Ziggy 10,762 Posted August 2, 2024 Share Posted August 2, 2024 14 minutes ago, MonsterofFame said: That's the thing though. They're really not good people. Both of them became very arrogant and egotistical ever since their peak. I recently came across a podcast that Bonnie McKee was featured on from years ago and she explained how she started working with Katy and Luke. Basically Katy felt threatened by her and didn't want her involved or working with Luke at all. Luke reached out to Bonnie without telling Katy and invited her for a TD era recording session. She said Katy didn't want her there at all. Katy treated Bonnie like crap and only started being nice to her once Bonnie came up with the whole idea for Teenage Dream. So Katy basically used Bonnie for her ideas and songwriting and then disposed of her once she got her success. Makes complete sense why Katy hasn't tapped Bonnie since Prism despite Bonnie being almost as critical to TD and Prism's success as Luke. mhmm exactly. Katy Perry being bosom buddies with Ellen for years kinda sums things up too lol kind of a callous person desperate to be funny and cool 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen 30,298 Posted August 2, 2024 Share Posted August 2, 2024 10 hours ago, WhiteWitch said: Cause they can still serve and be the moment again. But if they can't, that's okay.... nobody can be the moment forever. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterofFame 1,780 Posted August 2, 2024 Share Posted August 2, 2024 18 minutes ago, HelloHangoverz said: omGGGG that's tea have you got a link to the podcast? https://pandora.app.link/BnaygfoEJLb Ross Golan's podcast episode 9 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelloHangoverz 15,700 Posted August 2, 2024 Share Posted August 2, 2024 Just now, MonsterofFame said: https://pandora.app.link/BnaygfoEJLb Ross Golan's podcast episode 9 ty my head is filled with broken mirrors, so many I can't look away 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guillaume Hamon 6,027 Posted August 2, 2024 Share Posted August 2, 2024 5 hours ago, Bowman said: If there’s one thing I hope we get out from this downfall is that the media can finally stop comparing Gaga and Katy and people like Nicki, both can stay tf away. Literally thank god Gaga has tried to not interact with them as such I remember when Gaga used an ice spice& Nicki song for a TikTok not so long ago... Barbz were like "they all come back to Nicki eventually... They all done... " as if Gaga was some kind of traitor ( how? ) now crawling back to Nicki ( how again? ). 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaGame 3,093 Posted August 2, 2024 Share Posted August 2, 2024 1 hour ago, Guillaume Hamon said: Barbz were like "they all come back to Nicki eventually... They all done... " as if Gaga was some kind of traitor ( how? ) now crawling back to Nicki ( how again? ). They are the worst and most delusional fanbase ever. LG7? CANCELLED 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Togekiss 2,351 Posted August 2, 2024 Share Posted August 2, 2024 When we all said “justice for Applause” back in 2014 we really manifested something. Oh wait, this situation was the result of Katy’s choices building a daydream 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimotheeChalamet 4,825 Posted August 2, 2024 Share Posted August 2, 2024 2 hours ago, GagaGame said: They are the worst and most delusional fanbase ever. Die hard katycats are up there too 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chromaticainmyhead 6,357 Posted August 2, 2024 Share Posted August 2, 2024 16 hours ago, WhiteWitch said: I can’t explain why but somehow this feels… cruel. I absolutely agree on her career not going in a positive direction, and it’s really at a crisis point. I even giggle at the jab at “even the gays won’t listen to”. I think it’s bad, but so embarrassingly bad it’s better to forget it was even a thing because yikes. I would be mortified and not well in this situation and definitely spiral. Somehow I struggle with both Katy Perry and Nicki Minaj right now. I just feel… bad for them. I don’t get the sense that either are bad people, but both are also clearly not doing/behaving great. I just genuinely hope things do turn around and they can both get it back together soon. Cause they can still serve and be the moment again. I agree to disagree. Katy and Nicki are huge sympathy holders and they are still loved and I think for what they did with their art it is completely ok to have those sympathies with them. However, in 2024 it is ignorant to defend your fav when she's collaborating with a famously known producer - rapist - asshole and trying to embrace that collab as some sort of postmodern 2024 new wave feminism twist, when there are still people out there who he abused that didn't get their reparation and proper healing and he NEVER had to face any proper consequences until Katy or whoever called him to work with her. Had he been in jail or sth I would argue that the amount of hating on Katy for collabing with him could be too much but that never was the case. She CHOSE to work with him even though he never faced any circumstances. How is it possible nobody is seriously questioning what it means that someone of Katy's calibre is working with that producer? That collaboration with him is paving the way for so many men in this industry that are like him that now understand, even after all that happened, there he is, still working with Katy Perry producing lead singles. All the people involved knew what it meant and what message it conveys. Yet, so many on here just pray that this Katy "hate train" is finally over so that she can