RichAssPiss 4,697 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 hour ago, elijahfan said: They're not going to change historical facts because people today are too stupid to inform themselves Gaga can look veeeery Mediterranean when she's tan, like in my profile picture for instance when she was living her Botticelli fantasy. In comparison, I'm white as a sheet. It's not about changing historical facts. It's about a fascination with whiteness. Hollywood is not out here making movies about Egyptian characters. Choosing who to focus on is part of racial bias. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijahfan 24,869 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 minutes ago, RichAssPiss said: It's not about changing historical facts. It's about a fascination with whiteness. Hollywood is not out here making movies about Egyptian characters. Choosing who to focus on is part of racial bias. So should they not do a movie about Cleopatra because she wasn't Egyptian-looking enough? Even though she's one of the most important rulers of Ancient history? You see, that's an example where political correctness and woke culture is really falling short imo. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 16,202 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 hours ago, Controversiaga said: No. I don’t think cleopatra was of Italian decent so there will be a political uproar if Gaga is cast. In all fairness, I think Gaga is more than a decent Italian. She’s a great Italian! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichAssPiss 4,697 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 22 minutes ago, elijahfan said: So should they not do a movie about Cleopatra because she wasn't Egyptian-looking enough? Even though she's one of the most important rulers of Ancient history? You see, that's an example where political correctness and woke culture is really falling short imo. Anti-racism isn't falling short by pointing out that Hollywood's decision to make ANOTHER movie about a white woman in Egypt is indicative of its overemphasis on white stories with glamorous Eurocentric looking movie stars. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JazzGa 14,458 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 I would love to see Gaga portray a historical figure!! I think there is a lot of pressure for a Hollywood movie to cast a brown skinned actress as Cleopatra. Even though people always bring up the historical "she was actually Greek" argument, there is probably still a lot of pressure to make an Egyptian queen represent an American idea of diversity. BUT personally I would LOVE to see Gaga play an ancient Greek historical or mythological figure whether or not it's Cleopatra. There are so many other great characters to choose from. And Gaga's looks and profile are great for playing a Grecian beauty. What if she played Helen of Troy? I've taken a few dips in the lady pond Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagzus 14,463 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 In 2024 i don’t think it would be wise for Gaga to take the role of a “black” character (whether you believe she is or not most people believe she is) so I hope she has nothing to do with this Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debithius 5,483 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 11 hours ago, RichAssPiss said: It's a trap. No one will ever be happy with a white cast ancient Egypt movie. It does not matter what 23andMe you think you have to "prove" she was white. A Hollywood movie set in Egypt about a white woman will always have a stink to it. I think Gaga knows this. Angelina, however, did black face to try and win an Oscar. So evidently, she does not. Have at it Angie! Cleopatra was from Europe so yes this fits Gaga lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Vela 2,494 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 I can see the similarities... a big similarity actually Spoiler Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCgaga 4,278 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 10 hours ago, Dennis said: To be honest, Cleopatra should be played by an Arab actress, not White, not Black. Why? Cleopatra was not Arab. Why must she be played by an Arab person? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCgaga 4,278 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 31 minutes ago, gagzus said: In 2024 i don’t think it would be wise for Gaga to take the role of a “black” character (whether you believe she is or not most people believe she is) so I hope she has nothing to do with this Most people don’t believe Cleopatra was black. Most think she was Egyptian. Most Egyptians are Arab and not black. So they might assume Cleopatra would be Arab- but she was Mediterranean. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxine Puth 9,052 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 It must be so wild for Gaga to have grown up being told she was too ethnic and too Mediterranean to play lead roles to now where she’s just not ethnic enough (to play a Mediterranean woman). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babel 41,210 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 But what if the fact that Cleopatra didn't look like a commoner egyptian at the time actually plays a part in the movie. Maybe then a remake of this story could actually make sense by having more relevance today. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTheCloset 17,754 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Didnt Gal Gadot already get this role? Where's the spunk, Adam? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxine Puth 9,052 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Just now, Babel said: But what if the fact that Cleopatra didn't look like a commoner egyptian at the time actually plays a part in the movie. Maybe then a remake of this story could actually make sense by having more relevance today. Like the struggle of a) being a female leader in ancient times and b) having to lead people who are completely different from you, trying to win over their support and learn their customs / culture? If I remember correctly, Cleopatra was the first in her family to actually embrace the Egyptian culture, so yeah it definitely could become a good story if used. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivannn 1,079 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 11 hours ago, RichAssPiss said: Yes. As I said, it doesn't matter. A movie about a white woman in Egypt is never going to not be controversial. Maybe in America, but egyptians Are very Well Aware WHO Cleopatra was and know their history. That is why Netflix ( Jada P Smith ) Cleopatra documentary caused an outrage. I do not see how making this film while sticking to more obvioua historical facts could be controversial. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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