StrawberryBlond 14,009 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Ever since Miley won a Grammy for this song, I've been analysing it more and more and I'm honestly surprised at how she was able to get away with making this song while escaping a copyright lawsuit or having to pay Bruno Mars royalties. It's well known that the song is a response to his song, When I Was Your Man, a song that her ex husband apparently used to dedicate to her, so it seemed fitting for her to reference it in a song about their break up. But there's reference and then there's basically copying the chorus word for word with some slight changes. Apparently, Billboard claims that "the songs only feature similar lyrical elements and ideas," which is why Miley didn't have to put the writers of WIWYM as co-writers. But I'm still pretty shocked when you consider that singers have been to court and had to pay royalties for a lot less, like the many times it happened to Ed Sheeran. What do you think? Thing is, I think Flowers is just ok. I don't know why it became the big hit it did and that this is what won Miley her first Grammy, instead of something like the far superior Wrecking Ball or Midnight Sky. I feel the song is just kinda...there. But Bruno's song is much sadder with a deeper meaning and even though I'm not a fan, this is definitely my favourite song of his. it feels like Miley is just profiting off what he created and thus, I'm surprised he's not more outraged about it. But he maybe feels he'd look bitter if so and it may be better to turn the other cheek. 5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaybeKermit 3,985 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Im sure she and Bruno met up/came to an agreement and he gave her full permission to referende his song in this way. And that’s why we never heard of any drama regarding the song 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LateToCult 39,662 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 I think Bruno is chill and successful enough that he appreciated the way Miley was inspired by his song instead of feeling slighted. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
androiduser 7,438 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Flowers is referencing the lyrics of Bruno's song as a part of the storyline in the song, that's not copyright infringement. 11 1 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rat Boy 41,419 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 (edited) Isn’t it considered transformative use (legal term) therefore not illegal. I thought the song is a very witty take on WIWYM/her relationship. Edited February 10 by Rat Boy "Rat Boy's a nasty, trashy, sleazy, classless"- River 4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen 30,266 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Can love me better I can love me better, baby Can love me better I can love me better, baby To me this is the best part of Flowers and what makes it a hit. 1 4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
artdoll 45,285 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 19 minutes ago, LateToCult said: I think Bruno is chill and successful enough that he appreciated the way Miley was inspired by his song instead of feeling slighted. He would also benefit tremendously from the song's meteoric success because people would also want to check out his song I feel ｡ﾟ☁ glued up, sometimes it's too much ☁ ﾟ｡ 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controversiaga 9,251 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 I read that since flowers only paraphrases the song it’s poses no infringement Pronounced like “Balenciaga” . Emphasis on the “Ga” 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillerMonster 2,361 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 I’m sure she’s already made a deal with him. Don’t play with me, it just hurts me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versace 7,860 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 But the context should matter I feel and in Flowers it’s more so a reference to her reality than sampling for the sake of it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Lovers 6,439 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 We didn’t see copyright issues because what she did isn’t protected under copyright. For example, Weird Al when he parodies songs often uses the exact same melody and production, but because the song is transformed from it’s original version via a changing of the lyrics and themes, he doesn’t need to seek any permission to do it, he can just do it. (He chooses to get permission, but he isn’t required to.) Miley doesn’t even go that far. The melody isn’t identical, the theme is completely inverse of WIWYM, and there’s no production similarity. Add onto that her open acknowledgement of the source and there’s nothing there under copyright law that would require any difference in crediting. Had Bruno wanted to then sure he could’ve tried (like that group did with Taylor to SiO or that artists did to Ed) or Miley could’ve offered (like Olivia did for Deja Vu) but its safe to assume he blessed it privately. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylucifer 5,061 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 oh I thought that it fully was sampled or the song writers were already credited, gagged that they weren't The Tortured Poets Department is out NOW 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monstermilo 3,692 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 girl most of todays music is recycled 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin 24,441 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 5 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said: It's well known that the song is a response to his song, When I Was Your Man, a song that her ex husband apparently used to dedicate to her That was completely made up by Miley stan accounts to promote the song. 2 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rat Boy 41,419 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 15 minutes ago, Admin said: That was completely made up by Miley stan accounts to promote the song. Lmao I believed this "Rat Boy's a nasty, trashy, sleazy, classless"- River 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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