TMM90 2,975 Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 1 minute ago, Guillaume Hamon said: If you get out of the GDD millennial gay bubble she is objectively is the main force. Deal with it and I'm not even a swiftie, just looking at numbers. đ Numbers donât make anyone the Queen of Pop. Queen of numbers, maybe but not the Queen of Pop. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guillaume Hamon 5,977 Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 (edited) 4 minutes ago, TMM90 said: Numbers donât make anyone the Queen of Pop. Queen of numbers, maybe but not the Queen of Pop. Oh come on... Nearly each time Gaga gets praised here it's for the records she broke etc so it absolutely is number related... Edited July 26 by Guillaume Hamon Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addison Rae 15,123 Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 that would be madison beer sitting on his lap sipping diet pepsi Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Togekiss 2,337 Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 I voted no because we really just need to retire this conversation. Pop music is not a monarchy. Itâs actually not ANY form of government! The more you know. building a daydream 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Togekiss 2,337 Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 8 hours ago, Economy said: Depends how u measure it.  In terms of pure commercial success Taylor Swift has surpassed her tbh. Shes surpassed most of her major records with the exeption of albums sold  In terms of total actual impact I say its still Madonna  Taylor may be huge commercially but she is the definition of sell out and cheap tactics to inflate sales not to mention super generic In terms of total impact, itâs Mozart. Iâm kind of joking but also kind of not. building a daydream Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch 89,296 Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 No one will remember numbers, everybody will remember cultural impact. Whitney, Cher, Tina, Madonna, Britney, Beyoncé and also Gaga are artists that had global impact in more fields than just doing numbers.  Is Madonna THE queen? She used to be. But there are more people that deserve the credit that became before her and people that took it to the next level after her. Nevertheless for now the biggest female artist ever. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 47,013 Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 8 minutes ago, Togekiss said: In terms of total impact, itâs Mozart. Iâm kind of joking but also kind of not. I mean were talking specifically Queen of Pop... not King of all music so Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANiCURE 6 10,195 Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 She's literally the OG version of the popstar as we know today. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the Fall 3,778 Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 (edited) This should not even be a question, Madonna's impact on pop music is so widespread that the very template of what it means to be a female pop star was created by her. She was inspired by the theatrics of her idol David Bowie and brought his sense of theatre to pop, she basically redefined what a pop concert could be This is not even taking into account other ways she has influenced culture, such as her fearless advocacy for the lgbtq community at a time of massive prejudice in the midst of the aids epidemic and sexual expression for women in music Edited July 26 by King of the Fall Hey, I'm king of the world, you ought to hear my song, you come on measure me, I'm twenty inches long 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Ghosty 182 Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 Like her or not, yes. She is the original queen of pop. She had had peaks and lows but I donât think any other pop girly managed to âreturnâ and be on top of the charts (IN HER LATE 40s!!!!) like she did during her Confessions era. Â 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Togekiss 2,337 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 1 hour ago, Economy said: I mean were talking specifically Queen of Pop... not King of all music so I know but like when exactly does âpop musicâ begin? building a daydream Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 104,123 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 Are we stuck in 2005? (ïŸâăźâ)ïŸâ§*:ïœ„ïŸ đđŠ đŽđ©đ°đ¶đđ„ đ©đąđ·đŠ đ„đąđŻđ€đŠđ„ đžđ©đŠđŻ đ đžđąđŽ 17 (*ÂŽèžïœ*) âĄâĄâĄ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 47,013 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 23 minutes ago, Togekiss said: I know but like when exactly does âpop musicâ begin? Well its well established that given how long ago Mozart was that music is well established as "classical" now not pop so im pretty sure the point stands  Plus we have no evidence that Mozart was not a he so not gonna crown him "Queen" either way unless some evidence suggests otherwise Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donatellah 1,856 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 No, Bebe Rexha is 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantasmas 9,924 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 i used to be a huge Madonna hater (and of any entertainer who wasnt Gaga) but i would never deny her that title, its undisputed at this point Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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