crazygato 455 Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 Babylon the Great? As a fan of Gaga I love the religisosity of the Born This Way album which got me thinking of its biblical references. Ive been listening to it a lot recently and also been studying religious books at a bookstore near my place of work. In the book of revelations according to the Bible, Babylon is a woman mounted on top of a "wild beast with seven heads". She is a a "prostitute" who "sleeps with the kings of the world" and has dealing with merchants/ business men. This is apparent in the lyrics to GH where she describes the relationship as a total deal and plays submissive even though through that she gains control. Its almost a toxic relationship and gets wild towards the end of the song. It is indeed toxic because according to the Bible the "beast" who she is mounted on eventually attacks Babylon and kills her, eating her flesh and setting her on fire. The "beast" represents political powers and in the song the GH is sleeping with a powerful man in government. The song then suegues into "Judas ", a song about a toxic relationship. What do you think? The popular idea is that its about Marilyn Monroe and JFK but we know Gaga was raised Catholic and she is knowledgable about Biblical matters (Judas, BM, BJAF, GH, EC) and was clearly influenced by it. Discuss! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah X 5,249 Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 ........no it's just about a hooker that likes doing stuff for government officials. dont think too hard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 16,551 Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 Interesting theory! Given that Gaga has also visually referenced the Fritz Lang film Metropolis (which has a lot of explicit references to the ***** of Babylon) and also weaponizes her sexuality to advance her cause in the storyline of the BTWB, this reading definitely has some merit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 16,551 Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 27 minutes ago, Nedster said: ........no it's just about a hooker that likes doing stuff for government officials. dont think too hard Go back to sucking Kandy Muse's **** under the pier, sis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railing 2,366 Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 1 hour ago, crazygato said: What do you think? The popular idea is that its about Marilyn Monroe and JFK but we know Gaga was raised Catholic and she is knowledgable about Biblical matters (Judas, BM, BJAF, GH, EC) and was clearly influenced by it. Girl she literally says "put your hands on me, John F Kennedy" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Lovers 6,545 Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be Marilyn Monroe's reported affair with JFK Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimecia 6,025 Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 33 minutes ago, Railing said: Girl she literally says "put your hands on me, John F Kennedy" 31 minutes ago, Future Lovers said: I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be Marilyn Monroe's reported affair with JFK No Gaga song is ever about "only one thing" you guys. Time. It will not wait, no matter how hard you hold on... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshie S 5,872 Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 Yikes not the replies that don't have any understanding of Gaga's music I have to agree with you that she definitely has double, triple etc. meanings for her music. Interesting theory The melody that you choose can rescue you ♥ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 106,237 Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 It's actually about a hookah His fart felt like a kiss Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimotheeChalamet 4,827 Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 2 hours ago, Ultimecia said: No Gaga song is ever about "only one thing" you guys. Yes, a lot of them are Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimotheeChalamet 4,827 Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 I remember her saying Government Hooker was a statement about willing to do everything for her message to be heard or something like that, while referencing Marilyn Monroe and JFK. The fact that she played with words in Poker Face and gave abstract and historically wrong meanings in some ARTPOP song messed up a lot of expectations among fans, but not everything she writes has to be a religious double meaning or something really really deep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivy 11,691 Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 That's really interesting! I think it can have multiple or overlapping meaning and influences, like others said I think a lot of her songs usually do so I could definitely see this as a possibility Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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