Canada Grows 430K In 3 Months - Population Boom Accelerates Further

[Economy 52,837]

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/231219/dq231219c-eng.htm

 

Stats Canadas estimates the Countries population from July 1st to Octobet 1st grew 430,635 (96% due to agressive immigration)

 

Last year Canadas population grew over 1.1M in a 1 year period, a growth rate of 2.7%, the highest in the developed world and a growth rate closer to the norm of Sub-saharan Africa

 

The growth rate last quarter of 1.1% in a 3 month period is an annualized growth rate of 4.5%

 

The only time in history Canada hit this growth rate was briefly in 1957 when the baby boomer birth rates were hitting their peaks

[Economy 52,837]

For context USA with 339M grew 1.6M people last year (almost 9X Canadas population)

 

Canada grew 1.1M with only 39M people last year (it is currently about 40.5M)

[Creyk 18,619]

It's because of Canada's ongoing agressive immigration policy. They let anyone in. I don't know why you left this key information out of the OP, it's in the article:

International migration continues to be the main source of Canada's population growth

In the third quarter of 2023, the vast majority (96.0%) of the population growth was due to international migration.

[Karl 3,575]

For some reason I always thought Canada's population would be way bigger than the UK, I think we have 70 mil and our island is tiny so I'm sure y'all have the space for 40mil 

[Economy 52,837]

3 minutes ago, Creyk said:

It's because of Canada's ongoing agressive immigration policy. They let anyone in. I don't know why you left this key information out of the OP, it's in the article:

International migration continues to be the main source of Canada's population growth

In the third quarter of 2023, the vast majority (96.0%) of the population growth was due to international migration.

I mean i think everyone knows by now its due to agressive immigration policy but ill add that in anyway

[Economy 52,837]

1 minute ago, Karl said:

For some reason I always thought Canada's population would be way bigger than the UK, I think we have 70 mil and our island is tiny so I'm sure y'all have the space for 40mil 

We have space but we need to get our dysfunctional industry and permit process in order to actually build faster

 

Also about the UK no, The UK is still one of the most populated developed Countries

 

After USA, Japan and Germany im pretty sure UK is the 4th most populated developed Nation (someome correct me if im wrong)

 

Canada neverthless despite the perception of Americans is not that low in ranking of Countries by population especially in developed world. Theres still way more Countries with less than more. The US is just huge

 

This guy at work (hes an American i do zoom meetings with) that thinks Canada is an empty snow land thought Australia had more population than Canada and im like no, we had almpst 10M on Australia

[Natalia Kills 412]

There’s definitely a growing amount of resistance to immigration but I think Canadians are reluctant to have the conversation about it because it often becomes a topic on racism and xenophobia. I feel like the messaging should be to optimize immigration rather than slash/raise it.

Unfortunately, for all its perks and welcoming attitude, I feel like Canadians are unable to have difficult conversations and tend to say “at least we’re not X country, we should be grateful”. That’s a realistic attitude in theory but it doesn’t solve problems.

I’ve seen some pretty sad stories of locals in rural/small town communities being priced out of their areas due to high influx of international students increasing rents and doing casual jobs. Similarly, these students become scapegoats and fringe media can scoop the disillusioned locals.

There’s a cultural layer too. We’re seeing significantly more Indian immigrants than any other nationality and naturally more homogenous Indian communities.
Add in the fact that culturally/economically they’re quite distinct from the typical white Canadian of European descent, it’s going to create some friction.

I’ve heard a fair bit of xenophobia to Indians outside of Toronto (esp regarding Brampton), which makes it harder for people to make genuine arguments about optimizing and being more selective with immigration. 

[PunkTheFunk 125,703]

Cool, now where are they all going to live?  We don't even have enough houses for the people already here.

[Economy 52,837]

35 minutes ago, Natalia Kills said:

There’s definitely a growing amount of resistance to immigration but I think Canadians are reluctant to have the conversation about it because it often becomes a topic on racism and xenophobia. I feel like the messaging should be to optimize immigration rather than slash/raise it.

Unfortunately, for all its perks and welcoming attitude, I feel like Canadians are unable to have difficult conversations and tend to say “at least we’re not X country, we should be grateful”. That’s a realistic attitude in theory but it doesn’t solve problems.

I’ve seen some pretty sad stories of locals in rural/small town communities being priced out of their areas due to high influx of international students increasing rents and doing casual jobs. Similarly, these students become scapegoats and fringe media can scoop the disillusioned locals.

There’s a cultural layer too. We’re seeing significantly more Indian immigrants than any other nationality and naturally more homogenous Indian communities.
Add in the fact that culturally/economically they’re quite distinct from the typical white Canadian of European descent, it’s going to create some friction.

I’ve heard a fair bit of xenophobia to Indians outside of Toronto (esp regarding Brampton), which makes it harder for people to make genuine arguments about optimizing and being more selective with immigration. 

I live in Brampton . Yeah our city is nearly 700,000 now and were easily at least 70% Indian no joke (some parts in the north and west end its closer to 90% id say). Whites and blacks are a minority in this city.

