Racists Are Rioting In England As We Speak

[Karl 3,575]

1 hour ago, faysalaaa said:

Im a Muslim Arab that very much supports immigration, but the mass immigration in Europe was insane, and I knew it would create all these issues that we are seeing today. I have been going to London since I was a child, and my parents even owned a home there, but now we never go because its dangerous and different. But im still not from Europe or fully aware of the politics there, just giving my opinion as an outsider..

Immigration is the least of our concerns as a country, there are loads of other more important problems right now, none of which have been caused by immigration, we still have one of the lower rates in Europe compared to other places. We have had immigration here since the 19th century so it's not really and never has been an issue, the UK is extremely diverse with many flourishing cultures and has been for decades. The only difference now is the internet, fake posts and videos, flamebait and bad actors trying to fan the flames of division.

[Diamond Blood 4,552]

IMPORTANT REMINDER FOR ANYONE IN LONDON TMRW 

4 LONDON Bouroughs are on a potential hitlist for far right rioting tmrw

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/farright-protest-london-boroughs-riot-police-army-violence-b1174841.html

Harrow in north west London

Hounslow in west London

Finchley, north London

Walthamstow in north east London

Remember to stay safe and AVOID these areas at all cost tmrw 

Stay safe,

ARTPOPKISS

xoxo

[faysalaaa 5,336]

1 hour ago, Karl said:

Immigration is the least of our concerns as a country, there are loads of other more important problems right now, none of which have been caused by immigration, we still have one of the lower rates in Europe compared to other places. We have had immigration here since the 19th century so it's not really and never has been an issue, the UK is extremely diverse with many flourishing cultures and has been for decades. The only difference now is the internet, fake posts and videos, flamebait and bad actors trying to fan the flames of division.

Diversity is good, and more immigrants is not a bad thing, but mass immigration without a good system can cause whats happening today in Europe. These people protesting are obviously racist white supremacists, but that doesnt mean immigration is not a real issue in Europe.

Is it not true that Muslims in Europe were asking for actual sharia law, and started religious policing neighborhoods? Thats something that even Muslim countries dont have, and yet they are demanding sharia law and police? But id like to know from you considering im not sure about the details of these issues..

[Karl 3,575]

6 hours ago, faysalaaa said:

Diversity is good, and more immigrants is not a bad thing, but mass immigration without a good system can cause whats happening today in Europe. These people protesting are obviously racist white supremacists, but that doesnt mean immigration is not a real issue in Europe.

Is it not true that Muslims in Europe were asking for actual sharia law, and started religious policing neighborhoods? Thats something that even Muslim countries dont have, and yet they are demanding sharia law and police? But id like to know from you considering im not sure about the details of these issues..

I don't know about that but if they were it would have been maybe a handful of people out of the millions that live here because I have no idea about it. Majority of towns and cities have Muslim populations fully integrated with no issues at all. 

[Nessun Dorma 10,095]

16 hours ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

Yeah, the introduction of COVID into our society has been shown to result in an increase in reckless driving and other aggro behavior (probably because the disease has been shown to create longstanding neuroinflammation, executive dysfunction, and potentially even brain damage), so you’re probably right on the money here, unfortunately. 

I beg to differ, I think Covid has nothing do to with this problem. The far right began to rise way before the pandemic. What’s happening now is the result of wrong leadership combined with the power of digital era. Nowadays any stupid person can have a voice, anchored by ignorance, misinformation and fake news. The misinformation leads to herd behavior and generates hatred and aversion towards minorities. This is purely the representation of everything evil inherent to mankind. 

[Ladle Ghoulash 53,188]

26 minutes ago, Nessun Dorma said:

I beg to differ, I think Covid has nothing do to with this problem. The far right began to rise way before the pandemic. What’s happening now is the result of wrong leadership combined with the power of digital era. Nowadays any stupid person can have a voice, anchored by ignorance, misinformation and fake news. The misinformation leads to herd behavior and generates hatred and aversion towards minorities. This is purely the representation of everything evil inherent to mankind. 

