lilboyblue 3,797 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 Love the album! And #15 is kind of a good round number. So happy we have Harlequin because the official soundtrack didn't give us a lot of Gaga. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShayCristoforo 10,511 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 If a Bruno Mars collab has more traction than a lead role, a companion album, and the LG7 lead… I’m gonna hibernate Get the pinot ready, because it's turtle time. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
27monster27 11,137 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 Since I'm seeing some downers in here, it's important to note that the album should get a boost from the physical release. If you want change, then on October 11th go out and buy the CD. That's my plan lol. he/him/his Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
killme89 1,124 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 4 hours ago, Plastic Flower said: Then don't open a charts-related thread? It's that simple. Some fans enjoy this stuff and it's completely fine. It’s not that simple at all , you are annoying af and your obsession with numbers and charts brings negativity and nothing more. Also don’t tell me what to do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenChromatix 2,215 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 Actually Harlequin is the best thing associated to the Joker 2 and I’m glad we have it. Top 10 would be a dream for this jazz project, but if it won’t get there it’s ok. they might say that we're crazy, but i’m just in ❤️ with u 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versace 7,860 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 2 hours ago, LordByron28 said: First of all, people need to quit throwing stones at other pop stars. Second, 143 was heavily promoted with three singles prior to release including singles with features that also flopped. Third, it’s a side project, Jazz album full of covers. It’s beautiful and I’m glad she gave it to us. Either way we got a movie, soundtrack and album out of this era that is about to segue into LG7 her main pop release and era. She also released nearly a month prior one of the biggest worldwide smashes of her career. She’s delivered performances, interviews, fashion, red carpet appearances, and even documentaries rooted in her passion for activism. It’s everything she was delivering during her TFM/BTW years. We got a new pop banger hitting us soon with a new pop album in February. She is satisfying every fan of hers throughout her career in a relatively short time frame. Only thing I hope is that the week after Halloween she delivers Kamala endorsements, speeches and performances like she did for Hillary and Biden. 2 hours ago, Reality said: I don't think it's fair to compare Harlequin to 143 though. 143 is literally Katy's pop comeback and Harlequin is an album full of jazz standards and show tunes with varying genres. This isn't a GREAT debut, but it's good/fine. I don't think she & her team expected this to be a big album anyway; it was a companion piece to the movie. If LG7 debuts at #15, sure, it wouldn't be good, but this isn't that. This is proof that you guys will read into what you wanna read when I tried wording my comment in a way to not get these replies. Please read what I typed again, I am already aware of your notions. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hijadeputa 3,482 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 It’s a movie companion. Get over it. LG7 is coming. Breathe! 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,379 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 (edited) Always hilarious to see the LMs who supposedly don't care about charts come up with a thousand and one excuses to defend bad numbers. If we don't care about commercial success and we shouldn't, then there's also no harm in describing a situation the way it is: she's underperforming. My guess is she's confused the audience too much the last decade. No one knows what they want from her anymore. The sustained consistency of entering "singer mode" along with side projects that don't highlight her uniqueness was bound to backfire some day. If she hadn't had a whole series of traditional jazz mini eras before, this Joker era could've worked but now? It was a dud idea from the start. Meanwhile other artists have claimed her interesting pop space, while she was (deliberately) antequating her brand. It's wild that her best commercial route is to keep releasing romantic ballads/duets. I sure as **** wouldn't have predicted that. Edited October 5 by Didymus 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickMonster98 7,254 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 significantly better than the other ww debuts... so i guess we'll take it top 10 would have been cute Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versace 7,860 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 (edited) 6 hours ago, Didymus said: Always hilarious to see the LMs who supposedly don't care about charts come up with a thousand and one excuses to defend bad numbers. If we don't care about commercial success and we shouldn't, then there's also no harm in describing a situation the way it is: she's underperforming. My guess is she's confused the audience too much the last decade. No one knows what they want from her anymore. The sustained consistency of entering "singer mode" along with side projects that don't highlight her uniqueness was bound to backfire some day. If she hadn't had a whole series of traditional jazz mini eras before, this Joker era could've worked but now? It was a dud idea from the start. Meanwhile other artists have claimed her interesting pop space, while she was (deliberately) antequating her brand. It's wild that her best commercial route is to keep releasing romantic ballads/duets. I sure as **** wouldn't have predicted that. I feel the GP have a preference with Gaga. They either want simple power ballads (Million Reasons, Shallow, Die With a Smile) or eccentric pop records with overall safe production that appeals to the masses (Poker Face, Bad Romance, Rain On Me). Fans like to act that songs like Poker Face and Bad Romance are these risky groundbreaking songs (I think it’s more so Gaga’s charm, persona and visuals that were groundbreaking/unique), when in reality the songs were bound to be hits from how catchy they were. Whenever Gaga doesn’t lean fully into one of these 2 directions, she somehow underperforms commercially albeit for her standards or fan expectations. Again not that commercial success is all that matters. Excited for LG7 no matter the commercial outcome. Edited October 5 by Versace 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Panda 7,598 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 At least Gaga has a Metacritic streak of green (high) album ratings. 3 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy scheisse 21,611 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 (edited) 7 hours ago, Didymus said: Always hilarious to see the LMs who supposedly don't care about charts come up with a thousand and one excuses to defend bad numbers. If we don't care about commercial success and we shouldn't, then there's also no harm in describing a situation the way it is: she's underperforming. My guess is she's confused the audience too much the last decade. No one knows what they want from her anymore. The sustained consistency of entering "singer mode" along with side projects that don't highlight her uniqueness was bound to backfire some day. If she hadn't had a whole series of traditional jazz mini eras before, this Joker era could've worked but now? It was a dud idea from the start. Meanwhile other artists have claimed her interesting pop space, while she was (deliberately) antequating her brand. It's wild that her best commercial route is to keep releasing romantic ballads/duets. I sure as **** wouldn't have predicted that. I kinda agree with all that you said she’s spent a decade trying to be a jack of all trades renaissance woman who can do it all… pop, jazz, acting, etc. That’s fun and all but it makes you good/average at a lot but an expert at nothing… not knocking her or saying harlequin is bad or she is untalented. Just that she switches lanes so much that it’s like… you can’t really get invested or overly excited bc she is always giving you something different and it might be completely opposite to the last thing she gave you which you loved. meanwhile acts like Lana, charli xcx, Ariana, etc are making generally the same sort of music they’ve always made only it keeps elevating and elevating through consistency Edited October 5 by holy scheisse 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creyk 17,001 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 Her audience does not want jazz music from her, plain and simple. Just look at the streaming numbers. Hopefully she takes notice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nATAH 42,314 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 17 hours ago, HIM820 said: Her team was just bragging how they treated DWAS's release like an album which helped with its success. Well where was that planning here? Her monthly listeners and a new popular single should be helping the album but I think the movie is just ruining it. Even the song selection here compared to her previous 2 jazz albums is more audience friendly due to their popularity so this is really sad. Was it super last minute or something? her team wasn't bragging, it was interscope, who aren't handling this release mother, what must i do? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nATAH 42,314 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 4 hours ago, holy scheisse said: Lana ... Ariana, etc are making generally the same sort of music they’ve always made only it keeps elevating and elevating through consistency lol is it? mother, what must i do? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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