TIME Person Of The Year 2023 Has Been Announced

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14 hours ago, Dennis said:

"Russia invaded Ukraine", hundreds of thousands of people perished in this war. I don't get some people's obsession with minimizing it just because they're a pro-western country. If you're calling the death of 10K+ Gazans "genocide", then the Ukraine situation is definitely nothing short of that.

Plus the situation in Ukraine was a LOT less divisive than what's happening between Israel and Palestine today. Ukraine did not break the ceasefire, kidnap Russian children or go into Russia to murder civilians. It was more of a shock that they were attacked for pretty much no reason. Whereas the situation with Israel is more divisive, considering Hamas broke the ceasefire (does not justify Israel's excessive response but it's ridiculous to compare it to Ukraine).

So regardless of how stubborn people are about this, the situation in Israel and Palestine is very complex and most people sympathize with both sides, hence why it's perceived as controversial to try to pick a side. I understand why TIME did not do it. Whereas for Ukraine, 90%+ of the public pretty much sided with Ukraine.

If they chose Gazans, people would be like "what about the hostages, children and women who were kidnapped, raped etc..". If they chose the victims of October 7th, people would be like "what about Gazans".
 

Thank you!

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This could have been Gaga if she didn’t water down ARTPOP 

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I'm ambivalent on Taylor, but I understand why she received this cover/award. She's the biggest artist around (in the United States) since Michael Jackson or the Beatles.

I did read the interview though, and kind of....cringed a bit? Taylor is wildly successful, and re-hashing the Kanye mess seemed like a bad choice when the public has long moved on.

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MOTHER, I mean, talk about world domination and uniting the masses for a monoculture one last time

most interesting parts of the article from my POV:

Spoiler

But some months later, at Swift’s 18th birthday party, she saw Chesney’s promoter. He handed her a card from Chesney that read, as Swift recalls, “I’m sorry that you couldn’t come on the tour, so I wanted to make it up to you.” With the note was a check. “It was for more money than I’d ever seen in my life,” Swift says. “I was able to pay my band bonuses. I was able to pay for my tour buses. I was able to fuel my dreams.”

This I found to be very indicative of Taylor's own work, how she treats her people and team. This was from basically day 1. 

“Ultimately, we can convolute it all we want, or try to overcomplicate it, but there’s only one question.” Here, she adopts a booming voice. “Are you not entertained?”

Truely we are entertained and that is what she fundamentally understands, we desire entertainment. 

This time, she began training six months ahead of the first show. “Every day I would run on the treadmill, singing the entire set list out loud,” she said. “Fast for fast songs, and a jog or a fast walk for slow songs.” 

GAG, the training that went into the eras tour is very interesting to me. I would also love to know what that og setlist sounded like as I can assume some things got moved around 

“My dad, my mom, and my brother come up with some of the best ideas in my career,” Swift says. “I always joke that we’re a small family business.”

It has become abundantly clear that Taylor's family is far more involved in her career than I ever appreciated and it is crazy that they still are. Oh to be a fly on the wall. 

She had also satisfied her record deal with Borchetta, and knew she wanted out. “The molecular chemistry of that old label was that every creative choice I wanted to make was second-guessed,” she says. “I was really overthinking these albums.”

Big Machine just seems like hell (which is insane cause she really portrayed them to be the best) and she tried to leave so nicely but that man is a MENACE as we continue to learn 

By the time I went to that first game, we were a couple. I think some people think that they saw our first date at that game? We would never be psychotic enough to hard launch a first date.

1. WHAT 2. we do think you, TAYLOR, are 'psychotic enough' to do such a thing

Swift returns the favor by attending Beyoncé’s in London. “She’s the most precious gem of a person—warm and open and funny,” Swift says. “And she’s such a great disrupter of music-industry norms. She taught every artist how to flip the table and challenge archaic business practices.” 

Again, I would like to be a fly on the wall when Taylor and Beyonce converse

Life is short. Have adventures. Me locking myself away in my house for a lot of years—I’ll never get that time back. I’m more trusting now than I was six years ago.

