King of the Fall 3,774 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 (edited) Katy is a relic, she represents a very specific period in pop music, she is not generational and even her old hits will never be regarded as all time pop classics. Gaga could never release another song and her legacy would be secured, what is Katy's legacy exactly? What is her artistic identity? The world is far too self aware now to take her brand of shiny but artistically hollow pop music seriously. Womans World is just a bad song, it was never going to be a hit Edited July 19 by King of the Fall Hey, I'm king of the world, you ought to hear my song, you come on measure me, I'm twenty inches long 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterBall13 1,207 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Stream woman's word by cher 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGD 11,862 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Good, the delusional Katy Cats still going after Gaga deserve this 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poker 3,636 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 (edited) 9 hours ago, Ronk said: Is Dr. Luke working with anyone else, and if so, are their careers taking a hit because of it? Edit: It appears he worked with Nicki Minaj in 2022 and Doja Cat in 2023. Are those artists being cancelled because of their association with Luke? Nicki is married to a s.o. so… and Doja made clear that she had singed a contract before Kesha’s case came to light, so she’s forced to work with him. (I’m not a Doja fan, but that’s what happened when everything came to light.) Katy is the first and only big artist that’s working with him on her own accord. It adds to injury that she mentioned she was friends with Kesha back during the witness era. Edited July 19 by Poker Kindness rules all. 5 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandauralife 654 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Play stupid games, win stupid prizes 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chromaticainmyhead 6,330 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 She could have made a big comeback. The odds were in her favor. People were listening to her old stuff again. Her music was featured on viral videos and they even began to acknoledge her as one of the big pop girls of the 2010s who are looked back to with huge sympathy. All of this together with a new release that keeps those people engaged with her would have been good conditions to make her comeback live up to the icon status she has become over the years. Yet she or whoever chose this tacky idea to basically do everything wrong one can do in this day and age. It almost seems infantile as if she purposefully wanted to record a song with one of the greatest assholes of the industry and make a feminist song with him. Now she's the ludicrous act that she may have been since day one but people were too blind to witness fan-tas-tique, chic, freak, slaaaay 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Very Gaga Holida 20,425 Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 (edited) Mag: How fake do you want the article to be? “Journalist”: Yes GGD: let’s believe it because we want to Edited July 20 by LG7 time now Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas 23,972 Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 Katy really ****ed up badly by working with D. Luke again. During the few months before the announcement I saw quite a lot of hype for her comeback and she totally ruined it by working with D. Luke. I don't know how going back to the drawing board will save the era considering it's still D. Luke who produced the album... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chathonnete 419 Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 Who is that source? "An insider" is not a source Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace 347 Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 I wanna know how she heard the demos or whatever was used to pitch this to her and didn't realize this was going to happen from second one Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEANUS 12,380 Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 On 7/19/2024 at 9:09 AM, Ronk said: Is Dr. Luke working with anyone else, and if so, are their careers taking a hit because of it? Edit: It appears he worked with Nicki Minaj in 2022 and Doja Cat in 2023. Are those artists being cancelled because of their association with Luke? Yeah they’ve all been given hell. Doja, Nicki, Kim, all of them. Kim and Doja have contracts with him though if im not mistaken? I don’t really think Katy is being “cancelled” for this tho. She’s struggled since Witness in 2017. I think her biggest plunder with all of this was that she really was primed to finally have a decent comeback IMO - pop music seems to be making a comeback and everyone was ready for her to deliver a good bop. But, she delivered a mediocre song produced by an extremely controversial producer when she could’ve worked with Max Martin, Ilya, Shellback, Cirkut, Stargate, etc. or literally anyone else because she’s Katy Perry. I think this was just the final nail in the coffin for her British social ladies with upturned pinkies, glasses clinking // xoxoTEANUS Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichAssPiss 4,690 Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 It's wild that so many artists float singles and then there's no album in sight (like Cardi's back to back #1's WAP and Up), but this album rollout didn't event consider they'd want to see how people react to pretty crucial choices (the cheesecake imagery and the DL of it all) before launching the full record with vinyl and everything already in production. It's going to be hard to course correct now. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronk 14,486 Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 10 minutes ago, TEANUS said: Yeah they’ve all been given hell. Doja, Nicki, Kim, all of them. Kim and Doja have contracts with him though if im not mistaken? I don’t really think Katy is being “cancelled” for this tho. She’s struggled since Witness in 2017. I think her biggest plunder with all of this was that she really was primed to finally have a decent comeback IMO - pop music seems to be making a comeback and everyone was ready for her to deliver a good bop. But, she delivered a mediocre song produced by an extremely controversial producer when she could’ve worked with Max Martin, Ilya, Shellback, Cirkut, Stargate, etc. or literally anyone else because she’s Katy Perry. I think this was just the final nail in the coffin for her I agree with this. But I hope it's not the final nail in the coffin for her. I would like to see her drop Luke and get her act together musically. I really love so many of her old songs. I can't allow the thought of Luke to ruin my appreciation for Katy's old music. I live outside the space time continuum. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbletea 364 Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 She doesn’t mature musically, that’s the reason why the critics and the academy hate her Even during witness/smile she was releasing those instant pop songs Which the general public lost interest with She could learn how to rebrand her image with Gaga or Taylor 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaSuperfan1 312 Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 On 7/19/2024 at 5:52 AM, tomsches said: I mean what did she expect? Taking aside the fact that she worked with dr luke and the quality of the song and the lyrics, she’s just not what’s trendy right now. Katy Perry herself, her stage name, her musical style and her aesthetic are just not what young people who stream and buy music in 2024 like. She could have made a bigger impact if she had done something completely out of the box or just something more serious or something that sounds more like what people enjoy these days. If it had been a more serious, singer-songwriter kind of thing, her chart numbers wouldn’t be so bad either Truth Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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