Critics Reviews । Joker: Folie à Deux

[RAMROD 106,088]

24 minutes ago, RickMonster98 said:

Do we know something about Joker 2 budget? 

 

23 minutes ago, Juanlittlem said:

200M.

 

22 minutes ago, RickMonster98 said:

 

12 minutes ago, buzzkill said:

so it need to do at least 600m to have profits?

 

Bigger. This $200M budget is only for filming. WB spending extra money for the advertising too. 
 

 Currently it is tracking projection for $70M opening week, which is bad and low. Cos the first movie is $1B, and opening week of $92.6M, people expects it shpuldw at least do $100M first week but it didn't.

 

Second week likely slump lower too, aside from musical aspects, the ending of this movie will angered a lot of basement dweller Joker fans, instead of good word of mouth that first one had  & Gaga fans will also not watching it as much now that people said she only have small parts 

Edited September 12, 2024 by RAMROD

[Hyperobject 66,771]

5 minutes ago, RAMROD said:

 

 

 

 

Bigger. This $200M budget is only for filming. WB spending extra money for the advertising too. 
 

 Currently it is tracking projection for $70M opening week, which is bad and low. Cos the first movie is $1B, and opening week of $92.6M, people expects it shpuldw at least do $100M first week but it didn't.

 

Second week likely slump lower too, aside from musical aspects, the ending of this movie will angered a lot of basement dweller Joker fans, instead of good word of mouth that first one had  & Gaga fans will also not watching it as much now that people said she only have small parts 

at least we will have LG7 next year!!!

[Hyperobject 66,771]

if the movie flops Twitter is gonna eat her alive, I hope she’s ready for it  

[ModernEcstasy 8,608]

The movie ”failing” will likely have an impact on how LG7 will be received by the GP. 
I’m not ready to have a flop era. 
I hope peoples curiosity gets the better of them and they go watch it. 

[Hyperobject 66,771]

4 minutes ago, ModernEcstasy said:

The movie ”failing” will likely have an impact on how LG7 will be received by the GP. 

it won’t,

if the songs resonate with the GP - LG7 will be a success, if not - it will flop, that’s it.

Joker has nothing to do with LG7 doing numbers or tanking. 

[Monsterclaw 447]

How are the pre-sales globally tho? Maybe that would make up for the US 

[Juanlittlem 43,019]

2 minutes ago, Monsterclaw said:

How are the pre-sales globally tho? Maybe that would make up for the US 

The only tickets bought for the showing Im going are mine 

[Monsterclaw 447]

Just now, Juanlittlem said:

The only tickets bought for the showing Im going are mine 

but on the other hand is it that big of a deal that tickets are not selling a month in advance? everyone i know just goes to see the movie when its already out 

[Juanlittlem 43,019]

3 minutes ago, Monsterclaw said:

but on the other hand is it that big of a deal that tickets are not selling a month in advance? everyone i know just goes to see the movie when its already out 

Yeah, Im sure it will do more when the actual premiere comes closer

[RickMonster98 7,399]

45 minutes ago, RAMROD said:

Bigger. This $200M budget is only for filming. WB spending extra money for the advertising too. 

A profitable movie usually needs Budgetx3 in its box office, so 600M would be okay

Hopefully it will be in the 700-800M range at the end of its run, I cant see it being higher rn tbh

[Splendjey 45]

24 minutes ago, Monsterclaw said:

but on the other hand is it that big of a deal that tickets are not selling a month in advance? everyone i know just goes to see the movie when its already out 

For Deadpool and Wolverine cinemas were completely sold out on pre sale weeks in advance, so that should give us an idea…

[HIM820 1,770]

The demographics for the presales are similar to the first movie, skewing male over 25. Most likely a lot are DC fans who will see anything they put out. It's interesting how Gaga's inclusion hasn't opened up that demo at least so far, which I assume WB was hoping for. 

I think the opening week might do better than predictions, hopefully with Gaga walkups. But after that... idk. It makes me really nervous how people are already considering this another Flash or the Marvels. I think premiering at Venice was a mistake and killed momentum, similar to Dial of Destiny at Cannes last year. 

Edited September 12, 2024 by HIM820

[Reality 73,750]

The $70 million [domestic] opening weekend tracking is pretty awful, ngl. Ideally, it should open higher than the first film, but I think we're learning more and more that the first film truly captured lightning in a bottle. I don't expect Joker 2 to be as successful as the first movie, but it should be closer than this. Even if the domestic opening weekend numbers are in the $80-$90 million range, that'd be considered ok/good, but $70 million is low.

I hope the tracking numbers increase as we get closer to the release date. And good word of mouth is gonna make or break this film. Even if the film is extremely polarizing, that's better than it being boring and dull—which, in all honesty, is my main concern. At least then it's going to generate chatter and interesting. If it's boring, then no one will care.

[Splendjey 45]

42 minutes ago, Reality said:

The $70 million [domestic] opening weekend tracking is pretty awful, ngl. Ideally, it should open higher than the first film, but I think we're learning more and more that the first film truly captured lightning in a bottle. I don't expect Joker 2 to be as successful as the first movie, but it should be closer than this. Even if the domestic opening weekend numbers are in the $80-$90 million range, that'd be considered ok/good, but $70 million is low.

I hope the tracking numbers increase as we get closer to the release date. And good word of mouth is gonna make or break this film. Even if the film is extremely polarizing, that's better than it being boring and dull—which, in all honesty, is my main concern. At least then it's going to generate chatter and interesting. If it's boring, then no one will care.

Considering the spoilers review, the movie doesn’t seem boring or dull like the critics said. It’s just the ending that will make people love or hate the film 

[Reality 73,750]

4 minutes ago, Splendjey said:

Considering the spoilers review, the movie doesn’t seem boring or dull like the critics said. It’s just the ending that will make people love or hate the film 

I haven't read any spoiler reviews, but some of the reviews right after Venice said it was dull or boring. I don't think it will be based on the marketing so far, but we'll see soon enough.