Chappell Roan diagnosed w/ depression + brain fog

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Some of you...  just sad to read.

 

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Her erratic behavior lately made me think she was possibly playing a character and truly acting out the rise and fall of a Midwestern princess. If this is why she really needs to take some time off.

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3 hours ago, DrKindnessKunt1999 said:

As someone who suffers from brain fog, how do you treat brain fog? Is there specific medication that could help or would having therapy help it? 

Both can help. Brain fog is a symptom of MANY different mental health or even physical issues, it's hard to diagnose and treat by itself. You need to speak to your physician to start getting help with it, who can refer you to a therapist or psychiatrist. Brain fog is a symptom of depression, anxiety, bipolar, ADHD, etc. So nobody can just say you need x medication immediately because that medication could possibly not work well with whatever your symptom's root cause is. Ex: Anti-depressants can worsen bipolar by themselves, and can endanger the patient's life and even the public. 

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Where are all those people who were trash talking her in that thread the other day? 

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3 hours ago, Chlorine said:

So good luck babe 

Making jokes/making fun of someone for disclosing their mental illness is kinda gross and cruel tbh… 

[Shyane 1,531]

She should take her time off and go to therapy.

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10 minutes ago, bowlsofbrett said:

Where are all those people who were trash talking her in that thread the other day? 

Here babes . Her diagnosis doesn't shield her from criticism, and most of what was being criticized about her in that thread, was valid. 

Azealia Banks is bipolar too, and nobody excuses her calling Zayn Malik a racial slur, because of it. I saw a clip of Chappell Roan yesterday were she threw a tantrum on stage, and was extremely rude to a crew member, because of a minor wardrobe malfunction (that wasn't even that serious, it was just a removable skirt, that got stuck, is not like she was naked underneath). 

That makes her unlikeable to me. And I do think it is an an attitude worthy of negative criticism, regardless of her personal issues. 

Her mental health is something for herself, and her close ones, to discuss, consider and adress. Not me. 

She's a public figure, if she acts stupid, she acts stupid, period. Like I said on that thread, I think it would be on her best interest to reduce her exposure to situations she's not prepared for. 

She can do her music, play her shows, and reduce the extra exposure (interviews, awards, etc). I do understand the struggle, as the industry is unforgiving. 

But me understanding her situation =/= me thinking she should be automatically excused for everything, because of a diagnosis. 

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2 hours ago, OliviaRodrigoStan said:

Here babes . Her diagnosis doesn't shield her from criticism, and most of what was being criticized about her in that thread, was valid. 

Azealia Banks is bipolar too, and nobody excuses her calling Zayn Malik a racial slur, because of it. I saw a clip of Chappell Roan yesterday were she threw a tantrum on stage, and was extremely rude to a crew member, because of a minor wardrobe malfunction (that wasn't even that serious, it was just a removable skirt, that got stuck, is not like she was naked underneath). 

That makes her unlikeable to me. And I do think it is an an attitude worthy of negative criticism, regardless of her personal issues. 

Her mental health is something for herself, and her close ones, to discuss, consider and adress. Not me. 

She's a public figure, if she acts stupid, she acts stupid, period. Like I said on that thread, I think it would be on her best interest to reduce her exposure to situations she's not prepared for. 

She can do her music, play her shows, and reduce the extra exposure (interviews, awards, etc). I do understand the struggle, as the industry is unforgiving. 

But me understanding her situation =/= me thinking she should be automatically excused for everything, because of a diagnosis. 

I feel like you don't understand, despite claiming to. Everyone is acting like they know for sure Chapell can even decide she's not gonna do x y z event because she's not feeling well. The Lollapalooza event was probably booked months ago (the wardrobe event you're referencing) and would have probably cost her millions to back out of. It was a hot day in Chicago and I don't blame her for being overstimulated. You have no clue what she was feeling when her clothes were being tugged at like that, and it's quite possible she felt some kind of ripping or tension she's not supposed to feel, which could have resulted in indecent exposure. Her team also should have been prepared for the wardrobe change. All in front of the biggest Lollapalooza crowd ever seen at the event. 

