Aspartame In Sugar Free & Diet Products Declared As Possible Carcinogen By WHO

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3 hours ago, Knife said:

This is not the news I wanted to wake up to as someone that regularly buys a 12 packs of Coke Zero. 

Stop drinking those

 

Not only are artificial sweeteners bad for u... But more and more experts believe they actually indirectly make weight gain worse due to multiple feedback loops and indirect effects

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3 hours ago, catsounds said:

I thought this was known already

I swear for a while the assertion was shamed as face book mom posts without scientific backup as a lot of stuff starts out that way...

 

But yeah for at least a few years I think more experts were on board and there's been a greater general consensus that it's really the case

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2 hours ago, Karl said:

And yet in the UK we have a sugar tax encouraging drinks and food companies to replace sugar with carcinogenic artificial ones to avoid the tax 

To my knowledge in the UK there are only three soft drinks that don't contain any sweetener, Coke, Pepsi and MTN Dew, every other brand even the full fat ones such as Fanta, Dr Pepper etc have half sugar half sweetener to comply with the sugar tax.

so is pepsi max safe to drink in the UK or should i be ditching it?

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28 minutes ago, NATAH said:

so is pepsi max safe to drink in the UK or should i be ditching it?

 

They are using aspartame as per ingredients shown on their website

https://pepsi.co.uk/products/pepsi-max

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4 hours ago, GypsyVida said:

We already knew it's worse for you than sugar, so this isn't surprising at all.

It's actually still better when compared to sugar.

Sugar still offers more problems when consumed by sedentary people, including tooth decay, damaged blood sugar control, arterial stiffening and weight gain, which will result in more damage to your cardiovascular system, organs and bones/joints. Think strokes, heart attacks, limb loss and general poor immune system. 

This is arguably much more harmful because it delivers multiple sources of proven damage than a potentially increased risk of cancer, which is inevitable for most humans and becoming increasingly treatable. 

People shouldn't put down the Diet Coke and pick up a regular Coke based on this, they should instead try to reduce their reliance on sweetened food/drink. 

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1 hour ago, Pineapple said:

It's actually still better when compared to sugar.

Sugar still offers more problems when consumed by sedentary people, including tooth decay, damaged blood sugar control, arterial stiffening and weight gain, which will result in more damage to your cardiovascular system, organs and bones/joints. Think strokes, heart attacks, limb loss and general poor immune system. 

This is arguably much more harmful because it delivers multiple sources of proven damage than a potentially increased risk of cancer, which is inevitable for most humans and becoming increasingly treatable. 

People shouldn't put down the Diet Coke and pick up a regular Coke based on this, they should instead try to reduce their reliance on sweetened food/drink. 

Exept ur ignoring the fact that artificial sweeteners indirectly are believed to largely contribute to this as well in indirect ways

 

At least sugar is a normal thing to consume that our body is able to process we just tend to consume too much.

 

Artificial sweeteners on the other hand are totally artificial and the way it fools ur taste buds and system into thinking its consuming carbs when it's not throws stuff off.

 

Insulin spikes are created when ur body thinks it's getting sugar and carbs. When it turns out to be fake and ur blood sugars drop u end up getting cravings which very often ppl end up satisfying with either treats that are easier to justify when you know your diet coke didn't have calories, or just eating bigger meals than you would have without realizing it. As such unless your really great at being disciplined with portion controls and not eating other treats, many end up eating the carbs and sugar anyway and plus the cancerous effects of the artificial sweeteners

 

Another issue that is gaining traction (tho it's newer findings and more studies need to be done to confirm this and understand it better) is that in time if u do this frequently, your bodies abilities to predict the carbs and calories coming in based on taste starts to get compromised because it starts to become very inconsistent and this may lead to issues with metabolism. Again tho, this idea is still a bit more controversial, but the first set of issues I listed above are a bit more established

 

It's hard to say 100% for sure which is worse and may depend on the person but I think it's clear artificial sweeteners have more issues and side effects than just increasing risk of cancer

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 seeing you all debate and pulling up your cute lil stats from your ~scientists~~~ while I chug my diet coke rn 

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And yet Trump drinks 12 Diet Cokes a day and is STILL ALIVE?!  @Morphine Prince

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5 hours ago, WheresMy911Alice said:

Sharing this with my bf who wanted to buy Sweet N Low a few weeks ago 

Sweet N Low doesn't contain aspartame. Your boyfriend remains unbothered.   

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5 hours ago, Magneto said:

just

drink

water

It's so odd how society has made this an alien concept.

People are always shocked when I ask for water when I'm visiting them 

"Water?? Are you sure?? We also have soda"

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1 hour ago, Economy said:

Exept ur ignoring the fact that artificial sweeteners indirectly are believed to largely contribute to this as well in indirect ways

 

At least sugar is a normal thing to consume that our body is able to process we just tend to consume too much.