Yeah, respectfully, two things can be happening at once ♥️

[Axl Jax 634]

Unfortunately it looks like civil war is about to kick off massively here - I've just read elon musks recent tweets and although I don't like much of what he says, I'm so glad he's putting the uncontrolled immigration issue out there on such a wide platform. Everyone should be treated the same regardless of colour - the reason people are losing their sh** is because.. Well prime example - a white man gets 2 years in jail for selling anti immigration stickers yet a non white muslim man r*pes a 12 year old girl repeatedly and only gets community service. Of course the racist thugs are just using it as an opportunity to spew hate and commit violence however there's a lot of protective dads and mamabears who won't stand for this - and they feel that there is two teir policing and under a Starmer government will get much worse. Just to clarify I'm not saying race or religion makes you anymore of a predator however people who have grown up in places like Rochdale and Rotherham feel they've been ignored and gaslighted all their life due to the lack of arrests of grooming gangs. After the last few years with covid, the lockdowns, its all contributing to this perfect storm we are seeing right now. The only thing is - we shouldn't be attacking immigrants for it - we should be blaming the government for the lack of border control. Its not an immigrants issue - its a national security issue.

Edit- i feel its also to do with the rise of social media, especially things like tiktok and misinformation. For example the guy who stabbed the kids in Southport was born in Wales to Rwandan parents, Rwanda is a predominantly Christian country so he's probably not even a Muslim. I do feel sorry for certain groups right now - especially the terrified people in the hotel that got stormed into. That's another thing that makes people angry though, when I was homeless I was told I had to prove I was vulnerable enough or I can't be given accommodation, and when I finally was able to, I was put in a hostel full of addicts and violent people and felt so unsafe, I've even heard homeless people make jokes such as "maybe I should go and get a dingy and come back to the shore and I'll get a free hotel". There's many things contributing to what we are seeing currently - and ive even spoke to liberal people who are scared to question it or this new government will label them far-right and thugs, which they do seem to be doing right now. It's a sad state of affairs for everyone on all sides, I wish we could unite and realise the true core problem is the 'elites', for lack of a better word. The MPs etc. We are all fighting each other whilst they watch from their fancy houses living on massive wages whilst us peasants are in a cost of living crisis.

[Nessun Dorma 10,095]

31 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

Yeah, respectfully, two things can be happening at once ♥️

I understand your point of view. The evidences suggests Covid can cause brain injury and cognitive issues, like memory loss and difficulty concentrating. But is the injury severe enough to cause all this twisted behavior and brutality? I really don’t know. Maybe it’s just me being hopeless about mankind and not at all surprised by how evil people can become, with or without a brain injury. 

[Bronco 25,160]

29 minutes ago, Axl Jax said:

Unfortunately it looks like civil war is about to kick off massively here - I've just read elon musks recent tweets and although I don't like much of what he says, I'm so glad he's putting the uncontrolled immigration issue out there on such a wide platform. Everyone should be treated the same regardless of colour - the reason people are losing their sh** is because.. Well prime example - a white man gets 2 years in jail for selling anti immigration stickers yet a non white muslim man r*pes a 12 year old girl repeatedly and only gets community service. Of course the racist thugs are just using it as an opportunity to spew hate and commit violence however there's a lot of protective dads and mamabears who won't stand for this - and they feel that there is two teir policing and under a Starmer government will get much worse. Just to clarify I'm not saying race or religion makes you anymore of a predator however people who have grown up in places like Rochdale and Rotherham feel they've been ignored and gaslighted all their life due to the lack of arrests of grooming gangs. After the last few years with covid, the lockdowns, its all contributing to this perfect storm we are seeing right now. The only thing is - we shouldn't be attacking immigrants for it - we should be blaming the government for the lack of border control. Its not an immigrants issue - its a national security issue.

Edit- i feel its also to do with the rise of social media, especially things like tiktok and misinformation. For example the guy who stabbed the kids in Southport was born in Wales to Rwandan parents, Rwanda is a predominantly Christian country so he's probably not even a Muslim. I do feel sorry for certain groups right now - especially the terrified people in the hotel that got stormed into. That's another thing that makes people angry though, when I was homeless I was told I had to prove I was vulnerable enough or I can't be given accommodation, and when I finally was able to, I was put in a hostel full of addicts and violent people and felt so unsafe, I've even heard homeless people make jokes such as "maybe I should go and get a dingy and come back to the shore and I'll get a free hotel". There's many things contributing to what we are seeing currently - and ive even spoke to liberal people who are scared to question it or this new government will label them far-right and thugs, which they do seem to be doing right now. It's a sad state of affairs for everyone on all sides, I wish we could unite and realise the true core problem is the 'elites', for lack of a better word. The MPs etc. We are all fighting each other whilst they watch from their fancy houses living on massive wages whilst us peasants are in a cost of living crisis.

Meanwhile a white man rapes a kid in England and gets to compete in the Olympics.

Someone arrested in Liverpool for hitting a copper got 2 months today. Climate activists got 5 years for sitting in a zoom meeting.