 

I also don't think it's fair to compare her to Azealia. Azealia has been in the industry for nearly 15 years and never knew how to act, stardom or not. Nor has she given any sort of consistency on boundaries or anything of the likes. Additionally, every single one of her current problems can be solved by hiring a social media manager. Chapell is consistently being filmed in awkward or shitty situations where there's a bunch of pressure and she's being a human being with emotions rather than a puppet. She's not starting fights or attacking anybody in any of these situations. You don't think Gaga had any situations like that? Or do you think she was just lucky in her time, where the only cameras in the room were ones her team had editing power over and photo cameras from the Paparazzi? 

 

Personally I don't blame Chapell. None of us know how she feels right now. And none of us know what she's being forced to do contractually and what she's willingly doing herself. She's not the first or last pop star to complain about how she's being worked. Gaga, Doja, etc all have made these same claims. I think it's easy to hate on her because she's being filmed in shitty situations, but we have a severe lack of context in most. I know I haven't always reacted 100% rationally at work, especially in high pressure situations. And I don't think you'd be able to claim you've always acted perfectly at your work either. I can't imagine being around 1,000s of people who are there to see me, who all have a personal camera, pointed at me while I'm supposed to entertain them. Yes it's her job, but it's essentially equivalent to being promoted from the bottom of your job's ladder to being near the top within 3-4 months and you're automatically expected to know every routine, response, behavior, and process on your first day. 

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Glad that she's only got 4 or 5 shows left marked on her calendar. 

A massive jolt of success and overnight having your life completely change is hell enough if you have mental health issues. Being then stuck in the public eye for months by your record label can only make it worse tbh. 

It goes without saying that diagnosed mental health conditions are not an excuse for acting out etc. But they are also why people should be shown empathy and given the chance to heal. 

Some truly disgusting comments and attitudes on this thread in relation to mental health. Completely lack of humility, empathy or any form of humanity by some people here. Should be ashamed of yourselves. 

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4 hours ago, TortureMeOnReplay said:

Everyone is acting like they know for sure Chapell can even decide she's not gonna do x y z event because she's not feeling well. The Lollapalooza event was probably booked months ago (the wardrobe event you're referencing) and would have probably cost her millions to back out of.

She is an adult. And was diagnosed 2 years ago with a condition that requires supervision, and sometimes medication. 

Is not like she just found out her mental health was fragile last week. She has been unstable for a long time, has been formally diagnosed for at least two years, and still decided, as an adult, to step on the spotlight, and put herself in these highly stressful scenarios. 

4 hours ago, TortureMeOnReplay said:

You have no clue what she was feeling when her clothes were being tugged at like that, and it's quite possible she felt some kind of ripping or tension she's not supposed to feel, which could have resulted in indecent exposure.

Neither do you. It's also quite possible that she was just being rude, as she has been on different occasions. Chappell Roan is just a musician, I have no reason to give her grace and assume she is a victim in every situation. 

I saw her being deliberately hostile to a person that was just doing their job, and I think of her, the same thing I would think of any other person engaging in a similar manner to any worker. 

4 hours ago, TortureMeOnReplay said:

I also don't think it's fair to compare her to Azealia.

I do. They have the same diagnosis, and there is no sympathy towards Azealia's transgressions. When she screws up, she's dragged. 

I don't see why it should be any different for Chappell Roan. Azealia is more heavily criticized, because her transgressions are bolder. But I don't think criticizing Chappell Roan's poor behaviour is "unfair". 

Katy Perry has been very public about dealing with depression during her "Witness" release, and I highly doubt she's having an easy time now with the universal backlash she's receiving. I don't see any resemblance of sympathy towards her, anywhere. And you guys can scream "Dr Luke" as loud as you want, but if you think Chappell Roan reached this level of stardom by exclusively interacting with morally immaculate individuals, you're being naive. 

