Defmix100 5,917 Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 I'm not gonna get to see the movie for about 10 days but I was wondering if anyone who has seen it could post screenshots of moments in the trailer which aren't in the film? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Mike 2,654 Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 The moment when they’re both on the stairs and lift their legs reminds me of the Mandela Effect. 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxyy 263 Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 Spoilers in my post! I feel like scenes weren't removed so much as they were changed to be less flamboyant and more dramatic or dark to set a contrast with the delusion scenes. For example, the scene of Harley singing "That's Entertainment" on the stairs before the cops rush down behind her is technically present, it's just much darker and eerie rather than loud and almost comical. The scene where she kisses a woman in front of the court house was probably exchanged either for her solo song walking in or the scene where she crashes a press briefing. 4 minutes ago, Magic Mike said: The moment when they’re both on the stairs and lift their legs reminds me of the Mandela Effect. This scene was actually cut! It's a shame because she appears pregnant so I can only assume it's another delusion scene where Joker imagines his life on the outside. 4 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,368 Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 Apparently this elevator shot was cut? 6 1 1 8 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weed 70,834 Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 when she sings with crazy eyes on the stairs when she kisses the woman and says "now we're both going to hell" Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijahfan 24,854 Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 57 minutes ago, Didymus said: Apparently this elevator shot was cut? It was, indeed. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hELXIG 41,458 Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 (edited) 6 hours ago, Didymus said: Apparently this elevator shot was cut? I've been wondering about that!! Spoiler like what the hell was that scene? An alternate ending? In the final cut she only meets him on the stairs with this haircut once and basically rejects him and they go separate ways. What was this scene where she's looking so smug in an elevator? I feel like a lot of context was lost here. Was she supposed to wreck him and then leave him while looking all smug? But they went for a more melancholic ending. I feel like they took a lot of the 'crazy' away from the character. I was waiting for a scene where Gaga really lets loose but she was just too calm and calculated. Never once was she wide-eyed, yelling, really emoting like she's lost her mind Edit: Also I originally thought when this photo came out that this must be the moment she truly becomes 'Harley', like she's finally snapped and she's accepted it Edited October 6 by Helxig I'll be myself until they fūcking close the coffin. 7 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpmMonkey 3,907 Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 3 hours ago, weed said: when she kisses the woman and says "now we're both going to hell" Inb4 LG7 got scrapped and this was supposed to be an easter egg for the release !!!2!!2!1 Joanne‘s much older sister incoming Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VOLANTIS 16,256 Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 1 hour ago, Helxig said: I've been wondering about that!! Hide contents like what the hell was that scene? An alternate ending? In the final cut she only meets him on the stairs with this haircut once and basically rejects him and they go separate ways. What was this scene where she's looking so smug in an elevator? I feel like a lot of context was lost here. Was she supposed to wreck him and then leave him while looking all smug? But they went for a more melancholic ending. I feel like they took a lot of the 'crazy' away from the character. I was waiting for a scene where Gaga really lets loose but she was just too calm and calculated. Never once was she wide-eyed, yelling, really emoting like she's lost her mind Edit: Also I originally thought when this photo came out that this must be the moment she truly becomes 'Harley', like she's finally snapped and she's accepted it In regards to your hidden content, Spoiler It irks me that in the finals fantasy scene Harley is, sort of on her knees in front of Arthur with a gun in her hand and tears in her eyes.. was Harley supposed to have shot him in some version of the movie? I'll lift you 3 inches off the ground and drag you to a meter and a half 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hELXIG 41,458 Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 8 minutes ago, VOLANTIS said: In regards to your hidden content, Hide contents It irks me that in the finals fantasy scene Harley is, sort of on her knees in front of Arthur with a gun in her hand and tears in her eyes.. was Harley supposed to have shot him in some version of the movie? Yeah I was wondering that too. There are so many moments in the movie that left me wondering Spoiler like I thought she was going to shoot him and it's like his fantasy representation of her breaking his heart and ending it Also sidenote.. in the usualy Joker/Harley story Harley is head over heels obsessed with Joker and he couldn't care either way and just uses her. I feel like they went for a kind of role-reversal switch up but it just fell flat and wasn't really obvious at all I'll be myself until they fūcking close the coffin. