olive specter 1,166 Posted May 30, 2024 Share Posted May 30, 2024 1 hour ago, ALGAYDO said: Do you think she support genocide? do i think she supports genocide? probably not do i think she sees what's happening as a genocide? i don't know that's the problem with a lot of you people on this site, y'all have trouble with looking at situations from different perspective y'all think everybody has the same image of what's happening, the only difference is they are choosing the 'bad side' - when in reality they think they are on the good side and you are not Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 48,964 Posted May 30, 2024 Share Posted May 30, 2024 5 hours ago, Edonis said: OT; I'm kind of shocked that Katy of all people is sharing something since she's a proud centrist democrat. Shame that much more "progressive" celebrities continue to remain silent, even when we've seen how a simple post can increase donations to reputable charities in a matter of minutes. Im not surprised Katy would post this tbh. Theres very little controvery left. Even many Israel supporters agree this attack went too far. Its a perfectly safe tweet to post. Looks good on her image and doesnt really result in much backlash One pet peve of mine is when celebs speak out on "controversial" subjects that reach a point they arent controversial anymore and claim they are speaking out despite the "backlash and criticism" even tho in reality its very minimal. Its a very calculated thing to appear bold and righteous but in reality they wait until enough people agree with the message so that they appear good for saying the message but in reality not taking much heat. And it feels thats what Katy did here. Now that most people agree Israel went too far suddendly shes bold enough to post about it 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustTea 5,481 Posted May 30, 2024 Share Posted May 30, 2024 4 hours ago, Siena said: This issue isn’t about celebrities and we need to stop expecting every celebrity make a public opinion about everything. I’d much rather Gaga or any celebrity stay silent and make quiet donations / do their own research rather than post an insta story and call it a day. The majority of celebrities are just posting something so they can pat themselves on the back and feel like they did something. This exactly. And people jump into conclusions thinking they are "neutral" (or supporting it) if they won't post anything on insta... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALGAYDO 31,475 Posted May 30, 2024 Share Posted May 30, 2024 1 hour ago, olive specter said: do i think she supports genocide? probably not do i think she sees what's happening as a genocide? i don't know that's the problem with a lot of you people on this site, y'all have trouble with looking at situations from different perspective y'all think everybody has the same image of what's happening, the only difference is they are choosing the 'bad side' - when in reality they think they are on the good side and you are not So then why exactly are y’all mad at Gaga? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eido 3,660 Posted May 30, 2024 Share Posted May 30, 2024 And now swifties are also fighting each other now because of that Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicixs 3,464 Posted May 30, 2024 Share Posted May 30, 2024 I like to think Gaga is a silent supporter and puts her money with her mouth is instead of seeking clout. But it has bothered me that she hasn’t even given a hint of support Religion is a product to sell. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizel 593 Posted May 30, 2024 Share Posted May 30, 2024 There is countless awful things constantly going on, Gaga shouldn’t be expected to say a statement on every one of them. It’s a very messy situation, you’ve got a terrorist organisation running the country. Then Israel’s over-retaliation. Then also misinformation being spread. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windowlicker 3,443 Posted May 30, 2024 Share Posted May 30, 2024 (edited) The posts in here calling for Gaga's continued silence are beyond embarrassing. Of course she's not obligated to say a damn thing, but this is a woman who has made a career off positioning herself as a voice for marginalized and disenfranchised communities. She calls herself a philanthropist, and you all are shocked people are looking to her to be a powerful voice in this? Anyone who isn't expecting her to say anything has not been paying attention. However, I'm sure she's going to use that voice to urge us all to vote come November and glaze over the fact that she's been silent while more and more of her peers continue to join the loud majority of those asking for this to finally end. Edited May 30, 2024 by PropaGaga 3 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyxGaGa 1,674 Posted May 30, 2024 Share Posted May 30, 2024 hate to say it but yall fence sitters can keep staying apolitical the reason and the only one u need is because what is happening is a GENOCIDE that’s what it is wanna kno the last major one we had?? it started a world war this isn’t some petty squabble between two nations this is a nation exhausting all power just to already stomp on something that’s already in a. corner u should speak up regardless of ur class, race, identity because what’s happening is fking appalling 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyxGaGa 1,674 Posted May 30, 2024 Share Posted May 30, 2024 