Jameela Jamil slams feminists who attended the Met Gala

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27 minutes ago, Naak Le Vaar said:

So why did Ana decide celebrate him? Why couldn't she have chosen another theme? 

cus she's stupid

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1 hour ago, QueenMortuana said:

I think it was more about the inconsistencies in liberal politics and the division that it can cause, not necessarily this specific event causing a loss for liberals in the next election.

Idk I think she has some personal feelings about this considering people have tried to cancel her before. Which is odd because from a liberal point of view, we know that canceling doesn’t really exist. She obviously knows that too (she’s still working lol) so the “last night we relinquished our right to be taken at all seriously” is eyeroll to me. Moderate voters don’t take celebrities opinions on politics seriously to begin with. They aren’t paying attention to who is being canceled and for what reason. It just seems that she’s making this a lot more important than it is, from a voting perspective. 
 

It’s also assuming because this was a primarily entertainment focused event that everyone invited will subscribe to the same liberal politics, but I think she’s forgetting this has a fashion industry focus. They are still going to hold him in high esteem for his work alone because it’s still relevant in their world.  

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She’s right 

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Not sure how I feel about this... some of his quotes and opinions were problematic, but at the same time the MET gala was a celebration of his work, not his opinions and views about the society. Is it possible to separate the artist from their art? We celebrate thousands of artists throughout history who probably had horrifying views and opinions.

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Not sure where Adele was during this, but I'm sure she'd love to speak of the time he called her fat.

https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/fashion-blog/2012/feb/08/karl-lagerfeld-adele

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Wait wait wait… y’all don’t know about HER?

yooo let me enlighten you on how crazy this b is, brb getting receipts

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She is a nut case and shouldn’t be given time or attention that she is desperately craving:

https://www.instagram.com/s/aGlnaGxpZ2h0OjE4MDkzODgzODY0MDgzNjAz?story_media_id=2202800871422944895&igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
 

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4 hours ago, InTheCloset said:

Whats all this about Karl Lagerfeld?

I always liked him. Is this all true? 

Oh, he's awful. Look it up. It's crazy to me how someone so rich and privileged lived in a bubble and made such horrid comments. 

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1 hour ago, Charmz said:

She is a nut case and shouldn’t be given time or attention that she is desperately craving:

https://www.instagram.com/s/aGlnaGxpZ2h0OjE4MDkzODgzODY0MDgzNjAz?story_media_id=2202800871422944895&igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
 

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What does any of this have to do with what she said tho? 

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1 hour ago, Charmz said:

She is a nut case and shouldn’t be given time or attention that she is desperately craving:

https://www.instagram.com/s/aGlnaGxpZ2h0OjE4MDkzODgzODY0MDgzNjAz?story_media_id=2202800871422944895&igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
 

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idk ur kinda more insane for postin this

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2 hours ago, HIM820 said:

Idk I think she has some personal feelings about this considering people have tried to cancel her before. Which is odd because from a liberal point of view, we know that canceling doesn’t really exist. She obviously knows that too (she’s still working lol) so the “last night we relinquished our right to be taken at all seriously” is eyeroll to me. Moderate voters don’t take celebrities opinions on politics seriously to begin with. They aren’t paying attention to who is being canceled and for what reason. It just seems that she’s making this a lot more important than it is, from a voting perspective. 
 

It’s also assuming because this was a primarily entertainment focused event that everyone invited will subscribe to the same liberal politics, but I think she’s forgetting this has a fashion industry focus. They are still going to hold him in high esteem for his work alone because it’s still relevant in their world.  

I really understand your logic but I think Jameela has a point on the disconnect.

I'm a moderate/centrist voter (boo – I know) and I do think celebrity culture has evolved into something very different from what it used to be, mostly due to cancel culture.

Celebrities have fallen into this echo chamber where they need to comply by cultural/social guard rails to stay relevant and keep their career. The problem is that deep down, you can see a lot of them don't actually care about the issues they're talking about, which is why celebrities seem to be falling from grace at a rapid pace because their views/attitudes they're trying to have aren't innate to them. That's not to say they're ultra conservative people, more just that we set our expectations of each other too high and our tolerance too low.

This is where we see inconsistencies pop up, like Jameela mentioned.

For the average voter, it can be a hard pill to swallow when celebrities encourage you vote liberal. For example, many of them champion environmental issues, but will go on world tours in private jets, wear countless clothes and promote tons of consumable products. That's where the disconnect between liberals and voters happen.  

All of this is important because celebrity culture is so visible and because most people don't really vote by policy but by cultural/emotional connections to parties/politicians. It also makes it easier for conservatives because they can attack these inconsistencies and be more upfront about what they think and do, which makes swing voters feel they're more reliable because they "do what they say". 

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2 hours ago, secfelix said:

Not sure where Adele was during this, but I'm sure she'd love to speak of the time he called her fat.

https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/fashion-blog/2012/feb/08/karl-lagerfeld-adele

And then his apology was that he meant to say that about Lana Del Rey. 

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1 hour ago, Fuffy said:

I really understand your logic but I think Jameela has a point on the disconnect.

I'm a moderate/centrist voter (boo – I know) and I do think celebrity culture has evolved into something very different from what it used to be, mostly due to cancel culture.

Celebrities have fallen into this echo chamber where they need to comply by cultural/social guard rails to stay relevant and keep their career. The problem is that deep down, you can see a lot of them don't actually care about the issues they're talking about, which is why celebrities seem to be falling from grace at a rapid pace because their views/attitudes they're trying to have aren't innate to them. That's not to say they're ultra conservative people, more just that we set our expectations of each other too high and our tolerance too low.

This is where we see inconsistencies pop up, like Jameela mentioned.

For the average voter, it can be a hard pill to swallow when celebrities encourage you vote liberal. For example, many of them champion environmental issues, but will go on world tours in private jets, wear countless clothes and promote tons of consumable products. That's where the disconnect between liberals and voters happen.  

All of this is important because celebrity culture is so visible and because most people don't really vote by policy but by cultural/emotional connections to parties/politicians. It also makes it easier for conservatives because they can attack these inconsistencies and be more upfront about what they think and do, which makes swing voters feel they're more reliable because they "do what they say". 

I think we see celebrity influence on the current political landscape (good or bad) very differently. You do give good examples of celebrity hypocrisy though. I just disagree that the met gala, or its theme, is an impactful enough event to focus on to get this point across. The environment is an issue lots of people across the country will understand. Most people won’t even know who Karl Lagerfeld is. The people who do probably know he was horrible by now, but he’s dead. He made a form of art so now that’s going to live on in all sorts of ways, like exhibits. To shame celebs and some of his friends for attending and connecting that to liberal values and voters is just odd to me. 

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23 minutes ago, HIM820 said:

I think we see celebrity influence on the current political landscape (good or bad) very differently. You do give good examples of celebrity hypocrisy though. I just disagree that the met gala, or its theme, is an impactful enough event to focus on to get this point across. The environment is an issue lots of people across the country will understand. Most people won’t even know who Karl Lagerfeld is. The people who do probably know he was horrible by now, but he’s dead. He made a form of art so now that’s going to live on in all sorts of ways, like exhibits. To shame celebs and some of his friends for attending and connecting that to liberal values and voters is just odd to me. 

Yeah I agree with you on the significance of this particular event, it's more niche and Karl Lagerfeld is only passively known by the GP. 

I think the real significance this story has is how people choose to read into it. Comments like Jameela's can spark the controversy and that's where things can snowball into criticism at the celebrities. But you're right, this isn't as high profile or as hard hitting as other events with more relevant context. 

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she actually spilled with this one.