The 2 tier narrative is a racist trope started by the far right during the BLM protests in 2020. 

What they ignore is it was revealled last week that the only protests in London where police where given authorisation to use batton rounds was the BLM protests - it was denied for EDL protests in London the same year. That's 2 tier policing. 

We don't have uncontrolled immigration in this country. We control it perfectly, because we know that second we change the system it will lead to multiple bankruptcies of leading UK universities, a total collapse of the adult social care sector and an uncontrollable rise in NHS waiting lists and a collapse of emergency care. 

Rotherham and Rochdale were horrendous, but having met one of the social workers who finally got the story public. The biggest issue was the local police saw a bunch of teenage girls having sex and decided they were sluts who weren't worth the resources. 

If papabears and mamabears are so angry at grooming gangs then where were the riots over the Bryn Estyn scandal? Where were the riots over the Kincora scandal? Where were the riots over Jimmy Saville & Leon Brittain? How do these people protect kids by trying to burn down hotels with kids screaming for help inside? If these papabears and mamabears are so protective why are they going out supporting the EDL/BNP et  which have had multiple high ranking members convicted of child sex crimes? Why do they support Tommy Robinson who made a career and a name for himself by making repeated attempts to collapse the Rotherham grooming gangs trial and prevent the victims getting justice? 

How do these riots you're trying to justify help or protect kids? The charity I work for works with kids in the care system, and we've had numerous kids this week phoning us in tears petrified of going outside. We've had death threats for posting pictures showing we work with non-white kids on some programmes. We've had to cancel all of our support sessions this week on police advice because of the risk from idiots talking about civil war and bullshit edl nonsense. We've had to evacuate our office today as its a potential riots target.

What kids are being protected by any of these bullshit pogroms? Who's protecting our kids, who have already had to go into care for protection from idiots, when they're entire support network is getting threatened with violence?

Why are the unaccompanied refugee children I work with being targeted by idiots pushing the same nonsense as you? These kids have fled warzones. Some have been trafficked into this country for god knows what. And now simply for not being white they're getting attacked! They're accomodation vandalised or worse. How is that protecting them? If I'm to believe that thugs care about kids, why are victims of sex trafficking being attacked by people who talk exactly like you. 

[Ladle Ghoulash 53,188]

29 minutes ago, Axl Jax said:

Unfortunately it looks like civil war is about to kick off massively here - I've just read elon musks recent tweets and although I don't like much of what he says, I'm so glad he's putting the uncontrolled immigration issue out there on such a wide platform. Everyone should be treated the same regardless of colour - the reason people are losing their sh** is because.. Well prime example - a white man gets 2 years in jail for selling anti immigration stickers yet a non white muslim man r*pes a 12 year old girl repeatedly and only gets community service. Of course the racist thugs are just using it as an opportunity to spew hate and commit violence however there's a lot of protective dads and mamabears who won't stand for this - and they feel that there is two teir policing and under a Starmer government will get much worse. Just to clarify I'm not saying race or religion makes you anymore of a predator however people who have grown up in places like Rochdale and Rotherham feel they've been ignored and gaslighted all their life due to the lack of arrests of grooming gangs. After the last few years with covid, the lockdowns, its all contributing to this perfect storm we are seeing right now. The only thing is - we shouldn't be attacking immigrants for it - we should be blaming the government for the lack of border control. Its not an immigrants issue - its a national security issue.

Edit- i feel it’s also to do with the rise of social media, especially things like tiktok and misinformation. For example the guy who stabbed the kids in Southport was born in Wales to Rwandan parents, Rwanda is a predominantly Christian country so he's probably not even a Muslim. I do feel sorry for certain groups right now - especially the terrified people in the hotel that got stormed into. That's another thing that makes people angry though, when I was homeless I was told I had to prove I was vulnerable enough or I can't be given accommodation, and when I finally was able to, I was put in a hostel full of addicts and violent people and felt so unsafe, I've even heard homeless people make jokes such as "maybe I should go and get a dingy and come back to the shore and I'll get a free hotel". There's many things contributing to what we are seeing currently - and ive even spoke to liberal people who are scared to question it or this new government will label them far-right and thugs, which they do seem to be doing right now. It's a sad state of affairs for everyone on all sides, I wish we could unite and realise the true core problem is the 'elites', for lack of a better word. The MPs etc. We are all fighting each other whilst they watch from their fancy houses living on massive wages whilst us peasants are in a cost of living crisis.

