1989 (Taylor's Version) debuts at #1 on Billboard 200 with 1,653,000 units

[EGOT2027 10,807]

taylor having the biggest debut of her career from a re-release with 5 new songs is soooooo iconic. 1989 really is that b*tch

 

 

[Chlorine 47,975]

3 minutes ago, EGOT2027 said:

taylor having the biggest debut of her career from a re-release with 5 new songs is soooooo iconic. 1989 really is that b*tch

 

 

All this proves is that her best days are behind her and she would not be the commercial juggernaut she is without the gimmick of the re-releases. 

Taylor has sales and that's it. When artists like Ed Sheeran, Morgan Wallen or even BTS do crazy numbers we think it's weird and we don't get the appeal. This is the same thing, and that's what you guys don't understand. You expect us to conflate sales with quality/impact/legendary status but the math ain't mathing because nothing about Taylor justifies that. She is succeeding because her music is a bland commodity easily digested by and appealing to the lowest common denominator, because she has an artificially high prolificacy thanks to the re-releases and because she has succeeded in creating a highly engaged teenage girl incel fanbase. Not because she is "the best," and not because she is extraordinary in any way. She is never touching the Beatles, MJ, Madonna or any real legend, and no one will ever think of her that way.

But enjoy her numbers. And preferably, enjoy them in a Taylor Charts thread so you all can circle j*rk in there without the rest of us needing to see it. 

[nATAH 43,271]

1 minute ago, Wallach said:

All this proves is that her best days are behind her and she would not be the commercial juggernaut she is without the gimmick of the re-releases. 

Taylor has sales and that's it. When artists like Ed Sheeran, Morgan Wallen or even BTS do crazy numbers we think it's weird and we don't get the appeal. This is the same thing, and that's what you guys don't understand. You expect us to conflate sales with quality/impact/legendary status but the math ain't mathing because nothing about Taylor justifies that. She is succeeding because her music is a bland commodity easily digested by and appealing to the lowest common denominator, because she has an artificially high prolificacy thanks to the re-releases and because she has succeeded in creating a highly engaged teenage girl incel fanbase. Not because she is "the best," and not because she is extraordinary in any way. She is never touching the Beatles, MJ, Madonna or any real legend, and no one will ever think of her that way.

But enjoy her numbers. And preferably, enjoy them in a Taylor Charts thread so you all can circle j*rk in there without the rest of us needing to see it. 

you came SWINGING

and i agree with every word

[Bronco 6,795]

2 minutes ago, Wallach said:

creating a highly engaged teenage girl incel fanbase.

New GGD challenge: Let's go a full Taylor Swift thread without blatant misogyny. 

[Anderson123 36,059]

Hold on. I thought she broke Adele's record and I remember 25 opened with like 3 million copies breaking Britney's Oops record but had to re-read that tweet again. So 1989 TV is the biggest SINCE Adele's 25, that makes more sense lol.

Honestly this is insane, I expected this to be her biggest re-release project but not to the point of selling over a million copies. Good for her, she's on top of the world. 

[Divine 1,580]

22 minutes ago, Wallach said:

All this proves is that her best days are behind her and she would not be the commercial juggernaut she is without the gimmick of the re-releases. 

Taylor has sales and that's it. When artists like Ed Sheeran, Morgan Wallen or even BTS do crazy numbers we think it's weird and we don't get the appeal. This is the same thing, and that's what you guys don't understand. You expect us to conflate sales with quality/impact/legendary status but the math ain't mathing because nothing about Taylor justifies that. She is succeeding because her music is a bland commodity easily digested by and appealing to the lowest common denominator a, because she has an artificially high prolificacy thanks to the re-releases and because she has succeeded in creating a highly engaged teenage girl incel fanbase. Not because she is "the best," and not because she is extraordinary in any way. She is never touching the Beatles, MJ, Madonna or any real legend, and no one will ever think of her that way.

But enjoy her numbers. And preferably, enjoy them in a Taylor Charts thread so you all can circle j*rk in there without the rest of us needing to see it. 