5 hours ago, TortureMeOnReplay said:

I know I haven't always reacted 100% rationally at work, especially in high pressure situations. And I don't think you'd be able to claim you've always acted perfectly at your work either

Of course not, that's why I never in my life expected for others to excuse my behaviour, using my mental health as a shield against valid criticism. Whenever I screwed up, I screwed up, and if I'm rightfully criticized, I take accountability and move on. 

It does not appear to me that Chappell Roan expects to be excused for her behaviour based on her diagnosis. But some of her fans here seem to believe so. 

No, I will not "apologize" for calling her rude, when she's rude. I have made mistakes in my life, in many of which cases my mental health played a role. 

Still, the idea of my actions being excused for it, never crossed my mind. I can be sympathetic towards the position in which she's in, and still find her behaviour to be questionable. 

I doubt Justin Bieber was mentally stable during most of his controversies, he reached much bigger stardom, at a much younger age, and was mercilessly dragged each and everytime he did something stupid in public. It seems to me that this sort of empathy and emotional wisdom, only manifests when it comes to adressing a celebrity whose music the fandom enjoys.

I have no doubts that stardom must be incredibly difficult to deal with. But it is also truth that the benefits of it are much more rewarding than that of... most work fields I would say. 

She is now privileged to a degree 99% of the population will never be. Of course she is still a human being, and is allowed to discuss her struggles. 

But at the end of the day, it is a career path that she chose. And I completely disagree with the notion that criticizing her behaviour is either evil or unacceptable, because of her diagnosis. 

Being CRUEL towards her, is unacceptable. Criticizing her when she's being rude, is not cruel. 

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8 hours ago, OliviaRodrigoStan said:

Here babes . Her diagnosis doesn't shield her from criticism, and most of what was being criticized about her in that thread, was valid. 

Azealia Banks is bipolar too, and nobody excuses her calling Zayn Malik a racial slur, because of it. I saw a clip of Chappell Roan yesterday were she threw a tantrum on stage, and was extremely rude to a crew member, because of a minor wardrobe malfunction (that wasn't even that serious, it was just a removable skirt, that got stuck, is not like she was naked underneath). 

That makes her unlikeable to me. And I do think it is an an attitude worthy of negative criticism, regardless of her personal issues. 

Her mental health is something for herself, and her close ones, to discuss, consider and adress. Not me. 

She's a public figure, if she acts stupid, she acts stupid, period. Like I said on that thread, I think it would be on her best interest to reduce her exposure to situations she's not prepared for. 

She can do her music, play her shows, and reduce the extra exposure (interviews, awards, etc). I do understand the struggle, as the industry is unforgiving. 

But me understanding her situation =/= me thinking she should be automatically excused for everything, because of a diagnosis. 

That wardrobe malfunction video is such a nothing burger. Genuinely can’t believe people are trying to make something out of that lmao 

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55 minutes ago, OliviaRodrigoStan said:

She is an adult. And was diagnosed 2 years ago with a condition that requires supervision, and sometimes medication. 

Is not like she just found out her mental health was fragile last week. She has been unstable for a long time, has been formally diagnosed for at least two years, and still decided, as an adult, to step on the spotlight, and put herself in these highly stressful scenarios. 

Neither do you. It's also quite possible that she was just being rude, as she has been on different occasions. Chappell Roan is just a musician, I have no reason to give her grace and assume she is a victim in every situation. 

I saw her being deliberately hostile to a person that was just doing their job, and I think of her, the same thing I would think of any other person engaging in a similar manner to any worker. 

I do. They have the same diagnosis, and there is no sympathy towards Azealia's transgressions. When she screws up, she's dragged. 

I don't see why it should be any different for Chappell Roan. Azealia is more heavily criticized, because her transgressions are bolder. But I don't think criticizing Chappell Roan's poor behaviour is "unfair". 

Katy Perry has been very public about dealing with depression during her "Witness" release, and I highly doubt she's having an easy time now with the universal backlash she's receiving. I don't see any resemblance of sympathy towards her, anywhere. And you guys can scream "Dr Luke" as loud as you want, but if you think Chappell Roan reached this level of stardom by exclusively interacting with morally immaculate individuals, you're being naive. 

