PartySick 144,831 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 Just now, River said: Let's sit in a circle and sing together everyone and I say hey hey hey hey heeeeeeeeeeeeeeey WHAT'S GOING ON we are the world, we are the problem Ah-ah-ah-ah-ah Ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh Ah-ah-ah-ah-ah Ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-heeheeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Eurovision, 2K25 The US has returned to British control and is now eligible to participate. We come in with this banger: But we get last place so we throw a dart at a map of the Earth and invade whatever country it lands on 🇺🇲🦅 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 5,776 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 11 minutes ago, Dennis said: Can they open the voting and then kick Joost out? I think they're gonna have to make a decision in the next couple of hours. Otherwise people will be requesting refunds no? Honestly they've left it far too long already at this point for it not to have major blow back on them. They kick him out - people will be out for blood given what may or may not be distorted info put out their about the behaviour of the israel delegation towards other acts. They keep him in - the other side of the debate will accuse them of bowing down to anti-semites etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not The Real Gaga 7,482 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 1 minute ago, PartySick said: Don't people do this all this time? Regardless of who they are or what the situation is? When communication isn't being effectively done, people will fill in the gaps with their own assumptions and then others with those same assumptions "confirm" them in echo chambers. That's just human nature Yeah, true. But still... the baseline is: the EBU won't take these measures without reason. Something bad must have happened, so you'd hope that people would take the possibility that he is at fault into account. (but apparently not) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis 8,391 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Bronco said: Honestly they've left it far too long already at this point for it not to have major blow back on them. They kick him out - people will be out for blood given what may or may not be distorted info put out their about the behaviour of the israel delegation towards other acts. They keep him in - the other side of the debate will accuse them of bowing down to anti-semites etc. I don't think they have to deal with that, because the TV Employee he allegedly assaulted is unaffiliated with Israel. She works for SVT (swedish broadcaster). Edited May 10 by Dennis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 104,884 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 5 minutes ago, PartySick said: Eurovision, 2K25 The US has returned to British control and is now eligible to participate. We come in with this banger: But we get last place so we throw a dart at a map of the Earth and invade whatever country it lands on 🇺🇲🦅 Alexa play Genocide Face and Just Bomb by Lady Americana I could play the moderator, I can ban you, die sis. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 144,831 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 6 minutes ago, Not The Real Gaga said: Yeah, true. But still... the baseline is: the EBU won't take these measures without reason. Something bad must have happened, so you'd hope that people would take the possibility that he is at fault into account. (but apparently not) Yeah, but this also goes for the people repeating the deal about him assaulting somebody or whatever they're saying happened 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 5,776 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 3 minutes ago, Dennis said: I don't think they have to deal with that, because the TV Employee he allegedly assaulted is unaffiliated with Israel. She works for SVT (swedish broadcaster). I mean which allegation do you believe atm? 1st it was that he'd had an argument 2nd was that an Israeli Journo had harrassed him and made disparraging comments about his parents 3rd was that he was going to make a public statement criticising the EBU/Israel 4th was that he refused to share the stage with Eden 5th is the one you've just shared And there's now screencaps going round of the Israeli Journo accused of harrasing him making comments being interpreted as a death threat due to saying "no anti-semite has the right to sing or breathe next to us" on their instagram stories in the last few hours. I don't know what's actually happened, what the truth is etc. But it's been multiple hours of silence by the EBU now, looking at twitter it is clear that the bot farms are out in full force - either that or Maga republicans secretly love Eurovision..... Thanks to social media, **** like this needs an immediate PR explanation - or you instantly cede control to the disinfo sphere and you can never really correct that. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis 8,391 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 1 minute ago, Bronco said: I mean which allegation do you believe atm? 1st it was that he'd had an argument 2nd was that an Israeli Journo had harrassed him and made disparraging comments about his parents 3rd was that he was going to make a public statement criticising the EBU/Israel 4th was that he refused to share the stage with Eden 5th is the one you've just shared And there's now screencaps going round of the Israeli Journo accused of harrasing him making comments being interpreted as a death threat due to saying "no anti-semite has the right to sing or breathe next to us" on their instagram stories in the last few hours. I don't know what's actually happened, what the truth is etc. But it's been multiple hours of silence by the EBU now, looking at twitter it is clear that the bot farms are out in full force - either that or Maga republicans secretly love Eurovision..... Thanks to social media, **** like this needs an immediate PR explanation - or you instantly cede control to the disinfo sphere and you can never really correct that. Well, I'm inclined to believe whatever bit of news we're getting from actual news sources in Sweden: https://www.aftonbladet.se/nojesbladet/melodifestivalen/a/MnRnOo/uppgifter-ebu-i-krismote-om-nederlandernas-joost-klein-anklagas https://www.svt.se/kultur/incident-utreds-kring-nederlandske-artisten-joost-klein It just seems some people on twitter want to involve Israel in everything, and facts/evidence don't matter anymore. And yeah I agree, it's unfair both to him, and the Israeli delegation to be potentially accused of things they have nothing to do with. The Israeli singer was booed strongly by the dutch fans today. Why? Thanks to twitter disinfo. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not The Real Gaga 7,482 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 Just now, Dennis said: Well, I'm inclined to believe whatever bit of news we're getting from actual news sources in Sweden: https://www.aftonbladet.se/nojesbladet/melodifestivalen/a/MnRnOo/uppgifter-ebu-i-krismote-om-nederlandernas-joost-klein-anklagas https://www.svt.se/kultur/incident-utreds-kring-nederlandske-artisten-joost-klein It just seems some people on twitter want to involve Israel in everything, and facts/evidence don't matter anymore. And yeah I agree, it's unfair both to him, and the Israeli delegation to be potentially accused of things they have nothing to do with. The Israeli singer was booed strongly by the dutch fans today. Why? Thanks to twitter disinfo. She has been booed during all her performances this week. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis 8,391 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 (edited) 1 minute ago, Not The Real Gaga said: She has been booed during all her performances this week. Yeah but today was def a LOT louder. I think even people who attended in person in this thread will tell you that. Or you can see the clips from twitter. Yesterday there were barely any boos. Edited May 10 by Dennis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 5,776 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 Just now, Dennis said: Well, I'm inclined to believe whatever bit of news we're getting from actual news sources in Sweden: https://www.aftonbladet.se/nojesbladet/melodifestivalen/a/MnRnOo/uppgifter-ebu-i-krismote-om-nederlandernas-joost-klein-anklagas https://www.svt.se/kultur/incident-utreds-kring-nederlandske-artisten-joost-klein It just seems some people on twitter want to involve Israel in everything, and facts/evidence don't matter anymore. And yeah I agree, it's unfair both to him, and the Israeli delegation to be potentially accused of things they have nothing to do with. The Israeli singer was booed strongly by the dutch fans today. Why? Thanks to twitter disinfo. I mean I don't trust any media source these days - there's no such thing as an unbiased source lol I've got no skin in the Joost fan game tbh, I want Croatia to win so everyone turning on Israel (further) & Joost being booted increases the chance I win my bet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
olive specter 1,166 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 (edited) not me reading page after page of this thread while having no interest in watching the thing lol if only the songs were as entertaining as the drama last time i liked an eurovision song was in 2003 with this bop Edited May 10 by olive specter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkgaga 2,775 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 I really think this Eurovision feels wrong. The whole pre-season, ths Israel situation, the online hate, and now the Joost situation… 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juanlittlem 41,554 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 30 minutes ago, Dennis said: Yeah but today was def a LOT louder. I think even people who attended in person in this thread will tell you that. Or you can see the clips from twitter. Yesterday there were barely any boos. There were barely any Israel fans tonight. The boos today were louder 'cause there werent that many people trying to cover them. Dejare de quererte cuando un pintor sordo pinte el sonido de un pétalo al caer en el suelo de cristal de un castillo que no existe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissMonster 28,789 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 2 hours ago, Dennis said: Yes, but what contributed to 40% of italy's vote going to her, if not sympathy vote? Political views of the GP. The GP doesn’t know about all the ESC drama and they had anti booing on live tv. So no sympathy votes, political votes. It has nothing to with people protesting the entry SwissMonster®️ - Creating controversy since 1999 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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