ITS NOT fking CLOUT TO CALL THE PEOPLE OUT FOR COMMITTING A GENOCIDE THE MORE PEOPLE SPEAK AND CALL IT WHAT IT IS THE HARDER IS IT FOR THE IDF TO SPIN IT AS SOME FORM OF DEFENSE AGAINST TERRORIST DEFENSES Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyxGaGa 1,674 Posted May 30, 2024 Share Posted May 30, 2024 so yes major celebrities speaking out is good because it’s going to make so many look fking goofy af if they ever step foot in tel aviv after this bloodshed of a GENOCIDE Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monstertoronto 9,390 Posted May 30, 2024 Share Posted May 30, 2024 9 hours ago, Ziggy said: …it shouldn’t be about *her best interest??? There’s thousands of children being firebombed??? she doesn’t have to be a voice for everything but this is way beyond pale Celebrities are not politicians. They are entertainers and musicians and their job is making music for all people to enjoy together regardless. They can provide inspiration and be the centre of fandom communities, but it isn’t their job to speak out on behalf of their “constituency”. It absolutely unfair to put expectations on people you don’t really know, to wade into extremely divisive world events and political issues just because they’re famous. If any celebrity chooses to say something that’s their choice, but there should not be any demand for anyone to speak up at the risk of being labelled a disappointment, or cancelled. Those are your personal expectations and that is your agenda that you are imposing on another person, who you don’t even really know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,379 Posted May 30, 2024 Share Posted May 30, 2024 22 minutes ago, monstertoronto said: Celebrities are not politicians. They are entertainers and musicians and their job is making music for all people to enjoy together regardless. They can provide inspiration and be the centre of fandom communities, but it isn’t their job to speak out on behalf of their “constituency”. It absolutely unfair to put expectations on people you don’t really know, to wade into extremely divisive world events and political issues just because they’re famous. If any celebrity chooses to say something that’s their choice, but there should not be any demand for anyone to speak up at the risk of being labelled a disappointment, or cancelled. Those are your personal expectations and that is your agenda that you are imposing on another person, who you don’t even really know. lol Gaga has made herself known as the political activist of the pop girls. She prides herself on being more than an entertainer and a musician and always has. It's not the LMs' fault they expect her to say something when the president she fought tooth and nail to get elected is dragging her own country into complicity in a genocide. And, as far as I've seen, most fans excuse her silence anyway because they are so fond of coddling her into mediocrity in general, I guess. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsemanche 92,814 Posted May 30, 2024 Share Posted May 30, 2024 8 hours ago, G U C C I said: I’m begging for an age restriction on this forum. ¿ im 26 babes 8 hours ago, G U C C I said: Being a centrist on any issue is a persons right. You don’t have to take sides in every god damn thing! Whether it’s human rights or something frivolous, people can step back if they feel like they can’t be apart of a solution. Nothing Gaga could do would help lead to a solution. Take your anger out on people who can. Like the leaders who are suppose to represent the views of their constituents. You do need to take a side against genocide and ethnic cleansing and colonialism actually. You can be a centrist about what color of skirts you like on a person but being 'neutral' about this is coward and despicable. Either you're with the colonized people who are getting brutally erased from existence or you're on the murderer's side, it's really not that complicated. I know Gaga won't change much, but a word on her spcials would help to some extent, even if it's simply for donations like other celebs have done. As I said before, I'm not counting on celebs to be saviors because that's childish anyway and there are much more important things to be thinking about but this would be a plus for sure. Soft, soothing, and succulent 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monstertoronto 9,390 Posted May 30, 2024 Share Posted May 30, 2024 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Didymus said: lol Gaga has made herself known as the political activist of the pop girls. She prides herself on being more than an entertainer and a musician and always has. It's not the LMs' fault they expect her to say something when the president she fought tooth and nail to get elected is dragging her own country into complicity in a genocide. And, as far as I've seen, most fans excuse her silence anyway because they are so fond of coddling her into mediocrity in general, I guess. “Lol” is not an effective opening conducive to an actual discussion. People are very emotional and invested iin all sides of this ongoing very complicated issue. I have both passionate Jewish friends and vociferous Palestine supporter friends, and it is a very nuanced and difficult topic that isn’t as black and white as the herd mentality on a pop culture fan forum wants it to be. Edited May 30, 2024 by monstertoronto Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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