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VOLANTIS 16,256 Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 11 minutes ago, Helxig said: Yeah I was wondering that too. There are so many moments in the movie that left me wondering Hide contents like I thought she was going to shoot him and it's like his fantasy representation of her breaking his heart and ending it Also sidenote.. in the usualy Joker/Harley story Harley is head over heels obsessed with Joker and he couldn't care either way and just uses her. I feel like they went for a kind of role-reversal switch up but it just fell flat and wasn't really obvious at all Spoiler I would have been here for the role-reversal if they properly fleshed it out. It would have been interesting. Also so much of her character development was just an exposition dump. So she faked her way into seducing Arthur but is was secretly a psych student/enthusiast??? But as someone with profound knowledge of how insanity works she was also pretty much unaware and disinterested in Arthur's mind or persona? But also with an obsession with his joker personality's mind at the same time??? That doesn't sound like intentional manipulation but we're somehow supposed to buy that that was her intention?? lmaoooo just nobody checked on how a character works?? To me the choppiness of new characters overall just felt like fodder for the incel have a woman to hate on, served on a platter . I'll lift you 3 inches off the ground and drag you to a meter and a half 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hELXIG 41,458 Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 (edited) 1 hour ago, VOLANTIS said: Hide contents I would have been here for the role-reversal if they properly fleshed it out. It would have been interesting. Also so much of her character development was just an exposition dump. So she faked her way into seducing Arthur but is was secretly a psych student/enthusiast??? But as someone with profound knowledge of how insanity works she was also pretty much unaware and disinterested in Arthur's mind or persona? But also with an obsession with his joker personality's mind at the same time??? That doesn't sound like intentional manipulation but we're somehow supposed to buy that that was her intention?? lmaoooo just nobody checked on how a character works?? To me the choppiness of new characters overall just felt like fodder for the incel have a woman to hate on, served on a platter . You're so right. I feel like there were so many good ideas but just none of them.. popped? Idek even how to explain it. It's like they didn't show us or make us feel anything about what was going on, things just kinda happened, and we were left to piece together the storyline and context in real-time, while also being confused about 'is this really happening or in his head?' and 'I think this is the point of this scene but I'm not sure?' I know everyone is probably saying this but I really wish this movie were centered around Harley and showed her descent into madness, much like the first film did with Joker, and he was more of a side character. Or even just 50/50 screen time. That could've been SUCH a good movie. Imagine the movie introducing her and her life and showing the things that triggered her to go off the rails like the first movie did with Arthur, but it cuts back and fourth between what he's experiencing (the story of Joker FAD) and her 'origin story', and the random musical scenes actually felt like they added to the scenes, maybe it would cut in and out of them talking to each other in real life and the fantasy scenes creating juxtaposition, they could have their own singing in the background while they're talking in the dim grey scenes and the lyrics match up with their conversation, the cuts could've really popped with the crescendos of the music but they just didn't. At the very least it could've shown more of what was going on on her side of the story so it was easier to follow, instead of just having an info dump every now and again in bland dialogue, but then questioning if it's even real because 1. she's a liar and 2. some of the scenes are his fantasies. Idk it's such a wasted opportunity Edited October 6 by Helxig I'll be myself until they fūcking close the coffin. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juanlittlem 41,209 Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 2 hours ago, Helxig said: Yeah I was wondering that too. There are so many moments in the movie that left me wondering 2 hours ago, VOLANTIS said: In regards to your hidden content, Reveal hidden contents It irks me that in the finals fantasy scene Harley is, sort of on her knees in front of Arthur with a gun in her hand and tears in her eyes.. was Harley supposed to have shot him in some version of the movie? Spoiler She had already shot him before. It's almost at the beginning, right when the lawyer tells him she's lying to him. He feels the betrayal and Harley shoots him in his stomach and he kneels, they just go back to it at the end 'cause he feels the betrayal is complete. Dejare de quererte cuando un pintor sordo pinte el sonido de un pétalo al caer en el suelo de cristal de un castillo que no existe. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hELXIG 41,458 Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 Just now, Juanlittlem said: Hide contents She had already shot him before. It's almost at the beginning, right when the lawyer tells him she's lying to him. He feels the betrayal and Harley shoots him in his stomach and he kneels, they just go back to it at the end 'cause he feels the betrayal is complete. Spoiler I do remember noticing that at the time, but again it just felt confusing because if that scene was representing her betraying him, why was it shown in full at the start of the film and then only kind of.. alluded to at the end when she actually betrays him. I understood it but it just fell flat like 'oh yeah we already saw that'. It wasn't surprising or had any impact. I get that it could've been foreshadowing at the start but it didn't feel like that to me either I'll be myself until they fūcking close the coffin. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VOLANTIS 16,256 Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 45 minutes ago, Juanlittlem said: Hide contents She had already shot him before. It's almost at the beginning, right when the lawyer tells him she's lying to him. He feels the betrayal and Harley shoots him in his stomach and he kneels, they just go back to it at the end 'cause he feels the betrayal is complete. Spoiler That is true about the betrayal part but the steps where Harley finishes 'That's entertainment' with the cops surrounding them would have been a better way to set up the gunshot scene again. He absolutely did not need to be stabbed in the asylum again to reprise the gunshot fantasy imo. His ultimate undoing had nothing to do with Harley for that to be the big wrap up scene for his mind. I'll lift you 3 inches off the ground and drag you to a meter and a half Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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