Chappell Roan cancels her appearance at All Things Go festival on Saturday

[Cameltoe Chariot 14,415]

1 hour ago, Morphine Prince said:

This is a wild statement. 

If she is a public figure and decides to make statements about whatever topic (and especially politics) she can’t expect the public not to react. 

If she can’t handle backlash or the amount of attention/demand she is getting she needs to step back and re-evaluate her career choices and seek counseling for mental health etc. 

WE are not responsible for HER ACTIONS. People need to learn to take accountability. 

 

She's also not responsible for the public's lack of reading comprehension or media literacy either 

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2 hours ago, Roughhouse Dandy said:

It takes a good team and great mental health to sustain yourself as a notable figure these days and I hope she finds both if she decides to continue with this career path. Despite the bs, I'm wishing her well through it.

Agreed. Fame is not a natural space to be in, so few people have it when compared to the population of the rest of the world and we’ve seen it eat people alive before. I’m sure it’a very strange experience to have. 

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12 minutes ago, Cameltoe Chariot said:

 

She's also not responsible for the public's lack of reading comprehension or media literacy either 

This has nothing to do with media literacy. She said the Democratic party has "failed every marginalized community in the world." She's absolutely wrong about that. I know you pay attention to US politics and have seen how Republicans talk about minority groups and the kinds of policies they pursue. The difference between the two parties couldn't be clearer. The LGBT community - to say nothing of any other marginalized group, since I'm in that community myself and have lived what I'm saying - would be significantly worse off if it wasn't for the Democratic party.

She's been equivocating the two parties since her first awful statement on this topic, and it just shows me she has no idea what she's talking about. As a celebrity she has a platform whether she likes it or not, and she needs to learn to be more responsible with it and quickly.

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Good riddance. She hasn’t acknowledged her support of Gaga. 

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26 minutes ago, Cameltoe Chariot said:

 

She's also not responsible for the public's lack of reading comprehension or media literacy either 

How much media literacy does it take to pronounce the Vice Presidents name?

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Just now, PoshLife said:

This has nothing to do with media literacy. She said the Democratic party has "failed every marginalized community in the world." She's absolutely wrong about that. I know you pay attention to US politics and have seen how Republicans talk about minority groups and the kinds of policies they pursue. The difference between the two parties couldn't be clearer. The LGBT community - to say nothing of any other marginalized group, since I'm in that community myself and have lived what I'm saying - would be significantly worse off if it wasn't for the Democratic party.

She's been equivocating the two parties since her first awful statement on this topic, and it just shows me she has no idea what she's talking about. As a celebrity she has a platform whether she likes it or not, and she needs to learn to be more responsible with it and quickly.

Criticizing the failures of the democratic party, especially as a queer person, does not automatically equate to endorsing the republicans OR encouraging people not to vote.

She said she refused to flat out endorse Kamala because she doesn't agree with her platform's approach to Palestine, trans rights and protections for the LGBTQ+ community. All issues that have escalated or have been legislated against under Biden/Kamala.

No one is BLAMING the democrats for these things occurring, but Chappell and everyone else critcizing them for their inaction is fully within their right.

She's telling people to vote LOCAL, to pay attention to what's happening on a state level, and then through that action help shape a more diverse and progressive democratic party.

Focusing solely on the president during the election is what ultimately gets America into a constant stalemate, because even though Biden won the last round, the fall of Roe V Wade, laws against trans health care, and so many other harmful policies against the queer community happened under his watch. And he couldn't, or wouldn't, do anything to stop it.

No offence intended, but when you say that her words "show you that she has no idea what she's talking about" makes me think you're either interpreting her words through a very emotional and reactive lens, or that it's YOU that has no idea what you're talking about.

Chappell's been clear as day from the jump and the constant willful misinterpretation is quite frankly disturbing at this point.

[Cameltoe Chariot 14,415]

7 minutes ago, FATCAT said:

How much media literacy does it take to pronounce the Vice Presidents name?

How much media literacy does it take to realize a mispronunciation can occur?

How much media literacy does it take to realize how insane it is to assume this mispronunciation was on purpose when it's coming from a radically left lesbian artist currently putting her career on the line for Palestine, when even our own fave has stayed relatively quiet on the issue?

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2 minutes ago, Cameltoe Chariot said:

How much media literacy does it take to realize a mispronunciation can occur?

How much media literacy does it take to realize how insane it is to assume this mispronunciation was on purpose when it's coming from a radically left lesbian artist currently putting her career on the line for Palestine, when even our own fave has stayed relatively quiet on the issue?

I'm saying that there wasn't any nuance or forethought to her posting it. Clearly through her actions and statements she doesn't know what she's talking about.  If anyone can be accused of not thinking things through, its her.

