Ziggy 10,722 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 (edited) 35 minutes ago, 63grekke said: You guys are being ridiculous. A musical is something like *La La Land* or *West Side Story*—where cheesy, operatic singing comes out of nowhere and doesn't even fit with what’s happening. ASIB was about a pop star, so the music scenes felt more natural as the scenes with music were just her performing. The first Joker movie had random dancing and singing, and the same thing applies to the sequel—it actually makes sense with the plot. So, no, it’s not a musical. Media literacy is dead. Well no lol it literally was promoted as a musical upon announcement so your literacy may be stumbling lol. And your definition of musical is also not what a musical is? There’s a multitude of ways to do a musical. None of us have seen this yet so who’s to say what this one’s is but if you’ve called it a musical from the jump and now said it’s otherwise…that’s not giving some covert media literacy that’s just giving back pedaling Edited September 4 by Ziggy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roughhouse Dandy 8,266 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 Y'all are more thrown than my high school class when the theatre teacher taught us the difference between "musicals" and "plays with music" This is my Hannah Montana™️ lipgloss. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOT 2,595 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 4 hours ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: Not necessarily, there are plenty of musicals where the numbers are dream sequences or asides and, given that Gaga said the numbers “express the characters’ inner worlds,” I think it’s pretty fair to say this could be characterized as a musical. It’s a semantic trick to try to avoid the stigma of categorizing it as a musical, imo. We're all making these comments without having seen the movie, but I don't think it's a semantic trick. I think it's an honest attempt to describe what the movie is, i.e. a movie that has a lot of music in it but which is not a musical. My sense of it is that, yes, there are some dream sequences where they sing in their best professional voices, but that there aren't enough of those scenes to class it as a musical. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dit 45,367 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 ok so the pianist is probably the third person billed in the soundtrack whos name was blurred! makes sense now that Gaga explains how important the pianist was 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 16,067 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 5 hours ago, 63grekke said: You guys are being ridiculous. A musical is something like *La La Land* or *West Side Story*—where cheesy, operatic singing comes out of nowhere and doesn't even fit with what’s happening. ASIB was about a pop star, so the music scenes felt more natural as the scenes with music were just her performing. The first Joker movie had random dancing and singing, and the same thing applies to the sequel—it actually makes sense with the plot. So, no, it’s not a musical. Media literacy is dead. It’s actually insanely illiterate to describe musicals as media where “cheesy, operatic singing comes out of nowhere and doesn’t even fit with what’s happening” and leads me to believe you seen neither of the movies you referenced, given that they’re both actually pretty different from each other and neither fit that description lmao 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 16,067 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 4 hours ago, Ziggy said: Well no lol it literally was promoted as a musical upon announcement so your literacy may be stumbling lol. And your definition of musical is also not what a musical is? There’s a multitude of ways to do a musical. None of us have seen this yet so who’s to say what this one’s is but if you’ve called it a musical from the jump and now said it’s otherwise…that’s not giving some covert media literacy that’s just giving back pedaling Yeah, some folks on here have gotta be willing to admit that they just don’t really know what musicals are and call it a day. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edonis 28,570 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 hmmm, oomfies that went and saw the film definitely said it was so idk about that 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controversiaga 9,142 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 I’m glad a lot of us aren’t falling for this im sorry but a musical is a musical BECAUSE the dialogue along isn’t enough for the character to express themselves so the music kicks in. What she just described is the definition of a musical Gaga you’re a musical theatre kid you went to school for this wtf r u trying to say Pronounced like “Balenciaga” . Emphasis on the “Ga” 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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