Guest Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 I'm interested to know what albums you have felt a disconnect with over the years after its release, or what album you feel has aged the poorest out of her releases. Are there any albums you simply do not listen to anymore due to that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsches 17,321 Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 The concept of aging here on GGD is absolute nonsense. Of course, a song that was released in 2008 sounds like 2008, a song released in 1988 sounds like the eighties. Why is that a bad thing? A song is a reflection of the state of the art at that time. Girls just wanna have fun is the epitome of 80s pop music but it’s one of the most important songs in recent musical history. It is actually rare that a song sounds absolutely timeless and it’s not even necessary for it to be timeless to be good. Even Running Up That Hill clearly sounds like an 80s song and people love it to this day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonBaetens 6,889 Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 I have to say... ARTPOP. I love that album for what it is, but I find myself listening to it the least out of her entire catalogue. It's verrrry loud and intense and doesn't always mix well with the things I listen to today. when you're lonely, I'll be lonely too / https://www.last.fm/user/SimonBaetens Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonBaetens 6,889 Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 Just now, tomsches said: The concept of aging here on GGD is absolute nonsense. Of course, a song that was released in 2008 sounds like 2008, a song released in 1988 sounds like the eighties. Why is that a bad thing? A song is a reflection of the state of the art at that time. Girls just wanna have fun is the epitome of 80s pop music but it’s one of the most important songs in recent musical history. I disagree. I listened to Björk's Homogenic again yesterday, which was released in 1997 and sounds super fresh and daring to this day. Music can definitely age well or not. The whole dubstep/drum 'n bass sound for example which was very popular ten years ago aged like milk imo, while older music like RnB still gets everyone at parties. And it's not based on just nostalgia, it's sound as well. when you're lonely, I'll be lonely too / https://www.last.fm/user/SimonBaetens Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsches 17,321 Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 1 minute ago, SimonBaetens said: I disagree. I listened to Björk's Homogenic again yesterday, which was released in 1997 and sounds super fresh and daring to this day. Music can definitely age well or not. The whole dubstep/drum 'n bass sound for example which was very popular ten years ago aged like milk imo, while older music like RnB still gets everyone at parties. And it's not based on just nostalgia, it's sound as well. I know. I didn’t say otherwise, my point is a song is not bad just because it sounds like a specific time period and I feel like aging is very negatively connoted here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 146,606 Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, tomsches said: I know. I didn’t say otherwise, my point is a song is not bad just because it sounds like a specific time period and I feel like aging is very negatively connoted here. Well, yeah, when a song "ages" it means it no longer sounds fresh. What you described above would be a song that became a classic. Like, Bad Romance or Just Dance. They both sound like the late 00s but they're classics so they haven't aged a day. Meanwhile, imo, some of the songs on Chromatica, despite only being a few years old, have aged so poorly It's also a sign of whether an album helped define a period in music (TF and TFM), separated itself from what was "in" at the time (BTW and Joanne), or hopped onto trends that didn't age well (ARTPOP and Chromatica). Doesn't make the music bad though! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 14 minutes ago, tomsches said: The concept of aging here on GGD is absolute nonsense. Of course, a song that was released in 2008 sounds like 2008, a song released in 1988 sounds like the eighties. Why is that a bad thing? A song is a reflection of the state of the art at that time. Girls just wanna have fun is the epitome of 80s pop music but it’s one of the most important songs in recent musical history. It is actually rare that a song sounds absolutely timeless and it’s not even necessary for it to be timeless to be good. Even Running Up That Hill clearly sounds like an 80s song and people love it to this day. This is not what "aging poorly" refers to. That's a dated song, which is different. Aging poorly means over the years, the song or album has not held up and has fell from previous graces. A song can be dated and have a sound resonate to a specific moment and age beautifully. This thread is not about what album is dated in sound. It's about which album, if any, has not stood the test of time and has fell off your radar / gone ignored / etc. For some, a dated song, however, can be a reason it aged poorly. But the two are not synonyms. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsches 17,321 Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, Agunimon said: This is not what "aging poorly" refers to. That's a dated song, which is different. Aging poorly means over the years, the song or album has not held up and has fell from previous graces. A song can be dated and have a sound resonate to a specific moment and age beautifully. This thread is not about what album is dated in sound. It's about which album, if any, has not stood the test of time and has fell off your radar / gone ignored / etc. For some, a dated song, however, can be a reason it aged poorly. But the two are not synonyms. Oh! Ok well that makes sense to me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 106,273 Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 5 minutes ago, PartySick said: Meanwhile, imo, some of the songs on Chromatica, despite only being a few years old, have aged so poorly Joanne aged like an expired milk the day it was released His fart felt like a kiss Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 146,606 Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 Just now, River said: Joanne aged like an expired milk the day it was released This is why we aren't friends Joanne still sounds fresh to me A true classic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 106,273 Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 Just now, PartySick said: This is why we aren't friends Joanne still sounds fresh to me A true classic you were the only friend I had left, goodbye His fart felt like a kiss Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 146,606 Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 Just now, River said: you were the only friend I had left, goodbye Lemme send you more pics and videos of the lizards I have around my house to make up for the Joanne slander Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAGASEXUAL 3,492 Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 Joanne was already bad when it was first released so I chose ARTPOP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAGASEXUAL 3,492 Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, River said: Joanne aged like an expired milk the day it was released This is so true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 106,273 Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 Just now, PartySick said: Lemme send you more pics and videos of the lizards I have around my house to make up for the Joanne slander His fart felt like a kiss Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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