Trump closes the gap among college students

[Helxig 45,702]

3 hours ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

But that’s not even what these poll shows lolol. This poll says that the younger half of gen Z is trending more leftward, while the older half is more liberal/moderate. 

So when people were joking about young gen Z and gen alpha becoming the new boomers they weren't joking   

[Bronco 27,944]

1 minute ago, Helxig said:

Unrelated because obviously this is horrible new.. but how the **** is this happening?? A few years ago it was going the opposite direction and everything seemed to be finally going in the right direction.. now it's flipped. Is it the podcasters and influencers? Propaganda working? People losing trust in officials after covid? I'm so confused

I always found it hard to tell with US politics - there's a very US-centric understanding of the terms liberal/left/moderate/right etc which just doesn't match up to reality a lot of the time. 

That and a fair chunk of the population is a bit IQ challenged. Hates Obamacare but loves the Affordable Care Act etc

[Jawline4dayz 623]

5 hours ago, YourEvilTwin said:

Welp to be fair, students didn't get brutalized by cops en masse on campuses under Trump.

..Instead it was cities during the Black Lives Matter protests. Don’t act like Trump is a saint compared to Joe Biden. His presidency was terrible. 

[Dennis 8,391]

2 hours ago, Helxig said:

Unrelated because obviously this is horrible new.. but how the **** is this happening?? A few years ago it was going the opposite direction and everything seemed to be finally going in the right direction.. now it's flipped. Is it the podcasters and influencers? Propaganda working? People losing trust in officials after covid? I'm so confused

I'm not sure either.

But my theory is that it could be that society moving more to the left since 2016 had more of a reactionary effect, and newer generations of Gen Z are rejecting that.

I think it's less about policy (most people probably favor healthcare, abortion etc) and more about culture wars. It's more of a rebellion against what they perceive as the "excesses" of the left rather than opposing abortion, healthcare etc. But if they vote republicans, policy will also be affected.

[27monster27 16,109]

22 hours ago, Defmix100 said:

 

Heartbreaking. The amount of women being pickmes and minorities tokenizing themselves is awful. These people are kissing up to those who only want to use and hurt them. Sad.

[YourEvilTwin 1,398]

5 hours ago, Bronco said:

But what major campus protests happened under Trump? And what current campus protests have been squashed by Biden specifically sending in the National Guard like Nixon did at Kent State vs just having to deal with local law enforcement?

This is a bit like saying no one died of COVID under Obama 😂

You think that's what the students are thinking when their noses are getting bashed to the concrete ground, or watching it happen to their friends and professors?

[YourEvilTwin 1,398]

3 hours ago, Jawline4dayz said:

..Instead it was cities during the Black Lives Matter protests. Don’t act like Trump is a saint compared to Joe Biden. His presidency was terrible. 

Well I'm sure the BLM protester polls would look very different.

[Bronco 27,944]

24 minutes ago, YourEvilTwin said:

You think that's what the students are thinking when their noses are getting bashed to the concrete ground, or watching it happen to their friends and professors?

I mean as a student who got assaulted by police during a sit in at a campus protest in 2017, yeah I think I can make a good guess at what students think. 

[YourEvilTwin 1,398]

38 minutes ago, Bronco said:

I mean as a student who got assaulted by police during a sit in at a campus protest in 2017, yeah I think I can make a good guess at what students think. 

Oh totally, I'm sure the students are asking themselves, what would Bronco from GagaDaily in 2017 think or do right now?

[thatboyisarobot 152]

So much banality in this thread masquerading as analysis.

First of all, one poll and some cherry picked TikTok "data" hardly constitutes empirical evidence of anything.

More importantly, if youth were shifting right in the US, it could easily be argued that this is occurring because there is no "left" to offer them an alternative. It's not that young people are suddenly and mystically becoming more conservative. People are alienated right now and the world is turning to ashes before our eyes. People want an alternative and the right has a vision for an alternative world, even if that world is made up of ignorance, depravity, and avarice. There is no "left" to provide an alternative because actual left-wing politics (redistribution of wealth, debt abolition, union politics, codification of human rights) has been neglected and, one could argue, actively suppressed by a genteel centrist bourgeois liberalism that travels under the sign of the "left" in the ****ed up political spectrum of the US. This isn't new information, either, it's called the dialectic of capitalism and fascism, and it's been written about since the 1940s and 50s.

Youth are not being pushed right because of "radical leftism" because there is no organized and institutionally relevant "radical leftism" in the United States. If the argument is that people claiming to be leftists are aggravating online and that pushes people right, one could easily point out that there are just as many annoying fascists online (and largely are more successful and better publicized) that could potentially push people to the left.

[Ladle Ghoulash 55,346]

5 hours ago, Helxig said:

So when people were joking about young gen Z and gen alpha becoming the new boomers they weren't joking   

What I said would actually imply the opposite lmao 

[Bronco 27,944]

19 minutes ago, YourEvilTwin said:

Oh totally, I'm sure the students are asking themselves, what would Bronco from GagaDaily in 2017 think or do right now?

I mean I know what I'm thinking and I'd probably get WPs for it 

[Dennis 8,391]

6 hours ago, Helxig said:

So when people were joking about young gen Z and gen alpha becoming the new boomers they weren't joking   

Not "gen alpha", they're gonna live up to their name I'm afraid  

[Helxig 45,702]

17 hours ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

What I said would actually imply the opposite lmao 

Oh lmao that's what I get for sleepy posting late at night. American politics confuses me on the best of days. But I do think that younger people are becoming more conservative in a weird way. And the ipad stare is just like the lead paint stare. Plus that unabashed outspoken rudeness. It all just feels so boomer to me

Then again.. I don't actually know many kids irl so it could be online bias

20 hours ago, Dennis said:

I'm not sure either.

But my theory is that it could be that society moving more to the left since 2016 had more of a reactionary effect, and newer generations of Gen Z are rejecting that.

I think it's less about policy (most people probably favor healthcare, abortion etc) and more about culture wars. It's more of a rebellion against what they perceive as the "excesses" of the left rather than opposing abortion, healthcare etc. But if they vote republicans, policy will also be affected.

Oh that does make sense. I guess I should be specific and say that one thing I was thinking of is how soo many young guys seem to be into that 'alpha male' misogynistic sh.it. Like gym-going, women hating, looksmaxxing, mogging, women belong in the kitchen, men are the stronger sex, dominate the room, emotional manipulation, bitcoin bros,  all that bullsh.it disgusting rhetoric

[Dennis 8,391]

New poll from CNN seems to confirm this trend. Trump wins the young vote by 6 points and does better with younger voters than 34-49 age group:

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24623637-cnn-poll-april-28-2024