Pedro Pascal advocates for Palestine

[KeepOnSwimming 682]

5 minutes ago, Edonis said:

I was going to go line by line to refute your talking points but then I realized that someone this racist, posting flat-out ahistorical nonsense that isn't even espoused by the biggest anti-Arab pundits (Palestinians didn't exist until the 1960s, I mean really??? Next thing you know, you'll claim that they're actually from Saudi Arabia) wouldn't actually care so it's not worth it. Continue believing that Israel is some holy country that can do no wrong and that everyone else in the world is anti-Semitic, including other Jews, because they don't agree with what's been quite literally one of the worst human rights violations in modern history.

If you did read, I did critizise Israel. I also did say, we should call that out. I dont believe its a holy country. I literally said its doing war crimes.

Palestineans did in fact not call themselves that as a community before, but go off sis. I did not say they didnt exist. Maybe learn how to better understand what you read, without interpreting too much of you own bs. I also didnt claim they are from Saudi Arabia. But yeah. 

Lol, yeah, me, half Indian guy, raising a black kid and also one from the Balkans, worked in Asia and South America - sure I am a racist. Gurl, get some manners and decency. 

See, I voice a different opinion than you and all you can do is throw around with very disgusting accusations. Thats just poor. Sorry you werent raised better. Have the day you deserve 

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6 hours ago, KeepOnSwimming said:

First, its not.

To A: Maybe YOU read some history. Cause I think after WW2 we all can agree the jews needed a safe space/a country for themselves. But you can not attack someone (like hamas did multiple times) and then complain if you lose. Wich happened to quite a few countries who tried to fck with Israel. And also, I am against illegal settlements, but I think thats a different topic. 

To C: Uhm, no. Is Israel committing war crimes? Yes. Should we critizise Israel for not trying hard enough to save civilians? Absolutely.

But its in fact not a genocide. Maybe stop spreading a terrorist narrative. 

#freepalestinefromhamas

Also, from river to the sea - thats a genocide call. Maybe YOU sit down and learn some history. Palestineans didnt even call themselves that, until the mid 60s. And a big part of their identity is a hate for jews (just like most of the other arab nations).

The amount of jews in all of the neighbor states of Israel dropped by 98% (!!) since the 1940s while at the same time the population of Arabs in Israel increased at 1000% in Israel. The very coutry yall accuse of genocide. Maybe get your facts straight. But yeah, lets just assume they wanna kill all Palestineans. Even though they are not invading Westjordan and its people wich are also Palestineans.  Wich wouldnt make any sense if they wanted to get rid of all of them (cause thats what makes a genocide - the intention, plans and also its execution to kill a whole specific group of people. Ever looked at Israels Military? If they wanted to do a genocide, gurl they would be done already months ago. 

 

Lets call out Israel without spreading a terrorist narrative that just feeds into antisemitism, just maybe. 

 

There wont ever be peace in Gaza without an Israeli occupation. Just like there wouldnt have been peace in Nazi Europe, if noone occupied us and forces us to rethink what we did. Without occupations in Europe at the time guess what we would be? A buch of hateful Nazis. Does that sound great to you? No? Then I think you wouldn't wish that to Gaza...so maybe dont spread false narritives. 

Without lies, Islam dies.

And thank god, Hamas doesnt kill its own people and cares so much about their civilians that they rather built tunnels for terroristic purposes with money they internationally got for actually building hospitals and infrastructure. Wich they then didnt built for their people, cause terror stuff is more important. Also using their people as shields. Yeah, lets protect that. 

To summarize this “Hello Gagadaily, I’m a genocide-loving Zionist” 

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7 hours ago, KeepOnSwimming said:

First, its not.

To A: Maybe YOU read some history. Cause I think after WW2 we all can agree the jews needed a safe space/a country for themselves. But you can not attack someone (like hamas did multiple times) and then complain if you lose. Wich happened to quite a few countries who tried to fck with Israel. And also, I am against illegal settlements, but I think thats a different topic. 

To C: Uhm, no. Is Israel committing war crimes? Yes. Should we critizise Israel for not trying hard enough to save civilians? Absolutely.

But its in fact not a genocide. Maybe stop spreading a terrorist narrative. 

#freepalestinefromhamas

Also, from river to the sea - thats a genocide call. Maybe YOU sit down and learn some history. Palestineans didnt even call themselves that, until the mid 60s. And a big part of their identity is a hate for jews (just like most of the other arab nations).

The amount of jews in all of the neighbor states of Israel dropped by 98% (!!) since the 1940s while at the same time the population of Arabs in Israel increased at 1000% in Israel. The very coutry yall accuse of genocide. Maybe get your facts straight. But yeah, lets just assume they wanna kill all Palestineans. Even though they are not invading Westjordan and its people wich are also Palestineans.  Wich wouldnt make any sense if they wanted to get rid of all of them (cause thats what makes a genocide - the intention, plans and also its execution to kill a whole specific group of people. Ever looked at Israels Military? If they wanted to do a genocide, gurl they would be done already months ago. 

 

Lets call out Israel without spreading a terrorist narrative that just feeds into antisemitism, just maybe. 