 

I am not saying that is a negative thing tho. But it just illustrates the sheer amount of immigration. The numbers have been so high that in the last 10 years demographics have completely shifted (although Brampton 10 years ago was already pretty heavily Indian dominated then too)

 

i remember having a discussion about this with a user that had a bunny avi (cant remember his user name). He genuinely did not believe me that a Canadian city could be predominantly non-white. Its ironic because the discussion was about racism and ignorance and he was being ignorant about basic Canadian statistics and facts as he had this discussion

 

When I went to the US for work training i learned asking ppl whats their background when u first meet them is rude and insensitive. Here (at least in Toronto area) its the most normal thing ever cuz the vast majority of ppl were either not born in Canada or if they were good chance their parents werent. And i guess since race discussions is less polarized here ppl dont get as defensive as in the US

 

Ppl saying their background is just "Canadian" is actually pretty rare cuz 3 generations or more in Canada is rare here

 

 

[Creyk 18,619]

44 minutes ago, Natalia Kills said:

There’s definitely a growing amount of resistance to immigration but I think Canadians are reluctant to have the conversation about it because it often becomes a topic on racism and xenophobia. I feel like the messaging should be to optimize immigration rather than slash/raise it.

Unfortunately, for all its perks and welcoming attitude, I feel like Canadians are unable to have difficult conversations and tend to say “at least we’re not X country, we should be grateful”. That’s a realistic attitude in theory but it doesn’t solve problems.

I’ve seen some pretty sad stories of locals in rural/small town communities being priced out of their areas due to high influx of international students increasing rents and doing casual jobs. Similarly, these students become scapegoats and fringe media can scoop the disillusioned locals.

There’s a cultural layer too. We’re seeing significantly more Indian immigrants than any other nationality and naturally more homogenous Indian communities.
Add in the fact that culturally/economically they’re quite distinct from the typical white Canadian of European descent, it’s going to create some friction.

I’ve heard a fair bit of xenophobia to Indians outside of Toronto (esp regarding Brampton), which makes it harder for people to make genuine arguments about optimizing and being more selective with immigration. 

I wonder if there will ever be a solution to integrating immigrants into the society of the country they emigrate to, as opposed to them being separeted and creating their own subculture which drives conflict and division. All over the world and different cultures this is an issue that comes up time and time again and there isn't really much anyone does about it.

[Economy 52,837]

1 hour ago, Creyk said:

I wonder if there will ever be a solution to integrating immigrants into the society of the country they emigrate to, as opposed to them being separeted and creating their own subculture which drives conflict and division. All over the world and different cultures this is an issue that comes up time and time again and there isn't really much anyone does about it.

I think starting somewhere new from scratch is always tough and if others of ur culture and language and culture are nearby its natural to be drawn to them and kinda cluster like that.

 

But Canadas economic conditions and housing crisis funny enough despite maybe being exasterbated by high immigration, it ends up being most hitting on immigrants themselves

 

If u do not have generational wealth or parents with a home you can live until your 30 to save on rent u feel it most. So new commers face the most hostile environment of all

 

A Indian newcommer to Canada i work with and drive home cuz hes on the way has 4 room mates (5 counting himself) in order to survive high rents

[FfFfFfFF 58,061]

4 hours ago, Economy said:

Its ironic because the discussion was about racism and ignorance and he was being ignorant about basic Canadian statistics and facts as he had this discussion

I have no insights or opinions regarding Canada's immigration , but this is 100% true in my experience here. Some of the most opiniated people have no idea what they are talking about, and don't know even the basic facts one would need to know to get a PRELIMINARY idea of what they think they know. This is actually why I left this site for most of 2023. 

[Delulu Rogers 7,650]

The liberals have to be booted out and immigration levels need to be cut by 75% imo 

[Economy 52,837]

2 hours ago, Delulu Rogers said:

The liberals have to be booted out and immigration levels need to be cut by 75% imo 

I agree with a temporary cut on immigration to let housing and infrastructure catch up. But id also say its dangerous to leave it at that and blame new comers as the exclusive problem and not fix other contributing factors

 

This is not the first time in history weve had explosive population growth. What has made it so hard for housing to follow demand is that Canada has become so slow with construction and overly beaurocratic with red tape

 

Todays Nimby culture doesnt help either.

 

We rank one of the very worst in the OECD in getting projects done in an efficient amount of time. A bad combination when ur population is the fastest growing in developed world

[Delulu Rogers 7,650]

26 minutes ago, Economy said:

I agree with a temporary cut on immigration to let housing and infrastructure catch up. But id also say its dangerous to leave it at that and blame new comers as the exclusive problem and not fix other contributing factors

 

This is not the first time in history weve had explosive population growth. What has made it so hard for housing to follow demand is that Canada has become so slow with construction and overly beaurocratic with red tape

 

Todays Nimby culture doesnt help either.

 

We rank one of the very worst in the OECD in getting projects done in an efficient amount of time. A bad combination when ur population is the fastest growing in developed world

I agree