Official Charts Thread

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On 9/10/2024 at 3:01 PM, Luna Lovegood said:

yeah I’m so ****ing done with US radio.. the song is doing well ON EVERY SINGLE PLATFORM and yet the callout scores are tragic wtf?  

Is troy carter managing the radios in US in some sort of way cause at this point I'm really starting to wonder. 

Pop radio embraced “Bloody Mary” more than it’s embracing “Die with a Smile”. How is it week 3 for the most daily streamed song on Spotify and it hasn’t even entered the Top 20…and only moved one spot in a week…

Adult Contemporary radio and Adult Pop radio are carrying. Exactly what happened with “Shallow”.

In some ways I understand Interscope too, like why waste so much money on heavy payola when the radios doesn't even like you that much? yeah say goodbye to radio when LG7 Lead drops lmao pathetic af

 

I mean a song being heavily consumed via streamjng does not mean its liked by most. It could simply mean the people who like it, really like it

 

One of Canadas largest radio stations did give it a pretty tragic review and many ppl texted negative reviews as well

 

I feel many older millenials who grew up with Gaga and Bruno (+ some soccer moms) are loving this song and doing some heavy streaming... 

 

But i guess the larger General public isnt loving it as much as we thought. Also Genz doesnt seem to like these kinds of power ballads much 

Edited September 11 by Economy

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8 minutes ago, Economy said:

Really? What score did she get?

 

I guess thats why its getting bad updates now? Im so surprised

Ranked #40 while Sabrina songs were Top10. Honestly, with all I've learned about callout scores on here and on X, I genuinely dont think its the end for this song on radio. This is a survey based on listeners and it will not be the last, it could still be positive later or not. My point is some radio stations use this as basis but some of them dont. And a lot of songs like Die With A Smile stay Top 10 even without massive radio support.

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On 9/10/2024 at 3:13 PM, Luna Lovegood said:

there’s nothing we can do to help on radio other than request (wouldn’t impact MUCH) with the callout scores being so low unfortunately. I just hope and wished the radio wouldn’t weigh AS MUCH as it is on the Hot 100 in this current day and age. A lot of people have been calling this out since the streaming era and yet they didn’t change the system. US radio is run by a bunch of freaks. No wonder a lot of Hot 100 #1 debut is carried by mass streamings and mass digital downloads nowadays. Just stupid.

If we got rid of radio for charts tho then streaming would essentially be the only thing being measured tho

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On 9/10/2024 at 3:54 PM, Shyane said:

Radio is corrupt for sure.

But these are call out scores. Are we saying they are fudging the numbers?

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23 hours ago, Luna Lovegood said:

 

DWAS on #40 while other new songs like Taste debuting straight in top 15 on callouts.. let me remind you guys again that DWAS is #1 on AM US and #2 on Spotify US. If that’s not FRADULENT idk what else is. It’s time to abolish the US radio. and trust me radio CLEARLY have a hate boner towards Gaga because Bruno’s last song ‘LTDO’ was a radio smash (albeit it’s a lead single with radio deal) and it’s literally has the same essence as DWAS. After this callout I’m done tracking US radio lmao just useless and stupid 

We cant prove its fradulent tho. Wouldnt call out scores simply say what percentage of ppl like a song?

 

Streaming can be very different from GP perception can it not?

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4 minutes ago, Economy said:

One of Canadas largest radio stations did give it a pretty tragic review and many ppl texted negative reviews as well

I feel many older millenials who grew up with Gaga and Bruno (+ some soccer moms) are loving this song and doing some heavy streaming... 

But i guess the larger General public isnt loving it as much as we thought. Also Genz doesnt seem to like these kinds of power ballads much 

Based on what people like today, they like the whisper-singing, rapping, and country songs, 5 years ago it was tropical/chill pop, 10 years ago it was EDM with every DJ featuring someone. Its just how it is, genres rise and fall every now and then but ballads are always on trend regardless of whats popular. I have faith in Die With A Smile's continued success. It may not go #1 in the US or be a radio hit but its got enough people all around the world who stream it on multiple platforms making it #1 Worldwide.

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Instead of moaning about call out scores I encourage everyone to register here: https://ratethemusic.com and do the weekly survey to help DWAS on US Radio: 

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8 minutes ago, Economy said:

If we got rid of radio for charts tho then streaming would essentially be the only thing being measured tho

And thats how it should be, thats how it is on my country. Radio is not consumer based, sorry. People dont decide what they want to hear no matter how they pretend that requesting songs online make a difference. If I had a cent everytime I tweeted US radio to play Perfect Illusion or Million Reasons I'd be a millionaire. But guess what, paid dust.