have her true comeback. Is it so hard for your teenage memories to acknowledge that she might be or had become a total no-go? Same with Nicki. fan-tas-tique, chic, freak, slaaaay 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaGame 3,093 Posted August 2, 2024 Share Posted August 2, 2024 I still find it annoying that KatyCats are mostly men, and they deny that Kesha told the truth about Dr. Luke. LG7? CANCELLED Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteWitch 720 Posted August 3, 2024 Share Posted August 3, 2024 5 hours ago, chromaticainmyhead said: I agree to disagree. Katy and Nicki are huge sympathy holders and they are still loved and I think for what they did with their art it is completely ok to have those sympathies with them. However, in 2024 it is ignorant to defend your fav when she's collaborating with a famously known producer - rapist - asshole and trying to embrace that collab as some sort of postmodern 2024 new wave feminism twist, when there are still people out there who he abused that didn't get their reparation and proper healing and he NEVER had to face any proper consequences until Katy or whoever called him to work with her. Had he been in jail or sth I would argue that the amount of hating on Katy for collabing with him could be too much but that never was the case. She CHOSE to work with him even though he never faced any circumstances. How is it possible nobody is seriously questioning what it means that someone of Katy's calibre is working with that producer? That collaboration with him is paving the way for so many men in this industry that are like him that now understand, even after all that happened, there he is, still working with Katy Perry producing lead singles. All the people involved knew what it meant and what message it conveys. Yet, so many on here just pray that this Katy "hate train" is finally over so that she can have her true comeback. Is it so hard for your teenage memories to acknowledge that she might be or had become a total no-go? Same with Nicki. This was not intended as criticism of the post but the skit itself, and I don’t think you got the point. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteWitch 720 Posted August 3, 2024 Share Posted August 3, 2024 11 hours ago, Stephen said: But if they can't, that's okay.... nobody can be the moment forever. I agree Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onlygaga 1,161 Posted August 3, 2024 Share Posted August 3, 2024 “it’s gonna be her new album, the one that the gays won’t even listen to” now, that’s an insult Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALGAYDO 30,312 Posted August 3, 2024 Share Posted August 3, 2024 Katherine over here working with known rapists and some of y’all feel bad for her? Thats wild. If she was working with someone who raped someone you personally knew instead of Kesha, would you still feel bad for her being cancelled? Hmmm 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NileVegas2006 1 Posted August 3, 2024 Share Posted August 3, 2024 6 hours ago, chromaticainmyhead said: I agree to disagree. Katy and Nicki are huge sympathy holders and they are still loved and I think for what they did with their art it is completely ok to have those sympathies with them. However, in 2024 it is ignorant to defend your fav when she's collaborating with a famously known producer - rapist - asshole and trying to embrace that collab as some sort of postmodern 2024 new wave feminism twist, when there are still people out there who he abused that didn't get their reparation and proper healing and he NEVER had to face any proper consequences until Katy or whoever called him to work with her. Had he been in jail or sth I would argue that the amount of hating on Katy for collabing with him could be too much but that never was the case. She CHOSE to work with him even though he never faced any circumstances. How is it possible nobody is seriously questioning what it means that someone of Katy's calibre is working with that producer? That collaboration with him is paving the way for so many men in this industry that are like him that now understand, even after all that happened, there he is, still working with Katy Perry producing lead singles. All the people involved knew what it meant and what message it conveys. Yet, so many on here just pray that this Katy "hate train" is finally over so that she can have her true comeback. Is it so hard for your teenage memories to acknowledge that she might be or had become a total no-go? Same with Nicki. (Hello, it's my first time commenting after being a lurker ) I definitely agree with that. As sad as it is for me to somewhat see Katy going through this, it's undeniable that it's her choice of Dr. Luke + that video and the mess that came after it was really deserved. I hope Kesha is ok through all of this. Speaking of her and Dr Luke, I've started to question how much a sizable portion GP cares about the Dr Luke thing unfortunately.. I have talked to people spanning a few discords, and a ton of people I've met unfortunately either do not believe her or take her genuine problems with him with a grain of salt. Like one of them flat out said he takes Kesha's word with a huge skeptic lens. The only other person that i talk to daily that stands with Kesha other than me is another friend who's also a person that keeps up with popular culture. Any problems they had with Katy stemmed from the music she made and her overall image. So it's like yeah, they're opposed to woman's world but they don't stand with Kesha which is a tragedy to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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