Omar Vela 2,745 Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 10 hours ago, RAMROD said: I won't ever say that after being under his administration for 4 long years. Not even close. Not even a lesser evil. Non. Meh, I'm not saying he was good either... but people made him a super villain thanks to the media. Obama was worst with mexican immigrants and you guys worship him as a saint. Trump fans are more evil and close minded than Trump himself. I think the bigger problem with him was that he didn't controlled his batsh*t crazy fanbase... (Also, supporting mexican president was a mistake too, AMLO is one of the worst things that has happened to my country) Also, you chose an ederly president who can't even go to events without having basic instructions like "YOU enter the room, YOU take YOUR sit, YOU talk about..." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Vela 2,745 Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 40 minutes ago, deactivated001 said: Fascism is an intrinsically a far-right ideology. it's funny but far-left has been historically the ideology with most fascist governments: Venezuela, Cuba, Bolivia, Rusia... ---------------------------- Sorry you can delete this message, I spammed accidentally Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 55,350 Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, Omar Vela said: it's funny but far-left has been historically the ideology with most fascist governments: Venezuela, Cuba, Bolivia, Rusia... ---------------------------- Sorry you can delete this message, I spammed accidentally Imo, any gov’t that is fascist or totalitarian in nature is intrinsically far right (at least on the traditional spectrum of anarchism-fascism). Ofc I know that there are other factors, but I personally don’t see “communist” dictators as being any different in the way that they wield power than any other kind of dictator, regardless of what social/economic ideology they wrap their lust for power in. The Oxford reference explicitly defines it as a right wing ideology, for reference: https://www.oxfordreference.com/display/10.1093/oi/authority.20110803095811414 “An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.” We have forgotten our public MANNERS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
faysalaaa 5,381 Posted September 28, 2023 Author Share Posted September 28, 2023 38 minutes ago, deactivated001 said: Imo, any gov’t that is fascist or totalitarian in nature is intrinsically far right (at least on the traditional spectrum of anarchism-fascism). Ofc I know that there are other factors, but I personally don’t see “communist” dictators as being any different in the way that they wield power than any other kind of dictator, regardless of what social/economic ideology they wrap their lust for power in. The Oxford reference explicitly defines it as a right wing ideology, for reference: https://www.oxfordreference.com/display/10.1093/oi/authority.20110803095811414 “An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.” I just searched and you are right, they do define fascism as right wing! But it doesnt make sense to me because wanting full power and control is part of human nature, its not a left or right thing. Tankies today openly support fascism and think Russia and China are good, yet they are the most leftist group ever. Even someone like Hasanabi openly supports China and their fascist government! Here is a video of a leftist openly defending fascism and genocide, he made Charli Kirk look like the leftist! : Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 55,350 Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 1 hour ago, faysalaaa1 said: I just searched and you are right, they do define fascism as right wing! But it doesnt make sense to me because wanting full power and control is part of human nature, its not a left or right thing. Tankies today openly support fascism and think Russia and China are good, yet they are the most leftist group ever. Even someone like Hasanabi openly supports China and their fascist government! Here is a video of a leftist openly defending fascism and genocide, he made Charli Kirk look like the leftist! : I definitely understand the argument surrounding the social/economic ideologies of fascist regimes, but I think the traditional political spectrum from anarchism-fascism is meant to encompass the spectrum from personal agency to total governmental control. I definitely appreciate the aesthetic differences of different kinds of fascism, tho. We have forgotten our public MANNERS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monstermilo 5,473 Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 23 hours ago, Meat said: The fact that Trump is one of the more liberal republicans is so funny honestly. People like DeSantis etc make him look like a saint. girl did u not see him literally install judges that GOT RID OF ROE V WADE ???? hes made it so that states can literally impose laws that can lead to women being sent to prison for trying to get abortions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monstermilo 5,473 Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 12 hours ago, Omar Vela said: it's funny but far-left has been historically the ideology with most fascist governments: Venezuela, Cuba, Bolivia, Rusia... ---------------------------- Sorry you can delete this message, I spammed accidentally russia is far left? where you can be killed for being gay? girl you need to get your facts straight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LateToCult 42,165 Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 Trump is so funny. Like, I don’t want him anywhere near the Oval Office but I can’t lie, he makes me giggle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat 18,962 Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 4 hours ago, Monstermilo said: girl did u not see him literally install judges that GOT RID OF ROE V WADE ???? hes made it so that states can literally impose laws that can lead to women being sent to prison for trying to get abortions. I’m not a trump supporter lol did you even see what DeSantis wants to do? That’s way worse than Trump. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
En_Sabah_Nur 9,366 Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 17 hours ago, Omar Vela said: Also, you chose an ederly president Trump is also elderly as well… Egypt. W Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 55,350 Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 6 hours ago, En_Sabah_Nur said: Trump is also elderly as well… Elderly and criminally insane. I’d personally take a Weekend at Bernie’s style presidency over a Weekend in Weimar any day of the week. We have forgotten our public MANNERS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
faysalaaa 5,381 Posted September 30, 2023 Author Share Posted September 30, 2023 21 hours ago, Monstermilo said: russia is far left? where you can be killed for being gay? girl you need to get your facts straight Russia is not far left or even left, but the soviet union is far left, and they killed gay people. Thats why you see far left tankies marxists today being homophobic, yet they are the most extreme leftists. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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