💙 1 42 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley 8,587 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 Wonder what their convos are like behind closed doors right now 8 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarahb 16,220 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 You don't have to enjoy everything your boss does 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALGAYDO 29,936 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 20 minutes ago, Ashley said: Wonder what their convos are like behind closed doors right now Sarah telling Gaga to quit acting and focus solely on selling makeup 24 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LG2008 2,960 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 I was confused but after reading what Todd and that WB exec said, I hope this means that Gaga's team is ready to spill some tea. I don't care if we get in a messier situation, Gaga has to distance herself from this mess asap 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
llemesm 985 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 Well she has an opinion. Also she's not directly shading Gaga. The movie sucks, but it's direction/production fault. Gaga just played a character and that has nothing to do with the final product. JFAD is not a Gaga's product, it's a Todd Phillip's movie. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LG2008 2,960 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 (edited) Double post Edited October 8 by LG2008 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodandsmile 9,759 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 Gaga did not even make a post about it being out and spent a chunk of the press tour talking about music lol... they are all probably talking sh*t about it 11 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality 71,860 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 55 minutes ago, LG2008 said: I was confused but after reading what Todd and that WB exec said, I hope this means that Gaga's team is ready to spill some tea. I don't care if we get in a messier situation, Gaga has to distance herself from this mess asap The best thing she could do to distance herself is move on to LG7, which she was planning to do anyways. I don't see any reason why she has to speak up about anything at this moment. Even taking into account Todd's and the WB exec's statement, I think most people still don't see Gaga as the problem. Most of the blame is falling on Todd and Joaquin. People are praising Gaga for the little screen time she had and/or are saying she's a victim of circumstance. 𝕀𝕗 𝕪𝕠𝕦 𝕨𝕖𝕣𝕖 𝕒 𝕤𝕚𝕟𝕟𝕖𝕣, 𝕀 𝕔𝕠𝕦𝕝𝕕 𝕞𝕒𝕜𝕖 𝕪𝕠𝕦 𝕓𝕖𝕝𝕚𝕖𝕧𝕖 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliviaRodrigoStan 4,383 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 A mess HEART OF EVER-FROST 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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