As part of the lowest common denominator you said , I see her as a great musician, entertainer, and a business woman (There can be 100 people in a room and 99 of them don't believe in you but all it takes is one and it just changes your whole life ). Calm down, girl! She's still her own force, we can't deny that even if you see her as something less based on your music preferences. Your preference does not equate to other people's choice, and it does not make you better. Your preference does not equate to proven statistics of musician's extraordinariness. And babe, you don't need to include "us" too, as you can state your own sentiment based on you solely. Can you? But loving the teamwork! 

I hope that feeds your Superiority Complex. Love you! 

[Ronnie 5,457]

I love how aggravated some people get when it comes to Taylor’s success. It’s almost like because she’s a basic relatable white girl that doesn’t dress over-the-top, throw her ass and tits around or release controversial content, that she’s undeserving.

[Guest]

8 minutes ago, Divine said:

All this proves is that her best days are behind her and she would not be the commercial juggernaut she is without the gimmick of the re-releases. 

But she did 1.578 million debut with Midnights, which was a standard album release - and this is the only release she's had to top that. So what is the truth?

[gabeoz 7,915]

1 hour ago, Wallach said:

All this proves is that her best days are behind her and she would not be the commercial juggernaut she is without the gimmick of the re-releases. 

Taylor has sales and that's it. When artists like Ed Sheeran, Morgan Wallen or even BTS do crazy numbers we think it's weird and we don't get the appeal. This is the same thing, and that's what you guys don't understand. You expect us to conflate sales with quality/impact/legendary status but the math ain't mathing because nothing about Taylor justifies that. She is succeeding because her music is a bland commodity easily digested by and appealing to the lowest common denominator, because she has an artificially high prolificacy thanks to the re-releases and because she has succeeded in creating a highly engaged teenage girl incel fanbase. Not because she is "the best," and not because she is extraordinary in any way. She is never touching the Beatles, MJ, Madonna or any real legend, and no one will ever think of her that way.

But enjoy her numbers. And preferably, enjoy them in a Taylor Charts thread so you all can circle j*rk in there without the rest of us needing to see it. 

this level of bitterness isn’t cute. it’s weird.

[LadyxGaGa 1,276]

WHY DO U HATE SEEING SOMEONE SUCCEED

like does EVERYONE here have a record contract, that somehow taylor just destroyed their sales??


WHY DOES IT IT MATTER IF SHE BEAT A RECORD

[LadyxGaGa 1,276]

genuinely and honestly 

this isn't even just cuz ima fan but this also happened when billie won all her grammys 

why do yall hate seeing others win, like yall genuinely act like u have some weird bond with adele or any other girlie who isnt taylor that like u physcially get ill hearing taylor win its so weird 


its 1 year of her being a big thing in COUNTLESS years to come, she is going to fade why do u hate that she gets to have her moment 

[LadyxGaGa 1,276]

like christmas is coming are we finally going to hop on the hate mariah train even tho the woman herself is one of the last living legends left 


who is the next person we are going to hate???

stop the drama. start the music

[Plastic Flower 3,923]

Not surprised by this thread.  

So glad to see women succeed 

[MessyTop 14,316]

2 hours ago, Wallach said:

All this proves is that her best days are behind her and she would not be the commercial juggernaut she is without the gimmick of the re-releases. 

Taylor has sales and that's it. When artists like Ed Sheeran, Morgan Wallen or even BTS do crazy numbers we think it's weird and we don't get the appeal. This is the same thing, and that's what you guys don't understand. You expect us to conflate sales with quality/impact/legendary status but the math ain't mathing because nothing about Taylor justifies that. She is succeeding because her music is a bland commodity easily digested by and appealing to the lowest common denominator, because she has an artificially high prolificacy thanks to the re-releases and because she has succeeded in creating a highly engaged teenage girl incel fanbase. Not because she is "the best," and not because she is extraordinary in any way. She is never touching the Beatles, MJ, Madonna or any real legend, and no one will ever think of her that way.

But enjoy her numbers. And preferably, enjoy them in a Taylor Charts thread so you all can circle j*rk in there without the rest of us needing to see it. 

You need to go outside and touch some grass. Imagine being that bothered. Why waste energy in a thread? You clearly don’t care for Taylor and that’s ok. Save that energy, focus on something else. 

[Batwings 12,847]

The amount of smugness in this thread is absurd. Taylor stans Gaga, and I thought we were all about queens supporting queens? The Taylor hate is so blasé at this point.