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19 minutes ago, pachinko said:

Good riddance. She hasn’t acknowledged her support of Gaga. 

Yeah I'm sure Gaga would love people behaving like you.

Truly toxic stan nonsense.

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Maybe she is being overbooked but that’s probably out of her control. I would imagine her management/label want her to work as much as possible. I hope she’s able to find a good balance.

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4 minutes ago, FATCAT said:

I'm saying that there wasn't any nuance or forethought to her posting it. Clearly through her actions and statements she doesn't know what she's talking about.  If anyone can be accused of not thinking things through, its her.

This is what I'm hung up on - I understood her perfectly from the jump, as did a lot of other people from the queer community. Ethel Cain literally just defended her yesterday, and she's a trans woman from the bible belt for f*ck's sake.

If she had been more careless with her words or said something problematic I would understand why her statements upset people, but this is reading like a combination of poor media literacy, willful misinterpretation and an organized dogpiling of a rising star by jealous fanbases and fickle internet circles.

Just my observation, but it seems that you and a lot of other people are speaking from a very judgemental and angry perspective about Chappell, and it doesn't match what she has said and done. Almost like you *want* to be mad at her, even after she's explained herself multiple times.

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Y'all have NO idea how much pressure she's experiencing and how crushing the weight of immense fame is. The expectations are INSANE she went from Bar/theatre gigs to the VMAs and Festivals pretty much within the span of a year at the age of like 25. Add the pressure of EVERYONE intentionally misunderstanding every breath she utters. Literally bone crushing. This profession (Musicianship) should not come with the weight of the world on her shoulders, and it's time we ALL cut EVERYONE in this profession some slack. They are JUST people. Not some impervious entities that can withstand anything thrown at them indefinitely.

 

TLDR: LEAVE CHAPPELL ALONE

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1 minute ago, Cameltoe Chariot said:

This is what I'm hung up on - I understood her perfectly from the jump, as did a lot of other people from the queer community. Ethel Cain literally just defended her yesterday, and she's a trans woman from the bible belt for f*ck's sake.

If she had been more careless with her words or said something problematic I would understand why her statements upset people, but this is reading like a combination of poor media literacy, willful misinterpretation and an organized dogpiling of a rising star by jealous fanbases and fickle internet circles.

Just my observation, but it seems that you and a lot of other people are speaking from a very judgemental and angry perspective about Chappell, and it doesn't match what she has said and done. Almost like you *want* to be mad at her, even after she's explained herself multiple times.

I'm not angry with her at all, I love her music, I'm just disappointed that she didn't look into these topics before speaking on them. The doubling down doesn't help, especially when her explanation/response is filled with holes and missteps, something she could have taken her time with & had checked.

[Cameltoe Chariot 14,415]

2 minutes ago, FATCAT said:

I'm not angry with her at all, I love her music, I'm just disappointed that she didn't look into these topics before speaking on them. The doubling down doesn't help, especially when her explanation/response is filled with holes and missteps, something she could have taken her time with & had checked.

What topics did she "fail to look into" before speaking on them? These are the issues she's spoken about:

- Despite electing Biden and pushing out Trump, the Democrats failed to enshrine abortion rights and the toppling of Roe V Wade by the Supreme Court.

- Under a Democratic presidency, trans health care was either outlawed or restricted in Republican states.

- Under a Democratic presidency, abortion access and reproductive care was essentially outlawed or restricted in Republican states.

- Under a Democratic presidency, the United States has been the biggest supplier of weapons used in a modern genocide, and Kamala has pledged her commitment to Israel if she wins the election to further aid their violence.

I really don't care if there are "holes and missteps" in her statements, because at the end of the day she is a lesbian from a red state that is outnumbered by Republican family members and neighbours. And all while everyone is screaming at her to vote for Kamala, she's merely pointing out that IT DOESN'T F*CKING MATTER IF YOU DON'T LIVE IN A BLUE STATE because they Republicans are still going to attack LOCALLY, and every chest pounding Democrat doesn't give a flying f*ck unless it's happening to them too.

I really don't understand what is so complicated or controversial about this. She said she's voting for Kamala because a vote from Trump is obviously worse, but that we need to demand better from our leaders and not just let them hold us hostage every election with the threat of rights being taken away.

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2 hours ago, Morphine Prince said:

This is a wild statement. 

If she is a public figure and decides to make statements about whatever topic (and especially politics) she can’t expect the public not to react. 

If she can’t handle backlash or the amount of attention/demand she is getting she needs to step back and re-evaluate her career choices and seek counseling for mental health etc. 

WE are not responsible for HER ACTIONS. People need to learn to take accountability. 

Don't try to gaslight and switch the topic lol. Someone speaking doesn't mean they are not worthy of kind treatment.