Protestor gets viciously attacked by Trump supporters

[HelloHangoverz 17,452]

7 hours ago, Natalia Kills said:

what exactly does the ceasefire entail

a cessation of fire. it's that simple 

[lavender blonde 692]

I’m not American so can somebody from there explain to me why these protest are taking place at universities? In my country both pro-Palestinian/pro-Israeli protests take place at city squares/embassies etc. Why not protest outside White House/Senate/Congress? How do professors and uni authorities have anything to do with it? 

[Tinnitus15 51,886]

Poor girl. I felt so bad for her, couldn’t believe what those idiots were doing. Jesus 

[Roughhouse Dandy 13,619]

14 minutes ago, lavender blonde said:

I’m not American so can somebody from there explain to me why these protest are taking place at universities? In my country both pro-Palestinian/pro-Israeli protests take place at city squares/embassies etc. Why not protest outside White House/Senate/Congress? How do professors and uni authorities have anything to do with it? 

I'm not sure about Ol Miss, but I know that at universities like Columbia and Brown, the students are specifically protesting not only for a ceasefire but for their universities to be transparent about where funds are going and to divest from Israel. 

[Didymus 34,380]

1 minute ago, lavender blonde said:

I’m not American so can somebody from there explain to me why these protest are taking place at universities? In my country both pro-Palestinian/pro-Israeli protests take place at city squares/embassies etc. Why not protest outside White House/Senate/Congress? How do professors and uni authorities have anything to do with it? 

1. Israeli university faculties (in particular Tel Aviv University's law and philosophy departments) have long collaborated with the Israeli army, supporting, co-developing and legally and morally covering military tactics that are widely condemned as war crimes by the international legal and humanitarian community. If you wanna dive into this, this is a good place to start. One reason to protest at a university, then, is to call for an academic boycott against these faculties.

2. Universities' tuition fees are used to invest in companies around the world, incl Israeli ones (sometimes even military ones) or ones that are economically tied to Israel in some way (ex. Google which provides critical support for the Israeli army). From Time Magazine: "About 100 U.S. colleges have reported gifts or contracts from Israel totaling $375 million over the past two decades, according to a Department of Education database." So a second reason to protest at universities is to call for an economic boycott against businesses that profit from apartheid and genocide. It is also to raise the question of transparency about how tuition money is spent.

3. History has shown that these protests are meaningful and effective. In the 80s, American student protests convinced over a hundred universities to cut ties with companies that operated in apartheid ruled South Africa. Universities often brag about this in hindsight, as a marker of moral and historical success, i.e. "being on the right side of history". Many students protesting today see themselves as a continuation of that vision, even if their university is not willing to uphold it itself.

4. Universities have divested from industries they find morally incompatible with the context of higher learning by their own volition as well. In the 90s, American colleges controversially ended their investments in the stock of the tobacco industry on moral grounds. In fact, as recently as 2006, more than 60 colleges divested from Sudan because its government was carrying out a genocide. The same moral argument was raised when Russia invaded Ukraine. So a fourth reason to protest is to call out the hypocrisy here and put pressure on these learning institutions to be morally consistent vs. performative and selective based on political reasons.

[Ziggy 14,054]

Idk how seeing this wouldn’t make a Zionist pause. Like I’d be like ok so why are these people jumping on my supposedly righteous movement. Why is it attractive to them? Bc this is wild.

also talking about people not from campuses swooping in, I only see that from the Zionist crowd. Like that loser with the cowboy hat and cigar at uchicago? Girl you do NOT go there; I can tell you THAT much. Also congrats, Columbia and Biden: you made this into an international spectacle lmao I’m so glad they’re being so humiliated. Frankly, Trump or not, he deserves to lose for being so resolute on the issue. Not budging at all. He deserves the utter humiliation to his otherwise very fine legacy bc this was 100% avoidable. It would have been easy to just make concessions but instead he sends paramilitary and emboldens weirdo alt right fringe making nice with the very bigots he ran against? It’s a comedy of errors only brought on by the hubris of a man who’s been so isolated by the halls of power he thought he was immune.