Of course not, that's why I never in my life expected for others to excuse my behaviour, using my mental health as a shield against valid criticism. Whenever I screwed up, I screwed up, and if I'm rightfully criticized, I take accountability and move on. 

It does not appear to me that Chappell Roan expects to be excused for her behaviour based on her diagnosis. But some of her fans here seem to believe so. 

No, I will not "apologize" for calling her rude, when she's rude. I have made mistakes in my life, in many of which cases my mental health played a role. 

Still, the idea of my actions being excused for it, never crossed my mind. I can be sympathetic towards the position in which she's in, and still find her behaviour to be questionable. 

I doubt Justin Bieber was mentally stable during most of his controversies, he reached much bigger stardom, at a much younger age, and was mercilessly dragged each and everytime he did something stupid in public. It seems to me that this sort of empathy and emotional wisdom, only manifests when it comes to adressing a celebrity whose music the fandom enjoys.

I have no doubts that stardom must be incredibly difficult to deal with. But it is also truth that the benefits of it are much more rewarding than that of... most work fields I would say. 

She is now privileged to a degree 99% of the population will never be. Of course she is still a human being, and is allowed to discuss her struggles. 

But at the end of the day, it is a career path that she chose. And I completely disagree with the notion that criticizing her behaviour is either evil or unacceptable, because of her diagnosis. 

Being CRUEL towards her, is unacceptable. Criticizing her when she's being rude, is not cruel. 

Interestingly enough, you say Chapell chose to work in the public eye despite her diagnosis, but she was actually signed 4 years ago, dropped, and signed again in early 2022. Which would have likely had her signed by the time she was diagnosed. So she didn't just step into the spotlight knowing of her diagnosis. And it's quite possible she signed a record deal in a manic phase anyways. I can't say I know exactly how Chapell feels, but I do have a little bit of an inkling. 

 

That said, I don't think we really need to discuss any further. Trying to use Justin and Katy as examples of why you don't find it necessary to show Chapell compassion is weird. Justin was a child, and yes I prayed on his downfall from fame as a child because I was naive and a hater. That's changed since, and I really wish he would have had a protective figure in his life. I also wasn't on the internet expressing that's too damn bad. Katy is working with a r@pist, her enabling behavior and blatant disregard for victims makes me not feel too much sympathy for her failures now. If you think financially providing for a r@pist and allowing him a platform is equal to a woman telling a man "you shut the **** up" after being told to shut the **** up or yanking her clothes from somebody's hands is equal you desperately need to check your morals. I also wanna provide for the record that I like way more of Katy's discography than I do any of Chapell's (I like none of Chapell's music) so really your whole theory about defending our faves goes out the window. 

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17 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

That wardrobe malfunction video is such a nothing burger. Genuinely can’t believe people are trying to make something out of that lmao 

The entire Chapell hate train rides on the fact that some random person records 10 second videos of an out of context moment hoping to go viral at an individual's expense. People are quick to jump on her and it's actually kind of sad. 

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56 minutes ago, TortureMeOnReplay said:

The entire Chapell hate train rides on the fact that some random person records 10 second videos of an out of context moment hoping to go viral at an individual's expense. People are quick to jump on her and it's actually kind of sad. 

Agreed. It’s so transparently distaste looking for a reason, it’s honestly pathetic. 

[Shyane 1,531]

I don't know her condition but here's my thoughts. If she was diagnosed with depression before, it does not mean she's still currently depressed. Is she currently still depressed? The brain fog thing she mentioned is a part of the depression but it's not a neurological condition. She stated that her depression is severe but she seems to still function. Mental health problem can be so debilitating that one cannot function but she's still working. I read a report and it looks like she's trying to say she's depressed because of the fame. How do other pop girls cope with the situation? She's clearly not coping well. I understand as a famous person, it is difficult at the beginning as you need additional protection for your privacy but she seems to complain a lot more than other people or her peers who are more famous than her.