What’s with all the Bloodpop hate?

[misha4ever 1,166]

Well, as a person who became a fan with the Chromatica Ball tour (like many people, I liked several of her songs before, but not her entire work or persona before 2022), I do love the album and his work BUT I agree she should have variety of producers instead of him on 12 songs because they do tend to blend into each other and it's more obvious when you listen to the album from song 1 to the last. Maybe that's why a lot of you say Chromatica is her most cohesive album and you're right, it is, but that's not always a positive.

I added all her albums to a playlist in order of release and I have listened them entirely one after another; Chromatica is the only one that sometimes feels like it doesn't change. Is that a bad thing? No, I love it, but it means his knowledge is very limited, not bad, just limited IMO. Is not a surprise Replay is the best produced song and is not his (look at 911, my absolutely fave, but it feels like it had potential to be better and it SHOULD HAVE BEEN LONGER).

 

Does it means he's bad? No. Does it means people should insult him or harass him? No. Stop acting like animals.

 

LG should have different producers and not limiting herself to a single type of sound.

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18 hours ago, WheresMy911Alice said:

His production is basic. And Gaga's music pre-Joanne felt more complex.

Chromatica is by far Gaga’s best produced album. 

[Bling 31,197]

14 hours ago, RainingOnMe said:

This. Plus his gross ego. He's easily insulted by anyone that he deems to be competition. 

His trolling to hungry Gaga fans makes me dislike him more 

[Bling 31,197]

9 minutes ago, Admin said:

Chromatica is by far Gaga’s best produced album. 

Maybe when it comes to crispness, cleanliness. Not when it comes to depth or letting the instrumentation do it's thing, giving songs space to breathe. The Chromatica songs have always felt rushed.

[HeavyMetal Halcyon 1,515]

Besides the trolling, I personally LOVE Bloodpop. He's passionate about pop music and I really like his production style / sound. I love the direction Chromatica went, although I do wish it had more of a house style / had some house remixes, which I think they were GOING to do prior to covid.... I thought Stupid Love was great, and I love his work with Rina/Justin Beiber (the last good song by the later LOL). 

I think Bloodpop was more passionate about this project than Gaga and the only real reason we got a pop album was because of him... so I am VERY thankful. I like Balladga, but I would DIE for PopGa/DanceGa

 

[AntonTurnItUp 7,047]

Because the dark techno demo Boyz Noize produced for Free Woman became a generic tropical house song thanks to him, we will never forget 

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19 hours ago, Bowman said:

Can someone enlighten me? 

Basic twinks 

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19 hours ago, NATAH said:

LMs are a very hateful fanbase

don't worry, when LG7 isn't a sound they want they will be begging for bloodpop to come back

that's so true, LMs will always complain 

[Oriane 19,911]

7 hours ago, Bowman said:

With Born this Way I can agree with you, but ARTPOP what songs made you feel like that? 

I discovered so much listening to the Chromatica instrumentals, Alice with the breaths, ROM with the Ambience with people talking and much more I never knew some of that existed when I first listened 

I’m so surprised about people not appreciating 1000doves, it’s one of Gaga’s most beautiful instrumentals 

All of them, but I'd say Aura, Mary Jane Holland, Sexxx Dreams in priority. 

[Edonis 28,790]

2 hours ago, ELECTROHEART said:

Because the dark techno demo Boyz Noize produced for Free Woman became a generic tropical house song thanks to him, we will never forget 

LMAO in what way was the Free Woman demo dark techno??? I swear some of you guys just say stuff

[Leoooo 2,249]

Genuinely I have a really solid and positive concept of LM's, generally really awesome people (who all have impeccable taste) Purely because I dont ever classify anyone who would tweet that Bloodpop is a 'fat mess' as somebody who is truly a LM. Yeah, they might quite literally adore Gaga's music and some iconic moments, but unless you subscribe, even slightly, to the whole culture of kindness thing, you could not possibly be a real Gaga fan.

So in my eyes, LM dont and would not ever bully Bloodpop (even if they do have grumps about a few things) A bunch of very sad and desperate losers on the internet do, that happen to enjoy Gagas music

[Tyler1992 2,160]

BLOODPOP, Mark Ronson, DJ White Shadow have all received unfair hate. 

I think scapegoating the producers and pinning the blame on the albums not being the up to expectations is easier than to blame Gaga. 

Also, any producer who’ve worked 

Producers execute Gagas vision, but the blame for being either to polished, not polished enough, under produced, over produced goes to them.

