JohnnyVersace 8,776 Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 Been thinking this for a while now! People who shout that Gaga should work with RedOne, Tara Savello, DJWS, etc. are missing the point. Gaga is an artist who works with longtime collaborators (Freddy, Nicola, Bobby) that she trusts, and new people as she moves forward. Regressing back to former collaborators would likely not allow her to push forward and create the art she wants. My opinion with Gaga is just enjoy what she gives you because it's highly intentional. Clamoring for what could have been is just a waste of time and energy. We're about to likely get something that Gesaffelstein has touched, we don't need RedOne right now lol 3 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doraemon 918 Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 Katy Perry Struggles to Reclaim Past Glory on the Flat ‘143’: Album Review "'143' strips away the remnants of the perky personality that catapulted [Katy] Perry into early 2010s superstardom. The album is flat, coasting on cascades of lyrical cliches and musical ideas that rarely crest." Read the full album review here: https://variety.com/2024/music/album-reviews/katy-perry-143-album-review-1236151356/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxyy 292 Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 5 hours ago, VOLANTIS said: Not RedOne being dragged through the mud bc Katy and Luke are working together. The main difference you're all forgetting is Gaga is constantly evolving. I believe if they work together they could still repeat the PF and BR success but that's just my opinion. Gaga evolves but does RedOne? I've not heard much of his other work but everything I have heard sounds kind of dated and not varied enough. I would love for her to work with somebody she never has before. Or flex her own production muscles! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibraLove 1,243 Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 8 hours ago, SashaxBzns said: The fact that Katy reunited with her old producer just to make... that... I think I'm done wanting Gaga to reunite with RedOne, you can never fully recreate the magic again. There's a lot of parameters that come into play other than having the two people in the studio. Even Max Martin and the felon couldn't save 143 Who is the felon???? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SashaxBzns 498 Posted September 20 Author Share Posted September 20 4 hours ago, JohnnyVersace said: Been thinking this for a while now! People who shout that Gaga should work with RedOne, Tara Savello, DJWS, etc. are missing the point. Gaga is an artist who works with longtime collaborators (Freddy, Nicola, Bobby) that she trusts, and new people as she moves forward. Regressing back to former collaborators would likely not allow her to push forward and create the art she wants. My opinion with Gaga is just enjoy what she gives you because it's highly intentional. Clamoring for what could have been is just a waste of time and energy. We're about to likely get something that Gesaffelstein has touched, we don't need RedOne right now lol you know what? you gagged me 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nATAH 42,261 Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 4 hours ago, JohnnyVersace said: My opinion with Gaga is just enjoy what she gives you because it's highly intentional. Clamoring for what could have been is just a waste of time and energy. NAILED IT!! mother, what must i do? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaTheExplorer 2,707 Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 11 hours ago, SashaxBzns said: The fact that Katy reunited with her old producer just to make... that... I think I'm done wanting Gaga to reunite with RedOne, you can never fully recreate the magic again. There's a lot of parameters that come into play other than having the two people in the studio. Even Max Martin and the felon couldn't save 143 Gurl you know damn well this wouldn't be the same scenario 1. Nadir aint a rah-pist 2. Gaga is the one who brings the magic out of RedOne, so we would be fine I hope they reconect someday and give us a few more classics, but not trying to revive her past glory days a la katy, but show showing us their evolution Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HausOfAntonio 7,995 Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 She didn’t realise it was Bonnie McKee and not Dr. L*ke who made her early career bangers. That’s who she should’ve reunited with. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VOLANTIS 16,289 Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 16 hours ago, Forlorn said: Gaga evolves but does RedOne? I've not heard much of his other work but everything I have heard sounds kind of dated and not varied enough. I would love for her to work with somebody she never has before. Or flex her own production muscles! Well to be fair I feel like when she first started she did not have much control over the production of her songs. But as Gaga and RedOne worked era after era, their collaborations also evolved with her equally contributing. You can see it in her TF era interviews with how they made Just Dance and then later on when she worked with him on BR. RedOne is mostly working with newer artists. (Using the term "mostly" loosely here). But imo labels often just pair him with new artists as a stepping stone for their exposure. But once he develops a closer relationship with people he works with, you can see growth in their work. Sure it may sound dated at times but you can see the artist's direction on it too. I'll lift you 3 inches off the ground and drag you to a meter and a half 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creyk 17,000 Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 I fully believe they would create amazing bangers if they worked together again. But sadly it is never going to happen. Oh and by the way a RedOne produced song just crossed 1 billion streams yesterday so it's not like he only makes hits with Gaga. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gstring 1,859 Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 On 9/20/2024 at 4:12 PM, SashaxBzns said: The fact that Katy reunited with her old producer just to make... that... I think I'm done wanting Gaga to reunite with RedOne, you can never fully recreate the magic again. There's a lot of parameters that come into play other than having the two people in the studio. Even Max Martin and the felon couldn't save 143 i mean in 2016 Gaga and red one create angel down, they still could create their magic.. just in different uniform Little little Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,008 Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 Keeping with the same producers always makes your sound stale after a few albums. Most producers go through a golden period where they can do no wrong but lose their touch over time. And yes, RedOne was not immune to that, except for when he made Ava Max's Kings And Queens. He doesn't really make much music at all these days either likely because he knew he'd had his peak. Even if it hadn't been for the allegations, Dr Luke was likely due to stand having a dip in popularity and we can see his recent output with Katy is such a low level of quality to what he once did. Max Martin is also not quite as amazing as he used to be. There's a reason why the most popular producers of the day (for those too young to remember, names like JellyBean Beneitez and Stock, Aitken and Waterman used to be the biggest names in the 80's) end up fading away never to be heard of again. When a particular sound is no longer popular, they flounder and struggle to adapt. Yes, Gaga and RedOne make magic together but she's always developing as an artist and can't stay in a comfort zone for too long. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
27monster27 11,107 Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 On 9/20/2024 at 5:31 AM, Head Empty said: What's wrong with being tired and dated, why would you call me out like this On 9/20/2024 at 5:22 AM, Rat Boy said: Also why we shouldn’t want ARTPOP Act II - it would sound tired and dated I'm okay with Act II for a "what could've been" sense, maybe similar to Taylors vault tracks? Releasing it nowadays should not be for charts, just for fun. he/him/his Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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