[olive specter 1,166]

10 hours ago, 27monster27 said:

Third thing, normalize publicly exposing information on these people. They chose to act like this, so they should face the consequences of having their own lives become difficult as people find out everything on them.

Anyone want to help investigate the identities of these men?

are you good? like truly

why is it so hard for some of you to understand that people are doing things differently from you not because they are evil, but because their perception of what's good is different

you think your side is good, they are evil

they think they are good and you are evil

do you want them to doxx you too just because you're not doing as they say? let's all doxx each other lol

it's beyond me how normalized this mindset of "you're not doing what i want, let's destroy your life" is

if you are not going to talk with each other with an open mind and respect, nothing will ever change

[Roughhouse Dandy 13,619]

24 minutes ago, olive specter said:

are you good? like truly

why is it so hard for some of you to understand that people are doing things differently from you not because they are evil, but because their perception of what's good is different

you think your side is good, they are evil

they think they are good and you are evil

do you want them to doxx you too just because you're not doing as they say? let's all doxx each other lol

it's beyond me how normalized this mindset of "you're not doing what i want, let's destroy your life" is

if you are not going to talk with each other with an open mind and respect, nothing will ever change

I'm not necessarily condoning doxxing anyone, but it's more than him doing or thinking differently; dude is dehumanizing a woman because she's black in a state notorious for racial violence. It's not unwell to want consequences for that in modern America. 

[olive specter 1,166]

19 minutes ago, Roughhouse Dandy said:

I'm not necessarily condoning doxxing anyone, but it's more than him doing or thinking differently; dude is dehumanizing a woman because she's black in a state notorious for racial violence. It's not unwell to want consequences for that in modern America. 

well, there so many war threads on this site i forgot to check which one was this - my bad, i apologize :P

i was talking more about the "your zionist if you don't support us" or "your a terrorist supporter if you don't think like we do" thing that's happening

making fun of a woman just because she's black or fat is obviously bad no matter from what angle you look at it

though, i still think that no matter what somebody does their work/school situation should not be attacked (with an exception for people in power, like politicians) and advocating for doxxing is mental

[Roughhouse Dandy 13,619]

1 minute ago, olive specter said:

well, there so many war threads on this site i forgot to check which one was this - my bad, i apologize :P

i was talking more about the "your zionist if you don't support us" or "your a terrorist supporter if you don't think like we do" thing that's happening

making fun of a fat woman is obviously bad no matter from what angle you look at it

though, i still think that no matter what somebody does their work/school situation should not be attacked and advocating for doxxing is mental

Again, not saying I condone doxxing, but in cases of explicit racism nowadays I'm not gonna be bothered in the least whatever happens to them or try to defend them in any case just on principle.  But I hear you 💜

[Dennis 8,391]

3 hours ago, Ziggy said:

Idk how seeing this wouldn’t make a Zionist pause. Like I’d be like ok so why are these people jumping on my supposedly righteous movement. Why is it attractive to them? Bc this is wild.

also talking about people not from campuses swooping in, I only see that from the Zionist crowd. Like that loser with the cowboy hat and cigar at uchicago? Girl you do NOT go there; I can tell you THAT much. Also congrats, Columbia and Biden: you made this into an international spectacle lmao I’m so glad they’re being so humiliated. Frankly, Trump or not, he deserves to lose for being so resolute on the issue. Not budging at all. He deserves the utter humiliation to his otherwise very fine legacy bc this was 100% avoidable. It would have been easy to just make concessions but instead he sends paramilitary and emboldens weirdo alt right fringe making nice with the very bigots he ran against? It’s a comedy of errors only brought on by the hubris of a man who’s been so isolated by the halls of power he thought he was immune.

What the hell are you even talking about?

