BUtterfield 8 40,726 Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 The only question I’m wondering is if Patrick is a trumpy as well…. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reginald 13,827 Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 (edited) Genuinely surprised in a negative way to see such nuanced takes here. Give these GOP people an inch, and they WILL go so far as to ban interstate travel for pregnant women, ban sex outside of marriage, and label all lgbtq individuals as pedophiles worthy of the death sentence. Did some of us forget that this is the Project 2025 playbook? These are their explicit goals, they said it themselves. I have no room in my life for Trump supporters. Edited August 29 by Reginald 8 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALGAYDO 29,940 Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 (edited) You have to have some sort of mental disorder, or be secretly racist, homophobic, and/or transphobic to support Trump. So nah, being friends with someone like that makes you gross. “I don’t have to agree with them politically!!” Yeah but they literally support the disenfranchisement of minorities, and you’re okay with that? Gross. Edited August 29 by ALGAYDO 7 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TortureMeOnReplay 5,791 Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 1 hour ago, Gagaism said: First I just want to be clear, I’m not here to defend Trump at all. I agree on what you say but the thing is there’s so many layers to understand why somebody will endorse one side in politics. Even tho I can’t believe any politician I still get sided with democrats for many reasons after I put the pros and cons in a scale, especially for being gay, immigrant, black and poor. On my own experiences, I’ve got to know some Trump supporters who have gay friends and aren’t racists for example and even used to be left supporters before, but supports him just because of financial reasons. Most of them tells me that was easier to make money when he was the president, and apparently its all that matters to them. Im ok with their POVs as long they won’t try to brainwash me, I understand nobody is perfect and that’s why I avoid any conversations about politics with them. Being fiscally conservative does not mean you're a Trump supporter. My issue personally isn't if somebody is a Republican, it's supporting Trump. I can understand that some of Trump's policies benefited some in a way. But the issue at that point is that you're willing to let others suffer to make more money. And it's probably from Republicans' regressive Tax cuts which were designed as a bribe in the first place. And for what $200-300 a year? We're selling out other people's wellbeing for a couple hundred dollars? 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagaism 9,922 Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 1 minute ago, TortureMeOnReplay said: Being fiscally conservative does not mean you're a Trump supporter. My issue personally isn't if somebody is a Republican, it's supporting Trump. I can understand that some of Trump's policies benefited some in a way. But the issue at that point is that you're willing to let others suffer to make more money. And it's probably from Republicans' regressive Tax cuts which were designed as a bribe in the first place. And for what $200-300 a year? We're selling out other people's wellbeing for a couple hundred dollars? I totally agree and that’s why I can’t personally get in a conversation about politics with them supporters, there’s so many layers that when folks are so passionate and fanatical about it gets really hard to explain. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rat Boy 41,419 Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 (edited) I’m still recovering from the fact that he has supporters Edited August 29 by Rat Boy "Rat Boy's a nasty, trashy, sleazy, classless"- River 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
killme89 1,122 Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 2 hours ago, PartySick said: Sorry, I'd never be friends with a Trump supporter. It's not a "political difference", it's a total moral and intellectual failure. Being MAGA is a personality flaw and I don't find it acceptable to say "this person votes for my civil rights to be stripped away and the society I live in to get demonstrably worse but I'll be friends with them anyway". This , good for you for having a backbone. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivy 11,603 Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 4 hours ago, faysalaaa said: So now humans are supposed to cut off anyone thats a republican? lol To me it's a big difference between being a republican and being a trump supporter tho 7 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley 8,587 Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 3 hours ago, PartySick said: Sorry, I'd never be friends with a Trump supporter. It's not a "political difference", it's a total moral and intellectual failure. Being MAGA is a personality flaw and I don't find it acceptable to say "this person votes for my civil rights to be stripped away and the society I live in to get demonstrably worse but I'll be friends with them anyway". I completely agree. Like I will be civil and polite with Trump supporters at work or whatever, but that’s not someone who’s friendship and company I will seek out. 2 hours ago, BUtterfield 8 said: The only question I’m wondering is if Patrick is a trumpy as well…. I think it’s obvious he is. I think a lot of the NFL are tbh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,379 Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 The dividing line used to be more clear in a cliché way but not anymore. There's obviously a difference between Trump and Harris but, still, a vote for Dems rn can easily be condemned as supporting your government to fund a genocide while suppressing legitimate protest, as that is precisely what Dems and specifically Harris has chosen to do. Not saying that is a legitimate personality attack but this is why the binary no longer works. Otherwise good people vote for Trump and justify that choice with similar mental circus acts as people who, opposing a genocide, will also vote for a person who will continue bombing innocent civilians. There's always something that outweighs these concerns, usually a kind of "the system is broken, this is our only avenue for some kind of change" bs that makes it harder to paint these people as black and white racists or misogynists. People genuinely believe sometimes that the end justifies the means, even if it means temporarily supporting a monster. Just human nature, I fear. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
faysalaaa 2,936 Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 (edited) 4 hours ago, PartySick said: Sorry, I'd never be friends with a Trump supporter. It's not a "political difference", it's a total moral and intellectual failure. Being MAGA is a personality flaw and I don't find it acceptable to say "this person votes for my civil rights to be stripped away and the society I live in to get demonstrably worse but I'll be friends with them anyway". I think thats completely fine, I personally wouldnt be close friends with them too, but I dont think we should attack people for knowing a MAGA person. We all vote to take other peoples rights in different ways, we cant take it personal Edited August 29 by faysalaaa Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowLoris 936 Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 Taylor is spineless and cares only about her money. There's your answer. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emvee 7,623 Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 That MAGA agenda list looks like it was written by a 5th grader for their social studies presidential debate speech. Could you get any more simplistic? The absolute brain rot of these people Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nATAH 42,261 Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 2 hours ago, Ivy said: To me it's a big difference between being a republican and being a trump supporter tho fully agreed, i have some friends that are conservative voting but purely for financial reasons (they don't wanna be taxed more etc). if they were Reform UK voters, it would be different cus that's a very far right party i feel like aligning yourself with trump is aligning yourself with very far right politics instead of just being a bit conservative mother, what must i do? 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 144,829 Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 5 hours ago, Gagaism said: but supports him just because of financial reasons So they're not well informed 'cause he's objectively worse for the economy, small businesses, and consumers. Especially with his current proposed policies. The only reason he had any positive economy is because he enjoyed Obama's recovery. But even before covid hit, the economy at large was crashing. 5 hours ago, Gagaism said: Most of them tells me that was easier to make money when he was the president, and apparently its all that matters to them. So they're shallow and totally cool with voting to walk back civil rights of it'll make them a dollar or two. 5 hours ago, Gagaism said: even used to be left supporters before So they'll give up their ideals for the chance to make money. 5 hours ago, Gagaism said: I’ve got to know some Trump supporters who have gay friends and aren’t racists for example They call them "friends" but then vote for them to become second class citizens... They might not be bigots but they seem to be ok with empowering bigots for the misconception that it's easier to make/save money while they're in power. I don't see the redeeming quality here Like, I get what you're saying and it's fine, befriend who you want, but political stances matter to me. I don't make friends with cynical people who don't care who's in charge and I absolutely refuse to associate with people who support c*nts like Trump, idc what their backwards, ignorant, and mistaken reasoning is. They're either misinformed, stupid, hateful, or all three and I'm just not here for it 2 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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