 

There wont ever be peace in Gaza without an Israeli occupation. Just like there wouldnt have been peace in Nazi Europe, if noone occupied us and forces us to rethink what we did. Without occupations in Europe at the time guess what we would be? A buch of hateful Nazis. Does that sound great to you? No? Then I think you wouldn't wish that to Gaza...so maybe dont spread false narritives. 

Without lies, Islam dies.

And thank god, Hamas doesnt kill its own people and cares so much about their civilians that they rather built tunnels for terroristic purposes with money they internationally got for actually building hospitals and infrastructure. Wich they then didnt built for their people, cause terror stuff is more important. Also using their people as shields. Yeah, lets protect that. 

Not you falling for Israel’s propaganda 

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8 hours ago, KeepOnSwimming said:

Cause I think after WW2 we all can agree the jews needed a safe space/a country for themselves

 

8 hours ago, KeepOnSwimming said:

There wont ever be peace in Gaza without an Israeli occupation. Just like there wouldnt have been peace in Nazi Europe, if noone occupied us and forces us to rethink what we did

So, does this mean Gazans are the Nazis that need to be killed or are they the Jews that need to be relocated to someone else's land?

Like, you're either advocating for the displacement of Palestinians, the deaths of Palestinians, or the occupation of Palestinians.

All are sh*tty things to advocate for 

And yes, it IS a genocide. That's not even up for debate.

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8 hours ago, KeepOnSwimming said:

First, its not.

To A: Maybe YOU read some history. Cause I think after WW2 we all can agree the jews needed a safe space/a country for themselves. But you can not attack someone (like hamas did multiple times) and then complain if you lose. Wich happened to quite a few countries who tried to fck with Israel. And also, I am against illegal settlements, but I think thats a different topic. 

To C: Uhm, no. Is Israel committing war crimes? Yes. Should we critizise Israel for not trying hard enough to save civilians? Absolutely.

But its in fact not a genocide. Maybe stop spreading a terrorist narrative. 

#freepalestinefromhamas

Also, from river to the sea - thats a genocide call. Maybe YOU sit down and learn some history. Palestineans didnt even call themselves that, until the mid 60s. And a big part of their identity is a hate for jews (just like most of the other arab nations).

The amount of jews in all of the neighbor states of Israel dropped by 98% (!!) since the 1940s while at the same time the population of Arabs in Israel increased at 1000% in Israel. The very coutry yall accuse of genocide. Maybe get your facts straight. But yeah, lets just assume they wanna kill all Palestineans. Even though they are not invading Westjordan and its people wich are also Palestineans.  Wich wouldnt make any sense if they wanted to get rid of all of them (cause thats what makes a genocide - the intention, plans and also its execution to kill a whole specific group of people. Ever looked at Israels Military? If they wanted to do a genocide, gurl they would be done already months ago. 

 

Lets call out Israel without spreading a terrorist narrative that just feeds into antisemitism, just maybe. 

 

There wont ever be peace in Gaza without an Israeli occupation. Just like there wouldnt have been peace in Nazi Europe, if noone occupied us and forces us to rethink what we did. Without occupations in Europe at the time guess what we would be? A buch of hateful Nazis. Does that sound great to you? No? Then I think you wouldn't wish that to Gaza...so maybe dont spread false narritives. 

Without lies, Islam dies.

And thank god, Hamas doesnt kill its own people and cares so much about their civilians that they rather built tunnels for terroristic purposes with money they internationally got for actually building hospitals and infrastructure. Wich they then didnt built for their people, cause terror stuff is more important. Also using their people as shields. Yeah, lets protect that. 

You'd think 8 months of genocide would wake some people up but nope

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25 minutes ago, PartySick said:

 

So, does this mean Gazans are the Nazis that need to be killed or are they the Jews that need to be relocated to someone else's land?

Like, you're either advocating for the displacement of Palestinians, the deaths of Palestinians, or the occupation of Palestinians.

All are sh*tty things to advocate for 

And yes, it IS a genocide. That's not even up for debate.

No it does not. It means they need to get rid of Hamas and after that they need to stay for a while and help built things up again, making sure the situation doesnt repeat. 

So occupation, because there are radicalized people who have fallen for Hamas (just like we did for the Nazis) is a bad thing? Sometimes things need to be controlled.

I am advocating for a Hamas free Palestine where Israel helps building it up again. While all you want is a ceasefire (that wouldnt even last) and lets have terrorists in power. That sounds terrible to me.

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The mental gymnastic I have to go through everytime this topic is brought up on this website...

It is a GENOCIDE, there is nothing to argue here. I can't believe that in 2024, with social media and the easier access to information, people still choose to give Israel the benefit of the doubt. It's been terrorising Palestinians even before our parents were born. Wake up, jesus.

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1 minute ago, KeepOnSwimming said:

No it does not. It means they need to get rid of Hamas and after that they need to stay for a while and help built things up again, making sure the situation doesnt repeat. 

So occupation, because there are radicalized people who have fallen for Hamas (just like we did for the Nazis) is a bad thing? Sometimes things need to be controlled.