[Axl Jax 634]

4 minutes ago, Bronco said:

Meanwhile a white man rapes a kid in England and gets to compete in the Olympics.

Someone arrested in Liverpool for hitting a copper got 2 months today. Climate activists got 5 years for sitting in a zoom meeting.

The 2 tier narrative is a racist trope started by the far right during the BLM protests in 2020. 

What they ignore is it was revealled last week that the only protests in London where police where given authorisation to use batton rounds was the BLM protests - it was denied for EDL protests in London the same year. That's 2 tier policing. 

We don't have uncontrolled immigration in this country. We control it perfectly, because we know that second we change the system it will lead to multiple bankruptcies of leading UK universities, a total collapse of the adult social care sector and an uncontrollable rise in NHS waiting lists and a collapse of emergency care. 

Rotherham and Rochdale were horrendous, but having met one of the social workers who finally got the story public. The biggest issue was the local police saw a bunch of teenage girls having sex and decided they were sluts who weren't worth the resources. 

If papabears and mamabears are so angry at grooming gangs then where were the riots over the Bryn Estyn scandal? Where were the riots over the Kincora scandal? Where were the riots over Jimmy Saville & Leon Brittain? How do these people protect kids by trying to burn down hotels with kids screaming for help inside? If these papabears and mamabears are so protective why are they going out supporting the EDL/BNP et  which have had multiple high ranking members convicted of child sex crimes? Why do they support Tommy Robinson who made a career and a name for himself by making repeated attempts to collapse the Rotherham grooming gangs trial and prevent the victims getting justice? 

How do these riots you're trying to justify help or protect kids? The charity I work for works with kids in the care system, and we've had numerous kids this week phoning us in tears petrified of going outside. We've had death threats for posting pictures showing we work with non-white kids on some programmes. We've had to cancel all of our support sessions this week on police advice because of the risk from idiots talking about civil war and bullshit edl nonsense. We've had to evacuate our office today as its a potential riots target.

What kids are being protected by any of these bullshit pogroms? Who's protecting our kids, who have already had to go into care for protection from idiots, when they're entire support network is getting threatened with violence?

Why are the unaccompanied refugee children I work with being targeted by idiots pushing the same nonsense as you? These kids have fled warzones. Some have been trafficked into this country for god knows what. And now simply for not being white they're getting attacked! They're accomodation vandalised or worse. How is that protecting them? If I'm to believe that thugs care about kids, why are victims of sex trafficking being attacked by people who talk exactly like you. 

I agree with pretty much all you say. I was just pointing out the deep rooted xenophobia that's causing much of it, amongst other reasons.

[Leblanc 2,494]

16 minutes ago, Axl Jax said:

Unfortunately it looks like civil war is about to kick off massively here - I've just read elon musks recent tweets and although I don't like much of what he says, I'm so glad he's putting the uncontrolled immigration issue out there on such a wide platform. Everyone should be treated the same regardless of colour - the reason people are losing their sh** is because.. Well prime example - a white man gets 2 years in jail for selling anti immigration stickers yet a non white muslim man r*pes a 12 year old girl repeatedly and only gets community service. Of course the racist thugs are just using it as an opportunity to spew hate and commit violence however there's a lot of protective dads and mamabears who won't stand for this - and they feel that there is two teir policing and under a Starmer government will get much worse. Just to clarify I'm not saying race or religion makes you anymore of a predator however people who have grown up in places like Rochdale and Rotherham feel they've been ignored and gaslighted all their life due to the lack of arrests of grooming gangs. After the last few years with covid, the lockdowns, its all contributing to this perfect storm we are seeing right now. The only thing is - we shouldn't be attacking immigrants for it - we should be blaming the government for the lack of border control. Its not an immigrants issue - its a national security issue.

Edit- i feel its also to do with the rise of social media, especially things like tiktok and misinformation. For example the guy who stabbed the kids in Southport was born in Wales to Rwandan parents, Rwanda is a predominantly Christian country so he's probably not even a Muslim. I do feel sorry for certain groups right now - especially the terrified people in the hotel that got stormed into. That's another thing that makes people angry though, when I was homeless I was told I had to prove I was vulnerable enough or I can't be given accommodation, and when I finally was able to, I was put in a hostel full of addicts and violent people and felt so unsafe, I've even heard homeless people make jokes such as "maybe I should go and get a dingy and come back to the shore and I'll get a free hotel". There's many things contributing to what we are seeing currently - and ive even spoke to liberal people who are scared to question it or this new government will label them far-right and thugs, which they do seem to be doing right now. It's a sad state of affairs for everyone on all sides, I wish we could unite and realise the true core problem is the 'elites', for lack of a better word. The MPs etc. We are all fighting each other whilst they watch from their fancy houses living on massive wages whilst us peasants are in a cost of living crisis.