 

Artificial sweeteners on the other hand are totally artificial and the way it fools ur taste buds and system into thinking its consuming carbs when it's not throws stuff off.

 

Insulin spikes are created when ur body thinks it's getting sugar and carbs. When it turns out to be fake and ur blood sugars drop u end up getting cravings which very often ppl end up satisfying with either treats that are easier to justify when you know your diet coke didn't have calories, or just eating bigger meals than you would have without realizing it. As such unless your really great at being disciplined with portion controls and not eating other treats, many end up eating the carbs and sugar anyway and plus the cancerous effects of the artificial sweeteners

 

Another issue that is gaining traction (tho it's newer findings and more studies need to be done to confirm this and understand it better) is that in time if u do this frequently, your bodies abilities to predict the carbs and calories coming in based on taste starts to get compromised because it starts to become very inconsistent and this may lead to issues with metabolism. Again tho, this idea is still a bit more controversial, but the first set of issues I listed above are a bit more established

 

It's hard to say 100% for sure which is worse and may depend on the person but I think it's clear artificial sweeteners have more issues and side effects than just increasing risk of cancer

I think this is a popular myth that artificial sweeteners spike insulin. For the majority of people, artificial sweeteners don't spike blood sugars or insulin levels. There's only a handful of sweetener options that can prompt a small insulin response but nothing compared to sugar.

There's some correlation/causation issues with trying to understand why artificial sweeteners are associated with cravings and weight gain. I think the problem is that they're more likely consumed by overweight people trying to lose weight. And most people at that point have been or are addicted to weight-gaining foods and have a poorer metabolic state. 

I get the other posters' point though, we should try ditch strongly sweet foods altogether. It's actually really easy once you spend a few weeks off them. Ironically, I now find vegetables can have a more detectable sweetness to them and even find some fruits too sickly. Plus, my dentist now loves me. Refined carbs and sugars have really screwed up my body and I'm glad they're gone.  

I find monkfruit can be a good natural, sugar-free sweetener for a treat every now and then. Every ingredient comes at a price so it's best to pick your moments I guess. 

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7 hours ago, Karl said:

And yet in the UK we have a sugar tax encouraging drinks and food companies to replace sugar with carcinogenic artificial ones to avoid the tax 

To my knowledge in the UK there are only three soft drinks that don't contain any sweetener, Coke, Pepsi and MTN Dew, every other brand even the full fat ones such as Fanta, Dr Pepper etc have half sugar half sweetener to comply with the sugar tax.

Oh you just explained a big mystery to me!

I'm French and have just moved in the UK recently. I am always careful to never consume any sweetener since we've known for a long time they are carcinogenic duh. Hence my surprise when I found our that nearly none of the drinks here are aspartame free. Even at McDonald's you almost only have diet options, which means sweeteners. Takes me forever whenever I have to buy a soft drink and go through all the ingredients only to find out every time there are sweeteners.

Seriously how did sth like that happened? Not to mention sweeteners always leave a terrible taste in your mouth.

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I mean that‘s a well known fact for years 

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1 hour ago, Fuffy said:

I think this is a popular myth that artificial sweeteners spike insulin. For the majority of people, artificial sweeteners don't spike blood sugars or insulin levels. There's only a handful of sweetener options that can prompt a small insulin response but nothing compared to sugar.

There's some correlation/causation issues with trying to understand why artificial sweeteners are associated with cravings and weight gain. I think the problem is that they're more likely consumed by overweight people trying to lose weight. And most people at that point have been or are addicted to weight-gaining foods and have a poorer metabolic state. 

I get the other posters' point though, we should try ditch strongly sweet foods altogether. It's actually really easy once you spend a few weeks off them. Ironically, I now find vegetables can have a more detectable sweetness to them and even find some fruits too sickly. Plus, my dentist now loves me. Refined carbs and sugars have really screwed up my body and I'm glad they're gone.  

I find monkfruit can be a good natural, sugar-free sweetener for a treat every now and then. Every ingredient comes at a price so it's best to pick your moments I guess. 

Why do u think it's a myth? I have not heard the medical community refute this meanwhile some studies suggest it indeed does get mistaken for real sugar

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7014832/

 

This is just the latest one I came across. It doesn't focus on diabetics. While it doesn't prove that non diabetics have the same reaction, the general workings should still be roughly the same

 

I've read others that were done on general population not just diabetics.

 

Even if it's not full blown proven, I don't think theres a grounds to claim it's a myth

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9 hours ago, Knife said:

This is not the news I wanted to wake up to as someone that regularly buys a 12 packs of Coke Zero. 

There's people that live past 90 that have smoked 20 cigarettes a day from the time it was advertised as healthy, life is a gamble