Edited September 11 by Real Panda

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2 minutes ago, r4therupbeat said:

Instead of moaning about call out scores I encourage everyone to register here: https://ratethemusic.com and do the weekly survey to help DWAS on US Radio: 

Thats for US monsters though, I tried to signup I have to provide details I cant give, like a specific US address.

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7 minutes ago, Real Panda said:

Ranked #40 while Sabrina songs were Top10. Honestly, with all I've learned about callout scores on here and on X, I genuinely dont think its the end for this song on radio. This is a survey based on listeners and it will not be the last, it could still be positive later or not. My point is some radio stations use this as basis but some of them dont. And a lot of songs like Die With A Smile stay Top 10 even without massive radio support.

Yeah i scrolled back pages and saw

 

Tbh tho this song is a grower for some and although ppl who follow music and fans love it... many in the GP are just discovering it

 

So yeah it may still improve. It wasnt super anticipated that may also have an impact on familiarity

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2 minutes ago, Real Panda said:

And thats how it should be, thats how it is on my country. Radio is not consumer based, sorry. People dont decide what they want to hear no matter how they pretend that requesting songs online make a difference. If I had a cent everytime I tweeted US radio to play Perfect Illusion or Million Reasons I'd be a millionaire. But guess what, paid dust.

I mean i can agree streaming is the most accurate form to track popularity anyway

 

But for those criricizing that songs these days from big artists like Drake or Swift take entire top 10 in album releases because of power of streaming, making a chart exclusively on streaming have that occur even more often.

 

Like everything will be front loaded from big artists. Longevity will have little impact on a songs peak

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3 minutes ago, Economy said:

I mean i can agree streaming is the most accurate form to track popularity anyway

But for those criricizing that songs these days from big artists like Drake or Swift take entire top 10 in album releases because of power of streaming, making a chart exclusively on streaming have that occur even more often.

Like everything will be front loaded from big artists. Longevity will have little impact on a songs peak

I get what youre saying however its not just streaming, theres also physical and digital sales. 

But the only reason songs from the past spend so long on the US charts is partly because of Radio. It does not accurately reflect what people want to hear when its played like crazy.

For example, Miley Cyrus' Flowers, yes it was a hit released in the beginning of 2023 but gets played more on Radio than Die With A Smile, as well as other songs from 2023. If anything, Radio is the most easily payola-ed platform because a station who receives incentives could easily overplay a song with low sales and streams and make it chart. *coughs Madison Beer*

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1 minute ago, Real Panda said:

I get what youre saying however its not just streaming, theres also physical and digital sales. 

But the only reason songs from the past spend so long on the US charts is partly because of Radio. It does not accurately reflect what people want to hear when its played like crazy.

For example, Miley Cyrus' Flowers, yes it was a hit released in the beginning of 2023 but gets played more on Radio than Die With A Smile, as well as other songs from 2023. If anything, Radio is the most easily payola-ed platform because a station who receives incentives could easily overplay a song with low sales and streams and make it chart. *coughs Madison Beer*

Yeah but sales are dying so much, i think when u have only sales and streaming, for all intents and purposes it becomes mostly a streaming chart

 

But its fine. The reality is internet makes music consumption much more front loaded now and immedite. I guess charts reflecting that simply mean they are accurate

 

I may not like big artists taking up most of the top 10 and not giving as much of others a chance to also climb the chart but the reality is, streaming is just measuring true consumption and big artists are front loaded on debut whether we like it or not. Its simply measuring the reality of music consumption today

 

So i agree with u.

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At least in the rest of the world : Europe, Asia and Australia radio is onboard!

i cant belive  that collouts are so bad only in US, people choose to stream but dont want to listen it in the radio??

and i can’t agree that its different target, radio is just suggesting some people what they should  like ,  objectivly the song is a grower and it so easy to listen..

and the truth (which is not shocking) that most of gays are not streaming it that  much, so who is??
GP!!

Edited September 11 by scheisseJK

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If the song really starts failing on radio (which I don’t think it will), just one high profile performance will get the momentum back up. 
 

It happened with Shallow and Million Reasons. Neither got their main radio push until the Oscar/Super Bowl performances, which were months after the songs were released.