Marry The Night: what happened?

[gabeoz 7,915]

8 hours ago, Arcanum said:

I remember playing FarmVille like crazy to unlock the song before release.

Oh those GagaVille days...

 

Omg the Yoville promo items too with the crystal car  I was LIVING for it. The way you could unlock song snippets from the album was so good 

[warhol killer 8,580]

Marry The Night as a single after Born This Way could have been 2 SMASH hits. Iconic ones too, both represent the sound of the album + a different sound from whatever was released back then. Imagine the video for that though, I feel like it wouldn't be as autobiographical.

[warhol killer 8,580]

18 hours ago, River said:

The song, especially the last minute of it, gives me a serious headache, too many things are going on there

That's like the best part imo. From the quiet bells in the intro to the loud breakdown in the end, such a different sound. 

[AnglerfishbraBENUS 5,652]

11 hours ago, Maltese Falcon said:

The video is literally the best one shes ever put out 

It should've been the lead single. IMO its stronger than BTW.

i don’t see it, but who knows. 

[Bradley 57,717]

Even as a hardcore fan, I found the production way too loud and there's this distorted effect in the chorus (you also hear it in Americano, Highway Unicorn, basically all the tracks produced by Fernando Garibay).

[Guest]

It’s one of my favourite Gaga songs to this day, the church bells at the beginning, the electro synth beat and dramatic outro, it’s Gaga perfection and no one else could sing that song. It’s why I’m so homophobic to this day, we let her flop 

[lolitamuse 277]

I personally don't think Marry The Night was a good single in any context - Born This Way as a whole suffered from 'too much' syndrome. Gaga was too exposed in the media. The album was too self-indulgent in its own success and message (let's be honest, Gaga thought that the album would be a success solely on her level of fame at the time - which, imo, was what caused the subsequent downfall and her spiral with AP). The entire album was far overproduced and lacked the polish needed to actually create radio hits that have any sort of longevity (the way TFM did). 

[HausOfAntonio 7,995]

She was overexposed and Judas controversy was way too huge. I also think BTW was around when she lost her “cool” factor and isolated a large part of the GP. I remember very vividly being a Gaga stan at school and people starting to associate her with the LGBT+ community too much. As important as that was politically and socially, it negatively impacted her commercial success imo. 
 

All of that side though lets be honest - its an iconic song, one of her best, but unless it had been the lead and benefitted off of the immense hype, it just doesn’t scream late-album hit… its too long, starts off without a beat, not as catchy as her previous hits, weird lyrics the GP can’t relate with unless they try to understand them… and the video being like 14 minutes long didn’t help either. 

[GH333 48]

I’m probably echoing the sentiments of some of the fanbase but I think the single choices for born this way were a lost opportunity. I had become obsessed after the fame monster era (I had also seen her live at the monster ball) and couldn’t wait to hear her new album. I was following every single move leading up to the album. Born This Way is a staple and unquestionable. I personally loved Judas but I think the choices after that showed that her team had lost confidence in their plan for the album. It slowed momentum in a weird way. The Edge of Glory was great but rushed (which was felt). You and I is a good song but had been heard for a long time before it’s official release. Marry The Night reflected everyone’s enthusiasm to what came before it. Some of my favourite Gaga songs of all time are Government Hooker and Schiebe. They still hit hard when I listen to them. At the time of the Mugler fashion show all I can remember thinking was that these were definitely going to be singles at some point. I’m still shocked to this day that they were never showcased. The VMA promo video with Government Hooker and Heavy Metal Lover (which I live for) which then led to the Joe Calderone You and I performance is an example of how indecisive her team had become during the albums promotion. 

[Ziggy 10,803]

On 4/24/2023 at 10:52 AM, Bradley said:

Even as a hardcore fan, I found the production way too loud and there's this distorted effect in the chorus (you also hear it in Americano, Highway Unicorn, basically all the tracks produced by Fernando Garibay).

Yeah bc the mic they used wasn’t quality enough for Gaga’s voice. She basically overpowered them so to cover up the sounds as best they could, garibay used this filter but it could only do so much. As it is, they could have redone the vocals in a real studio, but gaga liked the texture it added. I agree, but yeah it does make the chorus less commercial

[crackpoppodcast 1,497]

Yeah if you were a marketer/strategist and you played every song for a group of GP listeners, MTN would not be a stand out from the album. It’s a brilliant song, just not one that would be successful on radio at its time of release. I feel this way about Sheisse too.

[Bradley 57,717]

2 hours ago, Ziggy said:

Yeah bc the mic they used wasn’t quality enough for Gaga’s voice. She basically overpowered them so to cover up the sounds as best they could, garibay used this filter but it could only do so much. As it is, they could have redone the vocals in a real studio, but gaga liked the texture it added. I agree, but yeah it does make the chorus less commercial

It's honestly surprising how one of the biggest popstars on the planet couldn't get a quality mic.

[Walk Fashion Birdy 50]

In my country majority started to dislike her after releasing Judas. She just bounced back here bec. of Million Reasons and Shallow etc.

[Ziggy 10,803]

6 hours ago, Bradley said:

It's honestly surprising how one of the biggest popstars on the planet couldn't get a quality mic.

She could, but she was touring  the thing is they had to kinda throw together a studio in the bus and idk if you've ever seen the inside of a tour bus but those mfers are SMALL. Most mic set ups the girls use in studios take up quite a bit of space. Hell, some one BTW's vocal takes are actually laptop ones, if I remember correctly lmao Most studio mic rentals also happen around studio set ups not being in a bus. As in, their set ups require a bit more than plugging them into a laptop and running with it. So I'm sure the mic they had was the best they could do with, but with a voice like Gaga's, you're kinda out of luck lolol Garibay said actually Marry the Night in particular was the hardest vocally to produce bc of this and the power she puts behind the upper notes in the chorus. Though imo you can hear it in the lower notes of highway unicorn also. The "run run with her top down baby she flies" has a little bit of a gravely distortion to it im assuming, again, because of the power she was putting on the notes. She sang HARD on BTW. Tbh im surprised more reviews didnt slam her for the audio quality.

 

The fact that she was pushing the mic on the chorus of scheisse is telling of the problems they had lmao

[crazygato 458]

9 hours ago, crackpoppodcast said:

Yeah if you were a marketer/strategist and you played every song for a group of GP listeners, MTN would not be a stand out from the album. It’s a brilliant song, just not one that would be successful on radio at its time of release. I feel this way about Sheisse too.

Nah, dont agree. Her team kept pushing it A LOT and obviously had faith in it but were so dumb releasing it as a 6 th single! It was the first track on the album and was a highlight for many. But releasing Judas and You and I, the riskiest songs due to one being hyper/weird and the other a country rock ballad, the gp just didnt have the patience  and just moved on. BTW, MTN, & TEOG were the safest bets and they blew it.