Genuinely appreciate you writing this, I think any genuine attempt to de-escalate what's going on right now has to be willing to accept that misinformation or not, there are genuine valid concerns and grievances which often get labelled as whatever-phobic. Which tbh that attitude has created the 'common sense' right wing pendulum swing we are seeing right now. 

Honestly it was stupidly refreshing to hear someone on some podcast the other day talk about being asked 'if they're left or right?' and them just being like 'well, on what issue? what's the issue?' we need to bring that attitude back to fight the bs tribalism politics has become.

 

[Celloo Deng 56,332]

35 minutes ago, Axl Jax said:

Unfortunately it looks like civil war is about to kick off massively here - I've just read elon musks recent tweets and although I don't like much of what he says, I'm so glad he's putting the uncontrolled immigration issue out there on such a wide platform. Everyone should be treated the same regardless of colour - the reason people are losing their sh** is because.. Well prime example - a white man gets 2 years in jail for selling anti immigration stickers yet a non white muslim man r*pes a 12 year old girl repeatedly and only gets community service. Of course the racist thugs are just using it as an opportunity to spew hate and commit violence however there's a lot of protective dads and mamabears who won't stand for this - and they feel that there is two teir policing and under a Starmer government will get much worse. Just to clarify I'm not saying race or religion makes you anymore of a predator however people who have grown up in places like Rochdale and Rotherham feel they've been ignored and gaslighted all their life due to the lack of arrests of grooming gangs. After the last few years with covid, the lockdowns, its all contributing to this perfect storm we are seeing right now. The only thing is - we shouldn't be attacking immigrants for it - we should be blaming the government for the lack of border control. Its not an immigrants issue - its a national security issue.

Edit- i feel its also to do with the rise of social media, especially things like tiktok and misinformation. For example the guy who stabbed the kids in Southport was born in Wales to Rwandan parents, Rwanda is a predominantly Christian country so he's probably not even a Muslim. I do feel sorry for certain groups right now - especially the terrified people in the hotel that got stormed into. That's another thing that makes people angry though, when I was homeless I was told I had to prove I was vulnerable enough or I can't be given accommodation, and when I finally was able to, I was put in a hostel full of addicts and violent people and felt so unsafe, I've even heard homeless people make jokes such as "maybe I should go and get a dingy and come back to the shore and I'll get a free hotel". There's many things contributing to what we are seeing currently - and ive even spoke to liberal people who are scared to question it or this new government will label them far-right and thugs, which they do seem to be doing right now. It's a sad state of affairs for everyone on all sides, I wish we could unite and realise the true core problem is the 'elites', for lack of a better word. The MPs etc. We are all fighting each other whilst they watch from their fancy houses living on massive wages whilst us peasants are in a cost of living crisis.

The common denominator these oxygen thief thugs should be looking for is radicalised men, not POC, but they have selective brain function when it comes to “protecting the children”

[Axl Jax 634]

3 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

I mean yeah it's definitely a yikes. I wasn't giving my personal opinion, just the deep rooted xenophobia among other reasons that's fuelling this. Also i believe as someone else pointed out, covid has also been theorised to cause changes to the brain. There's a lot that's causing this, but I believe it's largely deep rooted xenophobia that people have, especially those from towns where the children who were R worded were gaslighted and the predators given life long anonymity.

R*** has no colour, no ethnicity. It's just predators being predators.

[HelloHangoverz 17,452]

Just now, Leblanc said:

Genuinely appreciate you writing this, I think any genuine attempt to de-escalate what's going on right now has to be willing to accept that misinformation or not, there are genuine valid concerns and grievances which often get labelled as whatever-phobic. Which tbh that attitude has created the 'common sense' right wing pendulum swing we are seeing right now. 

Honestly it was stupidly refreshing to hear someone on some podcast the other day talk about being asked 'if they're left or right?' and them just being like 'well, on what issue? what's the issue?' we need to bring that attitude back to fight the bs tribalism politics has become.

 

To be honest, these concerns aren't valid if they're founded on straight up lies. They said this Axel guy was a Muslim, that turned out to be false, they said he was an immigrant, that turned out to be false. It's not like we should just "go with it anyway" just because there's a strength of feeling. This had nothing to do with immigration. Like let's respect the truth above all else and not let that slide for anything.

I see what you mean about tribalism though.