something to learn from 143

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I don’t think they’re comparable at all…in my opinion 143 isn’t that bad quality of an album. It’s pretty bland, but the production (unfortunately) has a lot of good moments because he is a veteran. It’s hard to listen to tho knowing he produced the tracks, therefore it’s not really an enjoyable, love-channeling experience like she says she wanted it to be. If Gaga and RedOne worked together again there wouldn’t be any controversy around it and he’d probably be forced to push his own boundaries again

[nATAH 48,214]

i would be interested to hear what red and Gaga come up with these days but not for an entire record, just a droplet song

i much prefer when she works with totally new people every few albums, it always keeps things fresh and energized

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2 hours ago, SashaxBzns said:

The fact that Katy reunited with her old producer just to make... that... 

I think I'm done wanting Gaga to reunite with RedOne, you can never fully recreate the magic again. There's a lot of parameters that come into play other than having the two people in the studio. Even Max Martin and the felon couldn't save 143

let's not drag poor max into this trainwreck pls, he only worked on one song and is like 7th person credited so he barely touched it 

Edited September 20, 2024 by salty like sodium

[Hyoha 1,613]

I honestly think Gaga is immune to this kind of problem. She could do a RedOne collab through an entire album and it would be amazing. RedOne isn't known to be an abuser, either.

[Chromatislaps 34,840]

6 hours ago, SashaxBzns said:

The fact that Katy reunited with her old producer just to make... that... 

I think I'm done wanting Gaga to reunite with RedOne, you can never fully recreate the magic again. There's a lot of parameters that come into play other than having the two people in the studio. Even Max Martin and the felon couldn't save 143

its rare, but it is possible to have that magic consecutively, you can see it with Mj and Quincy Jones's Off The Wall, Thriller and Bad. But it doesn't happen often. I do believe Gaga and RedOne have some type of magic. Gypsy eventhough produced by Madeon, was written with RedOne at first. I think the makings of amazing songs lie always with Gaga first, and RedOne somehow knows to distill the magic make the most catchy hooks with her.

Edited September 20, 2024 by Chromatislaps

[buzzkill 5,149]

things can always gets worse

[Bonkiii 585]

Gaga should look at Björk and fka twigs

[Anderson123 38,108]

The one thing to learn from this is that Gaga was the mastermind behind her music. As much as I love RedOne he was never able to make another Poker Face, Bad Romance, Judas, Scheiße with all of the people he worked with at that time. I'm sure that if they got together again right now and something good worked out for an album it'd be because of Gaga's vision and creativity.

I mean I'm glad Gaga likes switching producers to keep her ideas fresh and they also deserve credit and at least we got Gypsy and Angel Down but yeah, Katy seems more like the type of popstar that is told what to do and it's mostly Dr. Luke and her team making all the magic for her albums.

[monketsharona 79,870]

6 hours ago, SashaxBzns said:

The fact that Katy reunited with her old producer just to make... that... 

I think I'm done wanting Gaga to reunite with RedOne, you can never fully recreate the magic again. There's a lot of parameters that come into play other than having the two people in the studio. Even Max Martin and the felon couldn't save 143

I don 't think it's fine to compare Lady Gaga and Katy Perry and even more RedOne and Dr. Luke.

Especially when you see there like + 10 person working on all of 143 songs. Nobody could save her from an obvious uninspired un uncreative period anyway.

Edited September 20, 2024 by monketsharona

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3 hours ago, NATAH said:

i would be interested to hear what red and Gaga come up with these days but not for an entire record, just a droplet song

i much prefer when she works with totally new people every few albums, it always keeps things fresh and energized

I would be fine with a BTW situation with a 2/3 songs made with RedOne.

[AVeryGagaHolyDick 25,031]

4 hours ago, Leoj305 said:

Who produced Sheisa?

RedOne

[AVeryGagaHolyDick 25,031]

36 minutes ago, Anderson123 said:

The one thing to learn from this is that Gaga was the mastermind behind her music. As much as I love RedOne he was never able to make another Poker Face, Bad Romance, Judas, Scheiße with all of the people he worked with at that time. I'm sure that if they got together again right now and something good worked out for an album it'd be because of Gaga's vision and creativity.

I mean I'm glad Gaga likes switching producers to keep her ideas fresh and they also deserve credit and at least we got Gypsy and Angel Down but yeah, Katy seems more like the type of popstar that is told what to do and it's mostly Dr. Luke and her team making all the magic for her albums.

I don’t understand what you wrote, 143 is bad, so how does that prove the genius is Dr. Luke since he produced it?

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6 hours ago, SashaxBzns said:

Luke is much more talented and significant in music than RedOne. 

Naur girl, using a sample, slowing it and adding a basic drum beat is NOT talented 

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I think that in general, it's not a good thing when an artirst tries to emulate a past work or album. Katy was clearly trying to recreate Teenage Dream with 143, that's probably why she called Luke again. That's why i don't like seeing fans begging Gaga to "be dark Gaga again" or "do another TFM or BTW". Gaga herself said in and interview from Joanne. She can't go back (or something like this). Artists should keep trying to challenge themselves and evolve with their work, not try to recreate a work from the golden days. 

[Bronco 10,450]

6 hours ago, SashaxBzns said:

I hate you for making me say this but... (deep breath) (ughhhhhhhhhh) (geez, ****) Luke is much more talented and significant in music than RedOne. 

Considering Dr Luke's credits include a signifcant amount of material where he's forced himself onto the credit list through shady contracts. I don't think he's talented or significant in music, I think he's a grifter. 

Like so many of the hits attributed to Dr Luke in part, also happen to include Max Martin. And then if you look at the songs linked to him where he's not worked with Max, you suddenly start running out of hits. And then he jumped onto Benny Blanco. 

There's a real big trend when you look at who Dr Luke worked with prolifically pre-lawsuit. One where they continue to be hit makers, and Dr Luke does not.