I know swifties are going to drag Joe for this however, Taylor did need that time away. Joe can be cooked tho for the last 1-2 years

“It’s a goth-punk moment of female rage at being gaslit by an entire social structure,”

This is very interesting that this is her view of rep as it lines up with her view of feminism and also scares me for rep vault because I simply cannot do the man (reputation's version). 

but the photoshoot 50% a slay and 50% disaster 

overall, such an interesting interview, I would like to have seen perhaps more of a reflection of her influence within the wider world and even her position as the person of year however I know enough that she was literally never going to touch that with a 10 foot pole. Overall thank you Taylor and thank you Time Mag

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19 hours ago, Tinnitus15 said:

Lmfao we’ve already started (that’s her portrait for TIME) 

 

Lol what actually is this? It's hideous

 

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and the crowd goes mild 

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Stay on topic

 

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Considering what's happening in the world in 2023, this smells so U.S. centric escapism, also essentially valuing commercial $ucce$$ over everything else.

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4 hours ago, LilyLark said:

I did read the interview though, and kind of....cringed a bit? Taylor is wildly successful, and re-hashing the Kanye mess seemed like a bad choice when the public has long moved on.

I think she did it for a reason. She's about to release Reputation (Taylor's Version).

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6 hours ago, LilyLark said:

I'm ambivalent on Taylor, but I understand why she received this cover/award. She's the biggest artist around (in the United States) since Michael Jackson or the Beatles.

I did read the interview though, and kind of....cringed a bit? Taylor is wildly successful, and re-hashing the Kanye mess seemed like a bad choice when the public has long moved on.

She is in a perpetual state of victimhood

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On 12/6/2023 at 7:52 AM, RAMROD said:

As a pop star, she sits in rarefied company, alongside Elvis Presley, Michael Jackson, and Madonna; as a songwriter, she has been compared to Bob Dylan, Paul McCartney, and Joni Mitchell.

To compare this woman to these people is offensively ridiculous lmao

Michael Jackson, who broke racial barriers, redefined what it meant to be a pop star, invented the modern music video, and whose influence is present in nearly every living mainstream artist's work. The man was a living, breathing cultural reset.

Madonna, who broke gender barriers, blazed a trail for every female artist after her to follow, normalized sex positive ideas and music, and continues to be an anti-hero for the rebellious crowd of feminists.

Hell, even if Elvis' biggest achievement was ripping off black artists before him even he contributed a hell of a lot more to the culture and arts than Taylor by being the quintessential rockstar.

Taylor's only achievement, and I do mean ONLY achievement, is making money. She sells. She has dollar signs next to her name.

And I still don't understand the praise she gets for songwriting when I have yet to see a lyric that didn't sound like a cringe middle schooler wrote it. Even when she gets artsy with metaphors it comes off as try-hard and shallow. She does nothing better than any other artist.

You want self affirmation? Gaga's songs blow her out of the water.

You want a love song? There's literally millions that are better written than any product of Taylor's pen.

Heartbreak or breakup songs? See love songs.

You want vocals? I'll give you a hundred singers off the top of my head that could blow her away.

I genuinely do not understand how she is so popular. She deadass is to music what the Kardashians were/are to TV and it irritates the hell out of me

There are thousands of artists out there that make better music, are better entertainers, and they/their fans don't consider having a 9-figure net worth as "artistic success".

On 12/6/2023 at 7:52 AM, RAMROD said:

Beatlemania and Thriller have nothing on these shows,” says Swift’s friend and collaborator Phoebe Bridgers

Saying this ought to be a federal crime

On 12/6/2023 at 7:52 AM, RAMROD said:

If you’re skeptical, consider it: How many conversations did you have about Taylor Swift this year?

We talked an awful lot about dictators, covid, genocide, late stage capitalism, and the end of the world too

Thankfully, the only time I ever saw or heard about Taylor was on this site. And that one Dancing With the Stars episode or whatever it was I heard coming out of the other bedroom.

/General irritation. I'm actually mad that she gets praised for being the most successful and generic panderer in the music industry

Wait...I just realized what she did  she brought the country music formula of writing contrived and pandering garbage to the pop music world. How have I never realized that?!

She's not the new Madonna or MJ, she's the pop version of George Strait or Kenny Chesney

Ok, now /excessive rant

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Mediocrity rewarded.