Where do you see the Zionists? You don't see a single Israeli flag in the crowd mocking that woman.

These were Trump supporters who wanted to counter-protest "leftists" after pro-Palestinians took down the U.S flag in other colleges. That's how they perceive it. I doubt they genuinely care about Jews or Israel.

But the way y'all blame "Zionist" Jews for everything is honestly giving validation to people who think there's an antisemitism problem in this movement.

[LadyxGaGa 3,222]

no **** that  that’s the thing when u protest and idc if u want to play devils advocate or not and ESPECIALLY if ur old enough to b attending uni  DO UR fking RESEARCH  don’t b supporting **** just because mom and dad do  this is ur time to make ur own identity  not to craft if after ur close minded view of ur extremely limited and mostly living b racist upbringing

im sorry but in this day and age im done being polite im dont being like maybe we shouldn’t stoop to their level well here’s ur hard truth  we want to to dox them to hold them accountable  those counter protestors would have done much worse if the veil of recording wasn’t there to hold them accountable for their actions

if u don’t want to stand for something u believe in don’t step in the shoes that u can even fit in 

 

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ps. no actually yet again the IDF had committed GENOCIDE ur comparing us simply doxxing them to hold them accountable to an entire organization wanting the couple annihilation of a x group of people 

 

[Roughhouse Dandy 13,619]

3 hours ago, Ziggy said:

Trump or not

Plunging the country into a dictatorship to teach one awful person a lesson? I see what you're saying, but that's a bit much maybe. 

24 minutes ago, Dennis said:

What the hell are you even talking about?

In 98% of the videos about the protests right now, it depicts pro-Palestinian vs pro-Israel, so the mistake isn't a wild one. Some grace/clarification to that user before popping off would be cute.  

24 minutes ago, Dennis said:

But the way y'all blame "Zionist" Jews for everything is honestly giving validation to people who think there's an antisemitism problem in this movement.

What other instances are you referring to? 

(Not challenging you or anything. I'd like to know because I personally can't think of another example) 

[Ladle Ghoulash 53,322]

6 hours ago, Dennis said:

What the hell are you even talking about?

Where do you see the Zionists? You don't see a single Israeli flag in the crowd mocking that woman.

These were Trump supporters who wanted to counter-protest "leftists" after pro-Palestinians took down the U.S flag in other colleges. That's how they perceive it. I doubt they genuinely care about Jews or Israel.

But the way y'all blame "Zionist" Jews for everything is honestly giving validation to people who think there's an antisemitism problem in this movement.

First of all, Ziggy didn’t even say “Zionist Jews,” you read that into the post. That being said, I will add that plenty of Zionists Jews have cheered these folks on and have made unwitting allies with these far right agitators. Nothing especially controversial about commenting on just how unholy of an alliance that is nor is there anything even remotely antisemitic about it lmao. 

[Dennis 8,391]

3 hours ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

First of all, Ziggy didn’t even say “Zionist Jews,” you read that into the post. That being said, I will add that plenty of Zionists Jews have cheered these folks on and have made unwitting allies with these far right agitators. Nothing especially controversial about commenting on just how unholy of an alliance that is nor is there anything even remotely antisemitic about it lmao. 

Many pro-Palestinians have made unwitting allies with far-right agitators like Jackson Hinkle. So what?

Does that give me a license to accuse pro-Palestinians as a whole of actions they haven't committed.

Y'all need to stick to the facts. There wasn't a single Israeli flag in the crowd. When such "unholy" alliance occurs, you can talk about.

And if we're talking about "unholy alliances", many pro-Palestinians literally support Hamas and Hezbollah, organizations that would execute or imprison people like me. Still that does not give me the right to generalize about the whole movement.

So let's not get into that topic. The thread was to call out an instance of racism, and that specific incident of racism. I don't condemn either side of the protests as long as they're peaceful.

PS: here's a pic of pro-Palestinian protestors posing with Jackson Hinkle