hieronymus 9,622 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 23 minutes ago, catsounds said: I think it was the last one she was apart of the video, obviously TEOG version she was apart of never got finished (i think) it was after she started insulting lm's on twitter. which like... they probably deserved it somehow, but does anyone remember YOU HAVE A SICKNESS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catnikko 13,549 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Hold My Ham said: it was after she started insulting lm's on twitter. which like... they probably deserved it somehow, but does anyone remember YOU HAVE A SICKNESS did that not start happening just after whatever happened on set though? uh ah Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaga2645 2,042 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 16 minutes ago, ImMatt said: If it were one or two dancers that left I could understand but it was TEN. Many were long-term too. I think it's gone beyond fans too - type Richy Jackson into Google News and it's all that comes up. As fans of Gaga and what she stands for, what are we supposed to do? Ignore it?? (P.S. I agree about the SA. That would have been investigated I'm sure. I'm talking about the other stuff) See this is the thing about misinformation lol… Multiple Dancers came out saying he’s hard to work with. Not SA. I believe Kevin was talking to a fan and they leaked a SS about about SA and Kevin said that HR was notified and the powers that be were “handling” the situation and “much love to gaga” BUT the Stan’s on twitter ran w SA because they want Richy fired. And the news covered it because of (guess what) the FANS on Twitter! Like I said, her fans will end up being her biggest downfall it is also important to note the drama with the dancers happened during the PANDEMIC. It is quite literally old news that was resurfaced on twitter because (understandably) NDA’s had been lifted and the dancers could discuss RIGHT at the start of the actual Ball. By that time investigations had to have already been conducted, they do not take multiple years to conduct Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LunaUniverse 2,882 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 I have a feeling Gaga feels quite insecure in detaching herself from relationship to professionalism in situations like this. Naturally she’s a loving and understanding person at heart and probably doesn’t want to confront anyone. That’s certainly a character trait that’s not indicative of being a bad person for having that trait, it just might be destructive if you want to have a stable social/working circle 1# Samoyed Stan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil R 1,084 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 25 minutes ago, Gaga2645 said: Multiple Dancers came out saying he’s verbally and emotionally abused them in a toxic workplace Fixed. No need to candy coat it by saying he's hard to work with Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comet 355 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Remember when every new song was an event and the physical expression of each song was so impactful? I wish she would branch out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImMatt 1,564 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Gaga2645 said: See this is the thing about misinformation lol… Multiple Dancers came out saying he’s hard to work with. Not SA. I believe Kevin was talking to a fan and they leaked a SS about about SA and Kevin said that HR was notified and the powers that be were “handling” the situation and “much love to gaga” BUT the Stan’s on twitter ran w SA because they want Richy fired. And the news covered it because of (guess what) the FANS on Twitter! Like I said, her fans will end up being her biggest downfall it is also important to note the drama with the dancers happened during the PANDEMIC. It is quite literally old news that was resurfaced on twitter because (understandably) NDA’s had been lifted and the dancers could discuss RIGHT at the start of the actual Ball. By that time investigations had to have already been conducted, they do not take multiple years to conduct Where did I mention SA?? The toxic environment, bullying and abusive behaviour (mentally abusive, not SA) was quoted directly by the dancers and thus reported by the media. That was the story, nothing else. That kind of story is getting reported by the media when a major pop star is involved regardless of whether fans kick up a fuss about his choreography or not I agree it all happened ages ago but this is the first indication he's still part of the haus post-TCB and therefore wasn't fired because of what went on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOT 2,589 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 The facts as I understand them are that several dancers stated on social media that Richy had been abusive to them, verbally and emotionally, and they made those statements shortly before the start of TCB. That timing was hardly designed to be helpful to Gaga, so it suggests to me that the issue had already been addressed in house and that Gaga had sided with Richy, which she was entitled to do, just as she would have been entitled to side with the dancers. People have made comparisons on here between Richy and Dr Luke, but Dr Luke has been accused in court of sexual abuse and other offences. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G U C C I 5,373 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 3 hours ago, AshIey said: What did Freddie do and how is he an enabler? If something happened involving him I must have missed it. Freddie didn’t do anything I just lumped in with people whose work is mid 90% of the time but yet remain completely attached to everything she does because of her loyalty to them. I’m sure Freddie is an excellent human being and I didn’t mean anything negative towards him on a personal level. Richy on the other hand seems like he’s shitty all the way around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonTurnItUp 7,046 Posted May 31, 2023 Author Share Posted May 31, 2023 I finally got a hit thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagasEnigma4 834 Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 26 minutes ago, G U C C I said: Freddie didn’t do anything I just lumped in with people whose work is mid 90% of the time but yet remain completely attached to everything she does because of her loyalty to them. I’m sure Freddie is an excellent human being and I didn’t mean anything negative towards him on a personal level. Richy on the other hand seems like he’s shitty all the way around. I have met Freddie and can say he is an amazingly kind person. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
misha4ever 1,166 Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 i think gaga is one of those people who get attached to their friends to the point of not realizing how bad they are for her/her business. one of my friends and colleague had a best friend (died years ago) who was extremely toxic and liked to use my friend. almost every day she called my friend for help to do her own job, she was a nasty person too, very egoistical and rude af. but to my friend she was a faithful, helpful person who always stood besides her in the good and bad times and helped her to get out of a very depressive time. our group of friends sometimes said a few things about how not good she was but to no avail, my friend was too blind to her bff's worst traits and was too faithful. idk if there's something richie could do to break that friendship that he hasn't done already. english is not my native language >.< Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controversiaga 9,107 Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 4 hours ago, RenegAde said: Not you comparing richy and doctor luke, one is a famous (almost legendary) producer who has been accused of raping several women and was in the middle of a very publicised legal battle with a very unsatisfactory outcome to many. The other is a too bit choreographer who's only claim to fame is working with Gaga. Offcourse the energy is going to be different. Go ahead and defend kim petras all you want to but bringing gaga into it by comparison is moot. Richie is also accused of SA. But it’s okay for Gaga to work with him and it’s not okay for Kim to work w dr luke ? Make it make sense Pronounced like “Balenciaga” . Emphasis on the “Ga” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controversiaga 9,107 Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 4 hours ago, NATAH said: actually i am, you're just finding any loophole to stan kim even mods have stated kim fans need to understand she's going to get backlash for continuing to choose to work with dr puke not to mention the dr luke and richy situation are incredibly different I know what mods have stated and the same can be said about our queen. SA is SA. Both Richie and dr Luke have been accused. You want to play the game of whose fire is bigger? Doesn’t make a difference in the end, a burn is a burn the people who want to claim they won’t support someone who supports someone who is an abuser but then pick and who who they will and won’t support are hypocrites. What I’m saying is very simple and actually doesn’t need to be argued further. Pronounced like “Balenciaga” . Emphasis on the “Ga” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack3257 630 Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 If it’s a new Vegas show I doubt it will have anything to do with Enigma. I feel like even Gaga hated being in that simulation after a while. I wouldn’t put it past Gaga to do album+residency instead of a tour. Do you think a new residency could be in the style we all predicted for The Chromatica Ball? Could it be a conversion of what we ended up getting for The Chromatica Ball into a theater show? Personally, I would love another Gaga show with a “conceptual narrative,” where there is an emotional or artistic journey without a direct storyline. This could even be Gaga’s version of an Eras Tour! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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