I am advocating for a Hamas free Palestine where Israel helps building it up again. While all you want is a ceasefire (that wouldnt even last) and lets have terrorists in power. That sounds terrible to me.

Simple, leave them alone. Stop poking them, and they will stop retaliating.

Hamas is a product of years of terrorism from Israel. Do you really expect them to sit and wait for bombs to fall down on them?

I'm not justifying anything Hamas have done, but stop this narrative of the perfect world when Israel clearly doesn't give a single f*ck. Had they not orchestrated massacres over the years, Palestine would have probably never had Hamas.

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Just now, lordgagx said:

It's been terrorising Palestinians even before our parents were born. Wake up, jesus.

And vice versa. Look at the number of jews in Arab countries/Palestine and look at the numbers of Arabs/Palestineans in Israel. 

A Palestinean can live in Israel but an Israeli not in Palestine. So make your argument make sense.

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3 minutes ago, KeepOnSwimming said:

No it does not. It means they need to get rid of Hamas and after that they need to stay for a while and help built things up again, making sure the situation doesnt repeat. 

So occupation, because there are radicalized people who have fallen for Hamas (just like we did for the Nazis) is a bad thing? Sometimes things need to be controlled.

I am advocating for a Hamas free Palestine where Israel helps building it up again. While all you want is a ceasefire (that wouldnt even last) and lets have terrorists in power. That sounds terrible to me.

Zionists are the terrorists. Stop trying to twist things around. Settlers only destroy and kill. They're literally doing it in front of your eyes as we speak and somehow you're still convinced we need them to rebuild Palestine, the same Palestine they've been destroying since 1948. Do you even hear yourself or are you just reciting colonial ideology blindly? Do you have ANY understanding of what armed resistance means? Of why it is born? Of history itself? Jfc

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2 minutes ago, KeepOnSwimming said:

And vice versa. Look at the number of jews in Arab countries/Palestine and look at the numbers of Arabs/Palestineans in Israel. 

A Palestinean can live in Israel but an Israeli not in Palestine. So make your argument make sense.

Because WHY would they want their colonizers to coexist with them???????????????? Oh my god this is hopeless.

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3 minutes ago, alsemanche said:

Because WHY would they want their colonizers to coexist with them???????????????? Oh my god this is hopeless.

Why is anybody coexisting by this logic? 

Colonizing 🤡 y'all need to learn the definition of words 😅

I wonder how many of yall have the opinion Israel has no right no exist...thats tragic. 

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8 hours ago, KeepOnSwimming said:

To C: Uhm, no. Is Israel committing war crimes? Yes. Should we critizise Israel for not trying hard enough to save civilians? Absolutely.

But its in fact not a genocide. Maybe stop spreading a terrorist narrative. 

According to the United Nations, genocide is defined as follows: 

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

Killing members of the group;

Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

Currently Al Jazeera is reporting 36,096 dead in Gaza, 519 in the West Bank since the attack on October 7th which killed 1,139 Israelis.  It appears to be genocide by definition.

As Pedro Pascal puts it, all eyes on Rafah.  If the roles were reversed and some country was doing this to Israel, wouldn't that chill your blood?

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14 minutes ago, KeepOnSwimming said:

No it does not. It means they need to get rid of Hamas and after that they need to stay for a while and help built things up again, making sure the situation doesnt repeat. 

So occupation, because there are radicalized people who have fallen for Hamas (just like we did for the Nazis) is a bad thing? Sometimes things need to be controlled.

I am advocating for a Hamas free Palestine where Israel helps building it up again. While all you want is a ceasefire (that wouldnt even last) and lets have terrorists in power. That sounds terrible to me.

Girl, the only reason Hamas has any shred of influence over Gazans is because they spread propaganda that Israel hates Palestinians.

And how does Israel try to dispell those accusations and remove the power from that propaganda?

They displace 2 million people, level the entire region, bomb refugee camps, block humanitarian aide, starve hundreds of thousands, r*pe civilians, and round survivors up into filthy, overcrowded camps before making plans to ship them to other countries.

It's the same war the US fought "against terror". We were over there saying "no, no, don't believe the terrorists who say we hate you" while firing drone strikes through elementary schools.

Israel's shown absolutely zero interest in doing anything but destroying and occupying Gaza. That's why your opinions ring so ridiculous to so many people here. 

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9 minutes ago, KeepOnSwimming said:

Why is anybody coexisting by this logic? 

Colonizing 🤡 y'all need to learn the definition of words 😅

I wonder how many of yall have the opinion Israel has no right no exist...thats tragic. 

Clearly  you're the one who needs to learn what the word means lol. My country was LITERALLY colonized by Israel and then freed through armed resistance, I live under threat of bombing every. single. day. Others in my country are literally being bobmed every single day, many had to leave their homes and relocate to safer zones, including some of my friends and their families. My village almost got bombed by Israel in 2006. They bombed a bridge right next to where I live that I used to take every single day to go to school. But sure I clearly have no knowledge or experience in what I'm talking about.

And yeah Israel shouldn't exist, neither should any colonial entity in the world. It's not that complicated. 

Edited May 30 by alsemanche