Trump FLIPS on Project 2025

[Ladle Ghoulash 52,866]

25 minutes ago, faysalaaa said:

Considering its election season, we will be talking alot about politics, and seeing how people are acting here, im gonna try to do my best to ignore anyone that mocks, doesnt make an argument, and doesnt argue in good faith. Or else every topic will end in drama and people being nasty.

Im also gonna stop defending myself from being a Trump supporter because thats useless.

I mean, in all fairness, the OP was in insanely bad faith and was motivated almost entirely by the desire for vindication. 

[faysalaaa 5,336]

2 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

I mean, in all fairness, the OP was in insanely bad faith and was motivated almost entirely by the desire for vindication. 

Sorry can you rephrase that? I did not understand

[faysalaaa 5,336]

4 minutes ago, Lukasson said:

Thanks

Yes ill try my best to do that starting now. Im fine with harsh criticism, but comments made to create drama will be fully ignored to avoid all this mess. I will only respond to comments engaging with my arguments, and ignore any personal attacks. I always feel the need to defend myself, but its clearly useless and its creating more drama.

[Lukasson 508]

7 minutes ago, faysalaaa said:

Yes ill try my best to do that starting now. Im fine with harsh criticism, but comments made to create drama will be fully ignored to avoid all this mess. I will only respond to comments engaging with my arguments, and ignore any personal attacks. I always feel the need to defend myself, but its clearly useless and its creating more drama.

Maybe thinking about why you constantly have to defend yourself is a decent start. 

[HelloHangoverz 17,452]

2 minutes ago, Lukasson said:

Maybe thinking about why you constantly have to defend yourself is a decent start. 

The woke mind virus 

[faysalaaa 5,336]

14 minutes ago, Lukasson said:

Maybe thinking about why you constantly have to defend yourself is a decent start. 

I did think about it and did not arrive to the same conclusion these members came to. So what do we do now? All I can do is continue expressing my opinion, but change my behavior of who I engage with. This way we can avoid the drama and I can continue doing what I want.

[Roughhouse Dandy 13,612]

4 minutes ago, faysalaaa said:

I did think about it and did not arrive to the same conclusion these members came to. So what do we do now? All I can do is continue expressing my opinion, but change my behavior of who I engage with. This way we can avoid the drama.

I think they meant you, as the common denominator of a lot of tension and arguments, should think about the root reason why so many of your opinions result in people here lining up to rebut them. 

There are a lot of different people with differing opinions on this site, but they don't always cause this kind of friction. 

[faysalaaa 5,336]

32 minutes ago, Roughhouse Dandy said:

I think they meant you should think, as the common denominator of a lot of tension and arguments, about the root reason why so many of your opinions result in people here lining up to rebut them. 

The conclusion I came up with is im trying to hard debate every single comment, and trying to match the energy of every disrespectful comment. Maybe I should calm down and avoid these situations, while still expressing my opinion and engaging with people that that are respectful.

The other thing could be my opinions are radical, or I give republican vibes, but I think my opinions are very moderate. So I dont know what to do with that as my opinions are my opinions! So if people dont like my opinion, and im convinced about my opinion, all I can do is try to be open minded and welcome criticism.

If you think there is something else im not seeing, you can help me understand, I know me and you also had our differences..

[HelloHangoverz 17,452]

6 minutes ago, faysalaaa said:

If you think there is something else im not seeing, you can help me understand, I know me and you also had our differences..

With all due respect it's not everybody's responsibility to educate you on why you are annoying them. There is a certain degree of self-awareness that we all have a repsonsibility to possess. Framing "oh, well maybe you could talk to me so I can understand" is just a polite way of saying "I am not willing to interrogate my own position". Not in all cases but certainly in this one given how constant and repeated the behaviour is 

[faysalaaa 5,336]

3 hours ago, HelloHangoverz said:

With all due respect it's not everybody's responsibility to educate you on why you are annoying them. There is a certain degree of self-awareness that we all have a repsonsibility to possess. Framing "oh, well maybe you could talk to me so I can understand" is just a polite way of saying "I am not willing to interrogate my own position". Not in all cases but certainly in this one given how constant and repeated the behaviour is 

The "its not my job to educate you" and "do better" argument only works on white liberals

[Lukasson 508]

This got boring really fast

[Ladle Ghoulash 52,866]

1 hour ago, faysalaaa said:

The "its not my job to educate you" and "do better" argument only works on white liberals

This kind of response is pretty much exactly what they were talking about lol

[faysalaaa 5,336]

24 minutes ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

This kind of response is pretty much exactly what they were talking about lol

But why em I responding this way? there is a reason for it. When people mock me and try to attack me, I will respond with the same energy. You dont see me acting like this with others who criticize me in a respectful way right? Do you want me to just be respectful while they mock me? Why does none of you have a problem with how they are acting?

I know all this argument is messy, but I think I need to have this talk to see where people like you are coming from.

[getbehindmybarrier 1,193]

People should be aware, that across all Forums and communities, there are certain accounts from outside the U.S, that exist to promote discord in U.S. Politics, and more directly to soften the extremism of and promote Donald Trump.

This account is routinely falling back to copy pasta phrases. They even dropped a Bernie Sanders smoke bomb to reignite previous Primary Tensions in the Democratic Party.

[Future Lovers 7,561]

23 hours ago, faysalaaa said:

Okay good for you if you think it is, its not a bad thing based on my morals and standards. While I wouldnt allow myself to be a Trump supporter, I dont think its bad to be one if you are.

You know what I'll ask since no one else is: Why is it not a bad thing to be supportive of someone like Donald Trump?