Grimes wants to see celebration of the good parts of masculinity and be less famous

[Teletubby 143,810]

• I really think one of our biggest issues right now is the polarization. I refuse to be left or right. I'm scared about what we're doing to young men and the discourse around men right now.

There are a lot of issues with like male toxicity, but we're seriously just telling men they're evil for things that they can't—like testosterone is like a crazy war drug. Like why can't there be a political platform that, like, makes space and room for—and honors—masculinity, like traditional masculinity, and encourages it to be better in a constructive way, rather than, like, tearing it apart, that’s still is like into women's rights and access to abortion and trans rights. It’s like, why are these things dichotomous? Like—like why are they fighting each other?

What I would love to see is sort of celebration of the good parts of masculinity. Like, how do you create a discourse that, encourages men to push themselves and be chivalrous? And like—like how do you romanticize a type of masculinity that is really respectful of women and supportive of discipline and like, I don't know, like all the **** everyone makes fun of. I think that's what's happening too much, is like in our attempts to get rid of the things that have been so, so destructive, I think we're tearing apart masculinity as a whole.
 

• I am like a very controversial figure on the internet, and I would actually rather be probably less famous? Like I wanna get more into sort of performance art stuff like this and the tech side of things. Grimes was always sort of more about performance art and, and more about how interfacing with technology than just like fun songs anyway. It's always sort of been like about whatever the limit of technology is and like what I can do with that. My identity isn't necessarily super tied to like Grimes as a musical artist. I think my identity is more tied to, like, whatever Grimes is in a performance art way. 

I'm interested in being less famous. I am interested in making more complicated art for like a smaller audience that is more interested in sort of more philosophically driven, more complicated art that is maybe less—has less pop appeal. Like, I just wanna do things that haven't been done before more than I wanna have a hit.

https://www.wired.com/story/have-a-nice-future-podcast-1

[ALGAYDO 31,343]

Masculinity has been “celebrated” throughout almost all of human history. 
 

It’s only recently that we, as a society, have been calling out toxic masculinity- not masculinity as a whole. 
 

idk what Musky has been feeding her, but she needs to get off of it asap. Not just for her own sake, but for her children and also all the young and impressionable fans that she had accumulated. 
 

she’s being a real fart lately. 

[hELXIG 42,595]

She speaks so intelligently about things she knows absolutely nothing about 

I still believe she's a contrarian. Just trying so hard to be different and go against the popular opinion

[Debithius 5,785]

She isn't really lying here. The internet like to say how they only call out toxic masculinity but as soon as you try to defend masculinity wether it is toxic or not you and the concept of masculinity gets torn to shreds. We are really going reverse on this whole issue huh? Let's be honest here, nobody cares about men or what happens to them.

[thisguyN 616]

1 hour ago, Helxig said:

She speaks so intelligently about things she knows absolutely nothing about 

I still believe she's a contrarian. Just trying so hard to be different and go against the popular opinion

She doesn’t even speak so intelligently. Her arguments are usually half-baked, don’t make sense even in the contexts provided, and are factually wrong many times. I cannot stand people who lecture others and make strong statements about stuff they don’t even understand. 

And it saddens me cuz her music is amazing 

[AVeryGagaHolyDick 23,373]

She’s such a dog honnestly

[nATAH 46,238]

1 hour ago, Helxig said:

I still believe she's a contrarian. Just trying so hard to be different and go against the popular opinion

honestly this

it's not as black and white as simply encouraging men to be chivalrous, there's a deep rooted issue with the male ego and their dangerous inability to handle rejection and generations of entitlement

men should be respectful to women (and vice versa) full stop, not just because society has suddenly decided to reward men on being baseline decent human beings

[hELXIG 42,595]

16 minutes ago, thisguyN said:

She doesn’t even speak so intelligently. Her arguments are usually half-baked, don’t make sense even in the contexts provided, and are factually wrong many times. I cannot stand people who lecture others and make strong statements about stuff they don’t even understand. 

And it saddens me cuz her music is amazing 

I guess what I meant to say is that she thinks she's such an intellectual and smarter than everyone else and there's a kind of ignorant arrogance in that. I hate that too.. so much. There's no point even arguin with those people because no matter how wrong they are, they're well practised in debating until the other person just gives up out of frustration, and then claiming they were right. It's maddening

I know   I still listen to some of her songs frequently. Bloody hell

[Meredith Grey 3,140]

I also want her to be less famous

[Earthling 3,688]

I think GGD needs to stop bashing and let this woman live. She’s expressing an opinion and concern for society. She’s not spreading hate or telling certain people they can’t exist. Not everything or everyone needs to fit neatly into political labels, boxes, or forms of expression. 

[RahrahWitch 6,985]

Okay now who is tearing down a man for being chivalrous? Nobody. 

This sounds like any other far right nut you find on the internet who hyper fixates on a miniscule extremist ideology and says there's a war against men when there isn't. 

[alsemanche 92,674]

Yes please be less famous and preferably disappear forever and save us the embarrassment of reading your shit takes on everything xoxo

[Ivy 12,089]

Testosterone is a crazy war drug? I don't really understand what she's saying with that 

[monstrosity 3,939]

3 hours ago, Helxig said:

She speaks so intelligently

 

(I get what you’re saying tho, I just found this funny)

[Naak Le Vaar 1,222]

Grimes is never gonna release good music again. She's just gonna flap her lips about Elon and release AI generated GarageBand quality music