 

[rasclautmangos 2,743]

His production on Chromatica was fine, but I feel like she needs to move on from him for future projects.  I don't find his production to be particularly memorable or cutting edge. 

[TortureMeOnReplay 5,830]

On 5/9/2023 at 6:19 PM, GovernmentHookah said:

He stripped down the production for Chromatica and played it safe which goes against the grain for anything Gaga produced prior to Joanne. 

I don't see this at all. Most of Chromatica is not stripped back at all. I feel like because it doesn't rely as heavily on bass and synth people view it as stripped back. 

On 5/9/2023 at 7:32 PM, Dayman said:

There’s a lot of reasons.

Many don’t like that he likes to troll fans and then also gets frustrated with fans and starts blocking them when they take the bait. 
 

Some don’t like his production work and feel it is overall weak and uninspired. Very by the book radio friendly pop.

There’s things like how in the pre Chromatica era we found out Bloodpop was tweeting from Gagas account well after the fact - I believe it was actually Hana that revealed that during a livestream. So like, the period of the “what’s Fortnite” “I don’t remember ARTPOP” and all those weird meme tweets are potentially just him tweeting from Gagas account to **** with everyone. Kinda weird but it’s whatever if Gaga allowed it.

 

It is a bit odd how Gaga had a huge number of collaborators on Chromatica production wise but in the end it pretty much ended up just being mostly Bloodpop and Burns [except Replay which is just Burns almost didn’t make the album]. If you look at production credits on Gagas past albums they were much more collaborative and varied. Which before someone says “he was the executive producer that’s what he does” that’s not the role of executive producer - that title is one that entails more of a logistics and organizational role than the actual musical production of an individual track. Case and point DJWS is executive producer on ARTPOP but not credit on every song’s production credit. This coupled with Dawn of Chromatica and it’s oddly public creation and organization from Bloodpop really painted the album and era in a light that made it seem more like it was Bloodpops album and remix album than even Gagas. 

I personally mainly have red flags about him based off the stories Gaga told about him telling her that the music she was working on wasn’t good and sound like her and it made her cry and change direction. Or that she wrote more of Chromatica as sad ballads and was pushed to make them dance songs. These are not inherently bad at surface level, but with everything else even in minor context it gives me an icky feeling. I don’t feel like he’s some horrid monster or anything. But the vibe I get is one that perhaps he’s a bit too self serving and maybe a touch narcissistic- which to be fair if you work in the music industry you have to be in some way if you’re going to get anywhere.

It was Burns that really was inspired by the sad ballads and started to transform them into dance songs. Gaga chooses her producers, and if she wasn't open to moving her songs into the direction that ended up being Chromatica, she never would have worked with him on those songs and chosen a different producer. It'd be hard to say that Interscope pushed Bloodpop onto her when her most successful song in the past decade isn't even a "real" pop song. I don't think it was necessarily a bad thing that Bloodpop was earnest with her about her creative decisions at the time, it's something that friends can do. In all of the interviews she mentions him, she always also mentions that he saved her life and that he tried hard in numerous ways to cheer her up. Gaga might have been down or vulnerable at some point (if that's what one chooses to believe), but at the end of the day Gaga pulled through and at some point she would have pulled the plug on him if she felt like he was taking advantage of her or just being narcissistic. DoC wouldn't have happened and she wouldn't have promoted him during the press tour. In the end I feel like he just wanted to be genuine, and she trusted him to execute a vision she herself could not muster up the strength to spearhead. I think she wanted to create an intimate work of art with Bloodpop and his people, and that's why the only real outsider in this circle is Ariana. 

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On 5/9/2023 at 6:03 PM, Maxine Puth said:

I think he’s a great artist on his solo projects, but something about him working with Gaga is lackluster idk. Usually Gaga brings out the best in producers but it can’t be said with BloodPop to me. All I’m saying is that my two favorite songs on both Joanne (JAD) and Chromatica (Replay) weren’t produced by him, so that’s saying something. And that’s not entirely his fault I know, because at the end of the day he does what Gaga approves of. 

Yeah it’s weird. The productions are just largely unmemorable tbh no need to flay him for it but for some reason they’re just kinda there imo. Like for a house album inspired by that playlist we saw, I’m a little shocked by the output said inspo yielded (outside of Replay and Alice). I guess knowing Gaga had to be dragged into the studio was probably a part of it? But it feels like the songs were scrubbed up a little too much